RE:RE:Dada
by Marunga Danda on Nov 25, 2007 12:22 PM
Shameless anti Bong halfwits are at Gangully again. These guys have little in their head to understand Ganguly. They start commenting against Ganguly even before the game is over.. They have forgotten that Ganguly has taken 3 wickets in the game and the 2nd innings batting is yet to come. Only one thing they have been taught by piles infected forefathers and chainsnatching maternal uncles. Criticise the Bongs as commies, criticise Rosgullas, and make a situation to irritate them. Have your Ramlila culture spread everywhere. Discourage people to see Bengali group theatre, Satyajit Ray movies but spread Hanuman culture. Attach a fake tail in the asshhole and jump like a monkey.
RE:why Shoaib is not being bowled more today?
by vicky on Nov 23, 2007 05:12 PM
because shoaid can't bowl for a long time...his stamina is very low. once he is hit for a few four and sixes he tries to look for an excuse to get out of bowling. Our batsmen should always try to get him tired by playing him patiently and when he is tired in a few overs because of his long run-up should go after him.haina
Add the One day international runs (Batsmen version of runs) to TEST runs, add 22 one day centuries to 13 test centuries and voila, Bengal Produced a Gr8 Batsmen...
Ganguly in one dayers in 2007 against South Africa, Pakistan and Australia Against South Africa in Ireland M Runs Hs Avg 100 50 3 73 42 24.33 0 0
Against Australia in India M Runs Hs Avg 100 50 5 127 86 31.75 0 1
Against Pakistan in India M Runs Hs Avg 100 50 4 89 39 22.25 0 0
Ganguly even after his come back and a lot of hard work in his batting actually scored that much against the 3 teams which have good fast bowlers.
Again his majority of runs came against WI in India, Sri Lanka (minus Vaas and Murali) in India, Bangladesh, Bermuda and a 50 in the lone match against Ireland and 3 fifties against the weak England side. Though india unfortunately lost the one day series but England never have been a good one day side. Neither they had their main bowlers.
RE:How Ganguly becomes a gr8 batsmen
by Marunga Danda on Nov 25, 2007 12:23 PM
Shameless anti Bong halfwits are at Gangully again. These guys have little in their head to understand Ganguly. They start commenting against Ganguly even before the game is over.. They have forgotten that Ganguly has taken 3 wickets in the game and the 2nd innings batting is yet to come. Only one thing they have been taught by piles infected forefathers and chainsnatching maternal uncles. Criticise the Bongs as commies, criticise Rosgullas, and make a situation to irritate them. Have your Ramlila culture spread everywhere. Discourage people to see Bengali group theatre, Satyajit Ray movies but spread Hanuman culture. Attach a fake tail in the asshhole and jump like a monkey.
RE:This is for you hindu blogger
by sanjay on Nov 23, 2007 12:09 PM
Ganguly ....The only Hundred against Bangla Desh. king against Bangla Desh and Kenya againat good team 4 years back in 2003 against england.
RE:This is for you hindu blogger
by slash on Nov 23, 2007 11:22 AM
ganguly is not indispensible, same with dravid. your stats are misplaced, since dravid can bounce back, so can ganguly. they can surely be rotated. kicking out oldies according to your whims is a bit of place. rotating like they have done recently with the oldies trio is fine.
RE:This is for you hindu blogger
by hindublogger on Nov 23, 2007 09:33 AM
Like ganguly is a match winner in ODIs ..laxman n dravid are match winners in Test .. saurav has to make wwya for Yuvi
RE:This is for you hindu blogger
by Cricket s on Nov 23, 2007 10:13 PM
Test matches::::...Dravid has a career average of 56 vs Ganguly's 41. Dravid averages 60 outside India. Ganguly averages around 30 vs Pak, Aus, SA and WI - these teams have good pace bowlers. As far as test matches are concerned, you cant compare Dravid and Ganguly
I would say, play Ganguly at all costs against England, Bdesh, SL and ZIM. He will get runs. That is evidnet from his test scores against these four countries
RE:kumble surprises me
by slash on Nov 23, 2007 11:25 AM
according to you, probably the best captain would be the person who's most "ad worthy". i consistently see people with the best acting talents chosen over, effective but probably poor acting skills like dravid or kumble. kumble had to forever cop with criticism that he's a non performer from this elite group of people who favour flamboyant crickters. which is why kumble, laxman, dravid, etc always had to face criticism despite good performances.
RE:kumble surprises me
by Raja Ivaturi on Nov 23, 2007 10:39 PM
The players like Kumble never played for crowds. They played as per what was required in the match. Some players were rated as selfless simply because they threw their wickets after hitting one, two hits to fence. Similarly some bowlers are popular more by their agreesive expression than taking wickets. People like Kumble and Dravid didnt do that.
RE:Reporter the ''BEST'' rascal of India
by Cricket s on Nov 23, 2007 10:16 PM
Oh you are one of these who cant swollow tough decisions. May be you would have supported including SG in T20 team even if it means we would lose the cup.
when I was living in Germany, we had a idli 1st officer who joined replacing another non idli guy. Generally Indians mix freely without any inhibitions and keep the flag of indian unity high.
One this rascal came in, within 3 months the entire team below was filled with other idlis...a group was formed and soon the embassy became a den of politics and unthinkable nuisance and corruption. Finally in another six months, a petition was given to the ambassador for this removal and he was finally removed. Guys this happened in 2001 when Chandrasekharan was removed...people can check.
I am not surprised that with Rahul Dravid's inclusion as a captain, people have started figting among themselves within the team. Duing Ganguly's time, I never heard Sachin and saurav fighting...in fact I never heard any team member ever fighting or doing politics within the team. But moment dravid came in, a vicious environment of infighting set in...even sachin started fighting with Dravid...we all know that.
When I see the hatred of some idlis in this forum...it is disgusting. keep fighting guys...more u do, more we defend...
RE:vile rotten idlis...
by slash on Nov 23, 2007 11:27 AM
ganguly's time was beset with factionism, get ypur stats right roshogullah or a panipuri or whatever you are!
RE:vile rotten idlis...
by nanda utpala on Nov 23, 2007 09:21 AM
Hi Mature stud, I dont thnk u are mature as ur name suggets.... U are a peanut to write about the great Dravid.. ..please stop and go ahead with ur work...
RE:vile rotten idlis...
by agni putran on Nov 23, 2007 09:43 AM
Idli guys are far better and brilliant humans than those chappathi guys..the whole world knows that!!ha ha!
RE:vile rotten idlis...
by Anandh B on Nov 24, 2007 04:06 AM
Well an idli guy and a non idli guy! So i am assuming you are a non-idli guy? Your comments have a tinge of borderline regionalism and even racism. I can not judge on what happened in Germany but who are you to stereotype people? You dont know anybody in this forum and you are judging on them?
Ganguly has been playing Bengali politics rather than Cricket to run down his fellow Cricketers from other regions. Ganguly has antagonized a distinguished coach like Chappel, who is not an Indian in the first place. Ganguly has involved Dalmiya as well as political forums to canvass support for his case. These things are not the hallmarks of a Cricketer or Leader: but are appropriate for a seasoned politician.
RE:RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by vikram on Nov 23, 2007 09:16 AM
man his chaddi business is down.reporter is jobless so he spends time blogging out here but knows nothing about cricket.but its wise if he spends more time reviving his career which is chaddi selling.reporter please man,u look so good selling chaddis.sell pantis too.we dont mind if u wear a panti coz ur a bisexual.save rediffmail.com from ur sick blogs REPORTER.GO BACK TO CHADDI SELLING.
RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by vikram on Nov 23, 2007 09:12 AM
REPOORTER seriously man u better sell chaddis than bogging out here.u know nothing,seriously,U KNOW NOTHING.as a matter of fact a player of the domestic australian(coached by greg chappell) team said that greg chapell was a good player but seriously not a good coach.when chappell was that teams coach,the team was 7th in ranking in australia.his useless experimentation cost the team its ranking.but anyways why am i saying this to a chaddi seller like ya.u know nothing man,ur cricketing knowledge is a big zero.dont know why u even attempt to blog out here.for what.to write shit ofcourse.dalmiya played politics with ganguly u fool.get ur facts right and then talk.
RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by hindublogger on Nov 23, 2007 09:12 AM
Well reporter ..its true that he has been a master politician. But to be a good leader you shd be good politician too ..to a certain extent. Well sourav did provide few good years of entertainment in ODIs.He has to thank Dalmiya for his India career.And what did he give to Dalmiya in return? Dalmiya daughter got divorced due to him.
RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by vikram on Nov 23, 2007 09:23 AM
hindublogger seems like ur dalmiya's saala.r u his chamcha.u talk as if dalmiya is dood ka dula hua.good,but we do know whats true.even ajay jadega live on ndtv said that dalmiya played politics with ganguly.now what can anybody say anything more.just get the facts right.ganguly never played politics with the team ya dalmiya.okay he was the captain so occasionally he may have been a bit selfish.but excuse which captain wont do stuff as a captain.if u see ganguly never did anything.its all coz of that aussie dog greg chappell he lost his place in the side.greg and kiran more played big time politics and dalmiya too.ur plain anti ganguly,nothing more to add.
RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by hindublogger on Nov 23, 2007 09:30 AM
vikram ... my source of info are my bong journo friends themself. So you dont need to doubt truth of what i said. And you know what ..even when they tell me all these ..they admire Sourav.Regarding captain being a politician ...I belive he has to be a politician to certain extent.If you have watched the Indian cricket 4 sometime ..you will be able to draw parallels btw Ganguly's rise in the team and Dalmiya's rise in the administration. Well I've never been a fan of dravid either.In fact I follow the game based on its merits . am not in any fan club like you guys. If one plays good I admire. In this series if saurav playes well I'll be here to admire him as well.Game is not about one player or two.
RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by vikram on Nov 23, 2007 10:06 AM
okay i appreciate ur views.m not a ganguly fan but the way he was dumped as if he were yesterdays thrash clearly indicates he was a victim of cheap politics.i felt for him.if u see he was not playing that bad in 2005.sehwag was given a lot of chances but he didnt perform.ganguly was not even give a quarter of those chances.they dumped him.but he is playing well.he did perform in sa and eng.yesterday he picked mohammad yousufs vital wicket.i dont plainly support him.m not a bengali.hes been a role model as a captain.dravid is good too but he was not as good as ganguly.what i dont understand is why only ganguly.why is he everybodys target when many in the side aint performing outstanding.all i heard was dalmiya played cheap politics,leaked chappells mail before the bcci elections in 2005.what about kiran more.he too played politics and when many in the side werent performing well he stuck to the same team selection and messed up the team big time.upon his comeback just see how many tests and odis india won.he has been performing well so he deserves a place in the side.yuvraj is still young and a very goos player.we cant rule out both of them.
RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by sanjay on Nov 23, 2007 12:16 PM
Ganguly is blocking Yuvi place Punjab Da Puttar Yuvi is suffering because of him.
Bengal Reserve Quota rules
Dada 1 wicket = 5 wickets Dada 10 runs = century Dada drops catch = good dive Dada 1 run = 3 runs ran Dada Century against Zim = Dada scoring Centuru against Australia Dada saving 1 run = Dada saving 10 runs Dada out on bouncer = Dad hitting sixer to Akhtar Dada sixer to spinner = Yuvi hitting six sixes Dada posing to camera = Dada replacing Shahrukh in films... That is Bengal class Dada is Bengal class not Test class.
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RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by Rajarshi Roy on Nov 23, 2007 09:12 AM
abe reporter, try to accept the fact that dravid was also responsible for Dada's exclusion from the team. While Dada was dropped, Dravid never tried to help dada to get his form back which Dad would do for any of this team mate by constant support and encouragement. In fact for the lust of captaincy he shook hand with idiot chappel to get rid of Ganguly. Dravid himself is a class batter but not a natural captain. U got to admit he & chappel along with joker Kiran More conspired against Dada. So don't try to defend Dravid, he is just like a wet cat. So Dravid is a politician not DADA.
RE:RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by hindublogger on Nov 23, 2007 09:19 AM
Sourav brought in the politics which was absent when Azhar and sachin were captians. Dravid inherited that ..he thought he can do anything with Dalmiya's support. Now dravid paid the price for siding with Chappell
RE:Why Dada is the Worst Captain
by Cricket s on Nov 23, 2007 10:21 PM
Check Ganguly's record before he was dropped. Do you know that John Wright wanted to get rid of Ganguly? Why should SG be included in the test team when he has such an ordinary record. Do you know that our top batsmen average well over 50? Even VVS for a longtime was averaging close to 50 since his 281. Even Sehwag averages close to 50. SG is an ordinary test batsman but very good at milking ordinary bowling.
Did we notice that Sachin supported Kumble for captaincy in preference to Dhoni. Needless to say such support is not for cricketing reasons as Dhoni has been praised by one and all. However, the objective of this message is not to make an argument for Dhoni. [I am only trying to see the goings on in a prespective.] Kumble is lionising Saurav and in his comments, Saurav has returned the compliments. He has also talked about himself and Dravid knocking at the door (for seletion in team) in their younger days, just to remind us of the old comraderie. The equations have changed as the situation has changed. I believe even Dravid will now be as brotherly towads Saurav as he used to be, at least outwardly. Their fans, however, are still charged up and sewing venom at each others heros. Let us look at the things more intelligently and analytically.
RE:RE:Changing equations
by Anandh B on Nov 24, 2007 04:11 AM
Somebody has got to be the skipper. This is international cricket and every player is picked on certain merits. So what if they admire each other? The best analytical thought on this situation is: "I dont give a damn!"
RE:Changing equations
by Ravi on Nov 23, 2007 09:08 AM
For sure, you need to change your "perspective" and use your "intelligence" and "analytical skills" in understanding this game rather than focussing on who is "lionising" whom and who is returning favours to whom within the team. At the end of the day nobody cares for the interpersonal relationships when the pressure of playing at highest professional level is too high. All that matters is the end result and how well the team strategy for a particular game reflects on the field, simple. Live in the moment my friend and think "Cricket"!.
RE:Changing equations
by Ashish Kumar on Nov 23, 2007 09:19 AM
Please do not agree with me but just keep in mind what I have written. You will fall in line very soon. What we are witnessing today is survival game. And if you think that in this world, especially in India, one survives by merits alone then you are livng in your own paradise. Net-working is the most important survival technique the world over. Of course, this realisation will take away the immense pleasure the fans derive in using their heros as vehicles for venting their deep seated dark emotions.
RE:Changing equations
by Raja Ivaturi on Nov 23, 2007 10:43 PM
Kumble worrying about survival is the joke of this decade. If it is true that he with such an excellent record, needed to put additional effort for survive than it is sad time for Indian cricket.
RE:Changing equations
by Ravi on Nov 23, 2007 11:01 AM
Survival game? Name one team or one professional player across the globe who is not performing for his survival at the highest level? As for merits, Sachin, Dravid are in the team due to their experience. Kumble is leading the team at crucial time after this responsibility was turned down by none other than Sachin for some mysterious personal reason. Ganguly's presence is still working wonders in the teams aggressive winning attitude. As for fans venting their "deep seated dark emotions", which is a naive and a harsh opinion about them, thats just because cricket has killed all the other sports in India, you can't blame them. Looking at cricket as a "team" sport, I would rather bank my hopes on likes of Ganguly,Kumble, Dhoni instead of Sachin or Dravid. I don't care for who is in or who is not in the team as long as India wins the game at the end of the day.The biggest problem with us indians is that we are "the best" at writing thesis about any problem under the sky but equally poor in accepting the reality and taking positive outlook or a solution oriented approach to any of these problems.Sad but true.
