Proposed rule(ODIs and One Dayers); ` "Individual runs scored below SR of 85 shall be reset to ZERO. For example, individual score of 84 runs in 100 balls will be written as zero in the score card"
BCCI can enforce it immediately in domestic One Dayers in order to screen out undesirable elements. Fair and honest, no politics.
It is no-brainer to figure out multitudes of benefits and loads of fun for millions of fans, cricket boards, players, coaches, team selectors, media, etc.
Sourav Ganguly - 2001-2005 Test average 34.08 against all Test playing nations except B'desh and 2001-05 ODI average 32.40 against all nations except Kenya but including one innings against UAE of 56. As an Indian I want my team to at the very least strive the best in the world consistently, at most be the best in the world consistently. I don't care about individuals and nor do I have a favourite player, I just want the team to win and that's it. Any player with the above statistics for 4 years running does not deserve to be in any international team striving to be the best - he might have been a great player before 2000 but 4 years is too long a time to give anyone, great player or not. It disgusts me how the media at the time potrayed this simple scenario as a direct clash of personalities: Chappell vs Ganguly. There was no controversy: a good player in the past was horribly out of form and no longer good enough to hold a place in the team. The common sense solution: drop him and get someone else in (preferably younger) and groom him. The problem with us Indians is we are very individualistic, meaning in situations such as these we don't care that the above stats are clearly not good enough for an intl cricketer and just want this player in the team because he is a glamour boy of sorts. Hence selectors are extremely reluctant to go against public drop this 'star'. Chappell was the only one with the guts to announce these facts and for that he should be commended.
RE:Problem with Indians
by Supratik on Oct 03, 2007 08:34 AM
Instead we are inclined to view Chappell as some sort of 'gora' schoolmaster hell bent on destroying Indian Cricket. What he was trying to do was simple: build a winning team, and one of the major keys to that is having a consistent, ruthless but fair selection policy. Keeping a player averaging 35 in 4 years and yet not giving other youngsters even a full series is neither of the above and yet this has been the pattern of our selection system for years and years. It has stopped India from becoming a champion team. I'm not saying drop the guy after week, but drop him after 4 years certainly if he's not performing well. Chappell's courage in bringing some stability into selection by taking tough decisions such as showing Ganguly the door should be commended, not vilified. And so after barely one year afterwards we were prepared to discard the likes of Raina and Sreesanth for the World Cup 2007. At that stage of Raina's career his statistics were very similar to what Tendulkar's was on the same stage, and we dropped him. Yet there was all that controvery after a Ganguly was dropped after averaging 35 over 4 years? Does no-one see what's wrong with that scenario?? India could do much worse than take what at least some of what Chappell was preaching on board, even after he has left the scene.
RE:Problem with Indians
by Cool Chap on Oct 03, 2007 10:39 AM
Stop supporting Greg my dear....you still did not get independence from Gora thinking...
Greg does not like strong invididuals like Ganguly.
Can u tell me what his pampered youngsters like Raina and Kaif did..? what are their statistics..?
he clearly made use of people in BCCI to throw Ganguly out....above all he wanted to create this seniors juniors divide in the team. Except that he was not worth much
Also do not forget, this nonsense talking gora has not been picked up by his own Australia...
RE:Problem with Indians
by Supratik on Oct 03, 2007 11:04 AM
Greg does not like strong invididuals like Ganguly. Whether he "likes" or "dislikes" Ganguly is hardly the issue. Fact of the matter is nobody who has Ganguly's stats in the period mentioned deserves to be in the team. If this was an Australian player he would be dropped after two years instead of the four years Ganguly lasted.
Can u tell me what his pampered youngsters like Raina and Kaif did..? what are their statistics..? I never mentioned Kaif. Raina ODI average 26.60. Inferior to Ganguly yes, but not by much. And don't forget, we're talking about above 30 vs 19yo, over 200 matches vs 36 matches, over 5 years experience vs less than a year. Raina deserved a much longer run than he got.
he clearly made use of people in BCCI to throw Ganguly out.... If Ganguly was scoring the kind of runs I would expect from someone of his experience do you think Greg Chappell would've had a case for throwing him out?
above all he wanted to create this seniors juniors divide in the team. Except that he was not worth much That doesn't even make sense. I suggest you take an English writing course.
RE:Problem with Indians
by Supratik on Oct 03, 2007 11:19 AM
This is 2007 buddy. By your thought process why don't I check Gavaskar's record between 1971-1984 and bring him back into the Test team??
RE:RE:Problem with Indians
by Anirudh on Oct 03, 2007 05:44 PM
Supratik, Can you give me the names of all batsmen who averages above 35 in Test/ODI during the same period? I believe 35 plus in international matches is certainly not bad if not too great. Remember that we have only 3 batsmen above 50 test average (gavaskar, sachin, rahul) with min of 50 plus matches. Even the likes of Vengsarkar, Manjerakar, Amarnath, Srikanth, etc all have low 40 career average. And in one day, even sehwag averages below 32 in his career. So, don't think 35 is a poor performance in international cricket. And post return, his average is amazing and consistent. I want to see the team win instead of individuals setting records, but I still think people are very critical about ganguly and sometimes with sachin even when he fails for once.
RE:Problem with Indians
by Starwar on Oct 04, 2007 09:25 AM
Supratik , Stop talking nonsense about the best left-handed batsman India ever produced with over 15000 runs in ODI and tests.
About Chappell..Just answer me one question...why does Team Australia not avail of Chappell's services as their full-time coach in last ten years...because Australia realized long back that Greg is full of theories as a coach but delivers a big ZERO because of his big EGO!
You appear well-educated but are actually a moron !
RE:RE:Problem with Indians
by Supratik on Oct 03, 2007 11:09 AM
Also do not forget, this nonsense talking gora has not been picked up by his own Australia... Contrary to what most people think Australia started to become a very good team not under Mark Taylor or Steve Waugh but under Allan Border in the late 1980s. And guess who the Chairman of Selectors at that time was - you guessed it! Mr Gregory Stephen Chappell. Make no mistake - this guy knows how to build not only good teams, but champion teams.
What credibility does Chappell have ...He was hired by team india for the 2007 world cup... This self styled GURU then did so many experiments with support from Dravid...NET RESULT was ended up delivering a humiliating first round loss in World Cup and ICC cup...
Chappell cannot even get a major coaching job in Australia...still some dumb people in India want to suck up to the Aussie bigmouth!
RE:What credibility does Chappell have ...
by Tim on Oct 03, 2007 09:31 AM
OK Agreed that his experiments did not bear fruit, but he did not go to the field and play. The so called superstars, God of Indian Cricket went to the field and got massacred by Bangladesh.
You are not saying that his experiments made our heros forget to bat, bowl and field do you?
These players are not heros but zeros. Just make as much as money and then go.
RE:What credibility does Chappell have ...
by Cool Chap on Oct 03, 2007 10:42 AM
This same logic applies to Greg also. He also made money by making BCCI fools. End results were a big zero.
You guys sit here and talk c*rap all day long. What actually happens in International cricket is a completely different story. You think what you see is the complete truth. Those 35 hours of cricket on screen (five ODIs in a series) is all you know. There are many many more things involved.
Every zonal selector backs his candidates and tries his best to get them into the playing XI. You guys say, Dhoni or Dravid or Dada should not have picked him in the XI. Do you think it is completely their decision?
Do you think a player or a captain who defies the big BCCI babus can live in the team long? Media is a cheap w*ho*re who sleeps with everyone and dumps them later.
Added to this is the opinions of the team management about a particular match, whom to pick, whether to bat or bowl first etc. The worst part is whom to confide in the bowling department. Every captain as a thinker has his hunch over who can bowl well in given conditions against given opposition. Captains do make mistakes. The great Mike Brearly once said, captaincy is 10% skill and 90% luck.
Anyway, a captain is as good as his team is. Each and every one of you think that you can do the job of Indian captain better than him. You look only at a handful of mistakes a captain makes. Have you ever wondered about all the "right" things he does. They are in hundreds.
First it was Dada, poor guy, did his best... they created ihateganguly dot com site and every tom dick and harry abused him. Indian tea
Fan of Indian cricket team [Images] has called on the Indian cricket board to shield players from an invasive Greg Chappell.
The BCCI needs to be conscious of it because there is a limit to the number of players that are going to survive in that kind of onslaught from Chappells exposure, the fans told NDTV news channel. They need to be looked after and we think the more support that can be given to everybody that is involved in the playing side of Indian cricket, the better it will be for the longevity and the future success of Indian cricket," the fans added. The loser Chappell, 59, is back in India as advisor to the Rajasthan Cricket Academy, after being penniless and begging for for recently in Sydney.
The former Australia captain's 22-month tenure as coach of cricket-crazy India was mired in media-fuelled controversy, and ended immediately after the team's first-round exit in the 50-over World Cup in the Caribbean in March.
RE:CHAPPEL IS GOING TO MAKE A BACK DOOR ENTRY AS INDIA COACH!!
by ralph nader on Oct 03, 2007 10:50 AM
why is chappel being blamed for a bunch of petulant,indisciplined and selfish cricketers--did he tell them not to bat or bowl or field?
The same BCCI Team which confronted Chappel, has been implementing his doctrines one by one after his exit. However, they have refused to get rid of troublemakers. If left unresolved, this will breed more nepotism and bureaucracy to a point of no return.
RE:RE:Admit reality
by gaurav singh on Oct 03, 2007 01:00 AM
I give up.....phew.....why dont you guys migrate to Australia neer Chappel's house and take up janitprial services for him. You will be happy and he also will be happy.
This is not Chappel's doctorine that BCCI is applying. If his doctrine wqas to work, it should have worked in the World cup also, when he was at the helm of affairs. He was the one who kept bringing back Sehwag, who is good for nothing anymore. He is the one who broke the classic openining pair. I feel that he actually worked as a decoy for the Australians as at that time only Indians were challenging them.
RE:Admit reality
by summer on Oct 03, 2007 01:39 AM
"...Sehwag, who is good for nothing anymore..."
Gaurav Bhai,
Sehwag is a victim of confrontation. Please do not support the cause of wrong guys. India needs him more than anyone else, because he engages batting into fast gear right at start. His only disqualifications are that he refuses to play slow, and he is from Delhi.
RE:Admit reality
by gaurav singh on Oct 03, 2007 01:52 AM
Summer(not realname), I am/was a Sehwag fan and I agree with your comments. But his on field attitude in the last 2 yrs have left a lot to be desired. And I guess until he fixes that, he should sit out. Also, he do not have any performance to boast of lately. So how does he deserve to be in the team. Same goes for Tendya.
RE:Admit reality
by summer on Oct 03, 2007 02:25 AM
Attitude problems - all eminent players from North play, talk, and express pride as a source of strength, often misunderstood as ego. It takes a generation to find a talent.
Layoff issue can be remedied by net practice sessions.
On final note, selectors have to find solution for poor scoring rate in ODIs, otherwise the show of MISMATCH will continue.....
Chappel,s advice to BCCI with regard to the media glare is welcome.It,s true all players cannot carry that much pressure to answer all media querries and comments.In fact they should refrain from comments during press meets.Most Of the present T20 players are coached by chappel and for this due credit should be given to him.
RE:Protect the players from media glare
by gaurav singh on Oct 03, 2007 12:49 AM
Man, there is no dearth of white a*ss licking people in India. Next you should say that Mahatma Gandhi was also strengthened in South Africa due to thw whites.....due credit should be given.
We should give credit where it is due, but not to people who were responsible for the biggest downfall of Indian Cricket. But you will not understand. Who is the next one you are going to lick? I guess he will not need a toilet paper.
RE:RE:Protect the players from media glare
by Starwar on Oct 03, 2007 06:42 AM
Pasupathy...you are a white man slave...lot of people agree with Gaurav when u praise chappell .. This ego maniac could not deliver anything in WOrld Cup and ICC cup and vitiated team spirit with his petty politics against Ganguly, Tendulkar and Yuvraj
