In any field of games the umpire is the judge and what the umpire feels correct that should be accepted. Any resentment should not be shown on the playing arena and that too against visual media which puts the player and scanner thus making the player a prey for the referee.
RE:UMPIRES IS THE RIGHT JUDGE
by Shake Abdullah on Nov 21, 2007 11:30 PM
we said ... but not so easy to follow when the unpire makes jack ass decisions ...
In any field of games the umpire is the judge and what the umpire feels correct that should be accepted. Any resentment should not be shown on the playing arena and that too against visual media which puts the player and scanner thus making the player a prey for the referee.
IT IS TIME TO GET TECHNOLOGY INTO THE GAME IN A BIGGER WAY.
THIS SORRY, SORRY BUSINESS WILL NOT HELP THE PLAYER. WHEN YUVRAJ STOOD HIS GROUND, THEY DOCKED HIS MATCH FEES BY 20%, BUT THEN WHAT COULD YUVI DO, WHEN HE WAS SO SURE THAT HE WAS - NOT OUT?
THE PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS AT THE RECEIVING END AGAINST THE UMPIRES, AND ANY FORM OF DISCENT IS FINED.
I THINK THE UMPIRES TOO SHOULD BE FINED, AND THEIR MATCH FEES SHOULD BE DEDUCTED, AS WELL AS THEY SHOULD BE OUT FOR A COUPLE OF MATCHES, FOR THE MISTAKES THEY MAKE.
THIS IS ONLY FAIR TO THE PLAYERS AND THE GAME AS A WHOLE.
I AM SURE THAT THEY WILL BRING TECHNOLOGY IN, IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. WHY NOT DO IT RIGHT NOW?
The absence of Chappel or any so called Coach has allowed the Indian players to settle in to a rythm. Dravid also did a great service to the nation by resigning. Chappel in particular has no relevance in the Indian context.
RE:Absence of Coach Chappel and Captain Dravid
by Prasad Manokaran on Nov 21, 2007 10:03 AM
Some six months later, a new team is formed for what is the latest form of cricket - a slam-bang format known as Twenty20. The big 3 decide (???) to make themselves unavailable for the format, the team gets a huge dose of unknown, untested "fresh blood" cricketers; multi-dimensional, fit and athletic (most of them), who run well and field better, non-celebrities (most of them), a team eager to prove themselves, led by another of those younger breed of players uncluttered with his own importance. The result - India wins the Twenty20 World Cup, beating teams they looked nowhere near matching six months ago.
It is not about winning the Twenty20 cup. It is about the attitude, the fearlessness, the team work, the work ethic that Chappell spoke about, which seemed to be in abundance in the Twenty20 winning team.
Could this team have won the 50-50 World Cup, 2007? Maybe, maybe not! Even this team could have lost in any of those tightly contested matches against England, Australia, South Africa and Pakistan in the just-concluded Twenty20 cup. It is not about that! It is the nation showering accolades on the players who fit the vision Chappell had for Indian cricket, except that when Chappell was here, the same nation was busy putting obstacles everywhere. Our egos wouldn't let a white man win against our heroes, our Gangulys and our Tendulkars; when they "opted" out themselves, it was ok.
RE:Absence of Coach Chappel and Captain Dravid
by Gabbar Singh on Nov 20, 2007 07:14 PM
Well Mr. Indra, who is a relevant in the present team. I mean there are players like Ganguly, Dravid, Kumble, all are also irrelevant in the present team. Chappell was the real guru and he should be brought back as coach.
RE:RE:Absence of Coach Chappel and Captain Dravid
by Anindita Mukherjee on Nov 20, 2007 08:30 PM
You are great. See all. Know all. Understand nothing. Backing the guy who ruined Indian team. Quite understandable, picked up the name of a gentle film hero. Go to heaven.
RE:Absence of Coach Chappel and Captain Dravid
by Prasad Manokaran on Nov 21, 2007 10:03 AM
When Greg Chappell became the coach of the Indian team, he brought a vision with him. That vision involved creating a team of youngsters; players who were eager to learn and experiment; players uncluttered with their own importance; fit and athletic players who ran well and fielded better; players who played for each other rather than for themselves; players that were multi-dimensional. That was what would win them the World Cup, he said, and people sneered at his ignorance of preferring the Rainas and Sreesanths to the Gangulys and Zaheers.
Worse still, he lost no time in taking out the Gangulys and the Zaheers from the team equation itself. He found himself none too impressed with the Tendulkars. He tried to persuade the nation to accept his vision; a nation that was more obsessed with whether Tendulkar got his 40th ton than whether or not India won its next match; a nation that wanted their 'Dada' to be in the team even if every bowler, including domestic ones, were queuing up to take a shot at him. Simply put, the nation thought Indian cricket had been handed over to wrong - even dangerous - hands.
The usual Indian politics followed that has kept our nation back for so long in cricket and other fields, and India went into the World Cup of 2007 with what the nation wanted, rather than what the man hired to chalk out the World Cup strategy wanted. The result was a first-round exit.
The absence of Chappel or any so called Coach has allowed the Indian player to settle in to a rythm. Dravid also did a great service to the nation by resigning from captaincy. Chappel in particular has no relevance in the Indian context.
yuvraj singh was right bcoz anyone can get angry playing on the ground and is being cheating with the decision and that to in front of pakistani players
RE:yuvrag was right
by mrpaki on Nov 20, 2007 10:05 PM
ewww salman didnt get angry one he was given out for 129 by shastri when the ball was pitched ouside the line and was going to miss offstump by a mile cry baby yuvraj
Wrong umpiring and wrong judgements/decisions by the Umpire Suresh Shastri has costed India very dearly. When Pakistan was batting, this umpire did not gave proper judgements for the appeals made by our Indian bowlers because of which, Paks were able to score 306 runs which seemed impossible in the beginning or half of the match. The Indian umpire dug the grave for the Indians unfortunately. The foreign umpires would have done a better job compared to the silly Suresh Shastri who betrayed the Indians. He should be really ashamed of this act and should not do this umpiring business in future. He can take up a career in real estate business which I think would really suite him.
RE:Nasty Umpiring
by mrpaki on Nov 20, 2007 10:07 PM
o ya what about salman decion in 4th odi and what about ricky stumping and how about when st was cleary out 4 time against oz's then shastri was a good umpire now he isnt cus it was aginst u guys
I think Yuvraj should not engage in such drama. In real time it did appear he had nicked the ball. There was noise and deviation. The umpire was in no doubt and that is why did not give the benefit of doubt. I think Yuvraj tried to act oversmart because it was an Indian umpire had it been non-asian he would dare not. Lately I think the umpiring has improved tremdously and we should all applaud that. Infact 95% of the times you have even commentators saying "ohh that is close - that should be out" and then after taking a look at the Slow motion - say " wow the umpire has got it right - that was a great decision" Of course you will have few that go the wrong way but that is the human element in the game which makes is so much more interesting and unpredictable. Even in football you will see refrees at times getting it wrong and showing yellow card to the player and if he does dispute a red card is at refrees disposal. Yuvraj in his career I am sure must have got the benefit even when he must have been out. What has he done at such times - walked away saying he was out - no smirking and carried on.
Yuvraj was fined because he stood for his justice... Career of the players should not be in the hands of the umpires who are reluctant to approach third umpires if they are in doubt. Player should have a right to stand against the misjudgement. We should not forget that players represent whole country and these kind of bad decisions annoy that fans, supporters, cricket lovers of that country. ICC has to make some changes taken in consideration the ill effects of the bad decision.
ICC and BCCI are big mafia net work. They can make or break a match a player. I feel that since India already won the series the BCCI must have instructed the umpires to be soft to Pakistan so that they can win the last game. The ICC has framed certain rules for the betterment of the game but with different yardstick for different countries and continents. The player should be given to appeal to the Third umpire if he so strongly feels he is not out.With all the technology available and time available to Third umpire he can give the judgement and also there should transparency. If the player appeal for the sake appeal, and found guilty he should penalised heavily. Shed your egos and use the technology.
