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S Chandra
Dravid wont be coming back to the ODI team anytime soon
by S Chandra on Nov 13, 2007 01:17 PM  | Hide replies

For all Dravid fans, I have bad news !
Dravid is not coming back to the ODI team any time soon. The current selection committee is only interested in multi-dimensional players, ie. players who can do 2 out of 3 things from batting / bowling / good fielding.

Both Sachin and Ganguly are batting all rounders, so they will continue in the ODI team for a while.

Dravid wont be coming back.
Same reason why Laxman wont find a place in the ODI team. Because he cant bowl.

Why does poor fielding not matter ?
Because you can put in a replacement fielder like Raina or Kaif, if because of pitch conditions, Sachin or Ganguly are not put in place of 5th bowler.

But Dravid will be back for the tests.
So will Laxman.

But Dravid's ODI days are over.
Sorry guys, just the truth !

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Ashish Kumar
RE:Dravid wont be coming back to the ODI team anytime soon
by Ashish Kumar on Nov 13, 2007 03:02 PM
Dravid was in ODI only because of lack of better options or because he had agreed to keep wicket, thereby doubling up as an all rounder. He is a correct player, suited for test matches, like Mohammad Yusuf of Pakistan. With availability of more and more players who are tailor made for ODI, Dravid's recall can be only at the expense of team India's genuine interest.

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S Chandra
In response to those in this forum that Ganguly is protected by Durga
by S Chandra on Nov 13, 2007 11:54 AM  | Hide replies

Well yes it is. He is blessed by Durga ! Its true. A lot of people dont believe in such things, but some people do. But really the question is why does he have this special blessing from Durga ?

Its because he is a true patriot for this country, a just and noble person, like some of our mythical Gods. He loves India and will not let anyone (Steve Waugh, Nasser Hussain, Andrew Flintoff) insult his country. Which is why he fights back with the ferociousness of Ma Durga's lion. He is not at all parochial. He doesnt care about regionalism, who likes him, who doesnt like him, even his form and performance. He just doesnt want anyone in this world to harm India. Its the truth. Thats his heart. He loves the country more than himself. If he wasnt a cricketer he would have been a freedom fighter.

If you critise his batting it might not upset him, but if u desecrate the Indian flag in front of him, u'll see how he reacts. Flintoff found out when he insulted the Indian crowd by taking off his shirt !!

We are not just talking of him as a cricketer, Im talking of him as a person. He loves India more than his own life.

There's one phrase which defines him completely - "The true patriot".
Which is why he made such a good captain because he put the Indian nation first. He infused a sense "nation before self" into the Indian team. Many people have admitted that.

Which is why he is unique.

Which is why when people oppose him, they invoke the curse of Durga.

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S Chandra
RE:In response to those in this forum that Ganguly is protected by Durga
by S Chandra on Nov 13, 2007 11:58 AM
Sunil Gavaskar noticed this (among other people :) .. ), which is why he called him "Saurav - Desh ka Gaurav". Kapil Dev noticed it too. Which is why Kapil himself said Ganguly is the best captain India ever had.

He is a ferociously patriotic person. Thats why through the laws of karma, those gods whom we believe protect our land and people, protect him.

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premraja
RE:In response to those in this forum that Ganguly is protected by Durga
by premraja on Nov 13, 2007 03:55 PM
please ask godess Durga to make hom bat faster. ganguly strike rate is generally pathetic these days.and if u have the guts please do not report for abuse

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Ashish Kumar
RE:In response to those in this forum that Ganguly is protected by Durga
by Ashish Kumar on Nov 13, 2007 05:21 PM
In his twilight years ganguly is doing what he can. It is not brilliant as it used to be in his youger days but is still good enough for the team India to win. And I do not think a strike rate of 70 plus is too bad keeping in view the fact that mostly he is sticking it out and getting some runs whereas others who replaced him perished without scoring adequate runs. May be some day we shall get a better option, perhaps sooner than later, but till then he remains our best bet.

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Ashish Kumar
Just for fun
by Ashish Kumar on Nov 13, 2007 10:16 AM  | Hide replies

I am reproducing an observation by one of the contributors:
"There is some witch's spell on guys who replace Ganguly....
Even i have observed this .....all those who crossed swords with Ganguly or were trying to replace him are now in the doldrums!!

Greg chappell humiliated him and Chappell's career as a coach nosedived.....
Dravid opposed Ganguly and now he is out of the team!!
Raina replaced Ganguly and his career is now in jeopardy...
Gambhir lost his form when he replaced Ganguly..
Sehwag's career got destroyed after he replaced Ganguly!!

Either it is some witch's spell on guys who cross paths with Ganguly or he has the protection of Durga!!"
I will add Mohammad Asif to the list who, with his big swings, could have been a real threat to Saurav Ganguly. However, he failed to set foot in India for the ODIs. When Asif will eventually come (for tests) Ganguly will not be opening and he will torment (and perhaps decimate) some guy who might have threatened Ganguly by some good performance. Funny, isn't it?


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S Chandra
RE:Just for fun
by S Chandra on Nov 13, 2007 11:52 AM
Well yes it is. He is blessed by Durga ! Its true. A lot of people dont believe in such things, but some people do. But really the question is why does he have this special blessing from Durga ?

Its because he is a true patriot for this country, a just and noble person, like some of our mythical Gods. He loves India and will not let anyone (Steve Waugh, Nasser Hussain, Andrew Flintoff) insult his country. Which is why he fights back with the ferociousness of Ma Durga's lion. He is not at all parochial. He doesnt care about regionalism, who likes him, who doesnt like him, even his form and performance. He just doesnt want anyone in this world to harm India. Its the truth. Thats his heart. He loves the country more than himself. If he wasnt a cricketer he would have been a freedom fighter.

If you critise his batting it might not upset him, but if u desecrate the Indian flag in front of him, u'll see how he reacts. Flintoff found out when he insulted the Indian crowd by taking off his shirt !!

We are not just talking of him as a cricketer, Im talking of him as a person. He loves India more than his own life.

There's one phrase which defines him completely - "The true patriot".
Which is why he made such a good captain because he put the Indian nation first. He infused a sense "nation before self" into the Indian team. Many people have admitted that.

Which is why he is unique.

Which is why when people oppose him, they invoke the curse of Durga.



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Prashant
RE:Just for fun
by Prashant on Nov 13, 2007 01:44 PM
Well well Mr chandra , thgh am als an avid admirer of Suarav but I think wat you just wrote does'nt makes sense or must i say sheer bullony.You argument assumes that he is the only patriot which is precariously biased, you desecrate national flag in friont of any one and you wd have worst nightmare in frnt of yr eyes, ( I still quite did'nt got the idea as when/who descrated indian glag, going by yr logic everone who takes thier shirt out in match are gullible to such adjctive, which is in itelf doubtful, Soccer players always do that)
And please dont talk about politics and regionalism , the faster you frge this the better you would be. It was Ganguly who started his politics when he realied his poision in the team was jeoprdised.I can only but admire as to what kind of view you have ..truly amazing in its making.
moreover you might consider yrself less a patriot, we dont . Agreed he brought killer instinct more so because he got youngsters in the team , my point in give the guy his due but dont idolize him.Which is precisely he was ousted from the team.And mark my words the way he is playing now does'nt seals his position.
So in all Mr N Chandra before making such tall claims have a more research or maybe more introspection, it will certianly help everyone and of course you .
Truly Yrs
P.S : Sorry fr the typos

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Ashish Kumar
RE:Just for fun
by Ashish Kumar on Nov 13, 2007 02:52 PM
Dear Prashant,
I would like to make one small point. A lot of persons, cricketers and fans alike, are not patriotic. They are loyal to their region only and not to the Indian nation. The way a number of persons are trying to suggest that India's winning combination should be broken and rahul dravid/sahwag be brought in, one can not come to a different conclusion. Yes, I agree that Saurav is one of the few players who are patriotic.

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selten jayaraj
no link
by selten jayaraj on Nov 12, 2007 04:39 PM

this useless link from opening bage inbehalf of Australia crush srilanka

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Anniyan
India Shud have been 3-0 up ,but for Umpires
by Anniyan on Nov 12, 2007 01:56 PM  | Hide replies

Its surprising to see such a important series has neutral umpire as someone who has just 18 ODI under his belt. Yousuf and Younis were plumb infront in Second ODI for pathan

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TJ
RE:India Shud have been 3-0 up ,but for Umpires
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 02:02 PM
Did you see the 3rd ODI, couple of ouTs, which weren't actually (leg before) were given against Pakistanis...You need more???

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Anniyan
RE:India Shud have been 3-0 up ,but for Umpires
by Anniyan on Nov 12, 2007 03:16 PM
Yes i saw and it was Only Salman Butts decision that went against Pak...But yes They tend to even out at the end. BUt a Umpire with such less exp for such a Important Series is pathetic

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Reza Arif
RE:India Shud have been 3-0 up ,but for Umpires
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 02:44 PM
Ultimately .. Bad decisions tend to even out .. so we should not be very concerned about that!

Meanwhile .. ICC should start taking note of the no. of decisions taken, good decisions & bad decisions and probably come out with stats on umpire performance! In every match, key decisions .. given Out or Not-Out can be looked at to arrive at this score on umpire performance .. Awards are given to umpires like Simon Taufel primarily because of popularity amonst players etc. and there doesnt seem to be any scoring / performance indicators

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anil babladi
RE:India Shud have been 3-0 up ,but for Umpires
by anil babladi on Nov 12, 2007 03:27 PM
well said mite. When I watch the match of SL and Aus, I could see a day light gap between bat and ball for the first innings when Jayasurya was given out. I do not want to sound like else SL would have won it at least it would have delayed the inevitable. These umpires should be fined or let the players show their expressions. Best umpire of the quarter really should be maintained and the same metric should be used to pay them. Micheal Vaughan was right in suing ICC couple of years back when umpiring was criticized.

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TJ
RE:India Shud have been 3-0 up ,but for Umpires
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 03:32 PM
I bet that this decision is no way comparable as to how the mighty Australians played the whole match. The body language of Sri Lankans were as good as dead rat.

At least driving out Jayasuriya made Atapattu & Vandort play a far too respectable innings. With regard to Jayasuriya's hit, there was a noise and the snicko showed some deflections, though it might not necessarily be bat (as you would say). Human eyes and ears are certainly error prone.



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RE:India Shud have been 3-0 up ,but for Umpires
by . on Nov 12, 2007 09:46 PM
dont think that only players are in for fixing. even ump r hand in glove with the menace. series has to be kept alive by allowing each side win one match at a time. so if players fail, then umps come to their rescue.

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TJ
Australia Victory is Indian Victory
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 01:41 PM  | Hide replies

In rediff sports column, click the link "Aussies thrash Sri Lanka" you will be surprised to get into the Indian Victory Column mentioning Salman Bhatt's Century in vein.

Moral of the story: India is the owner of all Australian Victories.

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TJ
RE:Australia Victory is Indian Victory
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 05:07 PM
Rediff has now corrected its errow!!!!! (at least, now)

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vijay birajdar
INDIAN PEOPLE BEHAVIOUR
by vijay birajdar on Nov 12, 2007 12:33 PM  | Hide replies

GUYS AND GALS I CONCLUDE THIS DISCUSSION BY SAYING A FEW WORDS TO UU KNOW WELL INDIANS BEHAVIOUR WHENEVER ONE PLAYS GOOD IN THE TEAM INDIAN PEOPLE RAISES THAT PERSON INTO A GOOD HEIGHT AND WHEN THE SAME PERSON DOESNOT PLAY WELL THEN INDIANS START CURSING HIM SAYING THAT HE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE TEAM AND ALL SUCH SCRAPS


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Suresh Kumar
RE:INDIAN PEOPLE BEHAVIOUR
by Suresh Kumar on Nov 12, 2007 12:49 PM
BUT I ACCEPT UR STATEMENT BUT SEE AUSTRALIANS... EVERY MATCH THEY WIN AND THEY GET APPLAUSE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. O.K..?????

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Shiva S. Patil
RE:INDIAN PEOPLE BEHAVIOUR
by Shiva S. Patil on Nov 15, 2007 02:35 PM
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MUKESH SINGH
RE:Team India
by MUKESH SINGH on Nov 12, 2007 02:36 PM
and you should be the coach.

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anjani verma
RE:Team India
by anjani verma on Nov 12, 2007 04:44 PM
Gyanni babu looking like Sarad Pawar...

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Reza Arif
Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 12:08 PM  | Hide replies

There is so much hue and cry about the Seniors in the team that nowadays I (an ardent believer that they are good enough to play for India) feel that they should take a sabbatical and see how the team performs .. This should be decided along with the selectors ... We will then be able to differentiate chalk and cheese ... These days even when Sachin scores decently.. he is continuously questioned ... about his scoring rate .. about his ability .. which is truly non-sensical .. we just hv to look at his recent scores to know that he is in fine form and one of the best batters for India today!

We must understand by doing what we are .. we are putting additional pressure on him .. If a Yuvraj or Dhoni scores like that nobody even bats an eyelid even in that direction .. For example .. Sachin / Gambhir gave India a solid foundation the other day and the 'young n peppy' middle order failed to capitalise .. we could have breached the 350 score easily but struggled to 321 and that too courtesy some unexpected hitting from Harbhajan!

Even in y'day's match you look at the stats ..
Gambhir 25 off 49 balls
Yuvraj 77 off 95 balls

The scoring rate is not good .. but if the same was done by Sachin .. then people would gun for his head and his removal from the team!

Why this double standard?? Why dont we treat our players equally?? Should they do something really different like taking a sabbatical to prove their worth?

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Madhusudhan N.R.
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Madhusudhan N.R. on Nov 12, 2007 01:25 PM
You are absolutely right. We are the typical fickle minded fans, who expect great things from STD (Saurav, Tendu, Dravid) all the time. These guys are performing better than the young guns even now, in most matches. The wise thing is to have the mix of experience and youth so that the youngsters learn from palying with the big guys, and also slowly raise their performance to levels so that dependence on the top three reduces gradually. This is what smart teams like Australia do. See how they have overcome the absence of gretas like the Waughs, McGrath, Warne, and so many others. The Aussie fans do not go overboard at every vistory or loss. The team may be sore losers, but there is a lot we fans can learn from them. Let us give time to the selectors and STD to make a smooth and easy transition. Grow up, friends...

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Reza Arif
RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 01:35 PM
I agree ...

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TJ
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 01:57 PM
And since he is extra careful, he loses his wicket every time... There aren't any other example...

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Reza Arif
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 02:06 PM
Nah .. I wouldnt buy that argument that he loses his wicket because he is extra careful ..

By the way arent u happy that he is reaching atleast the 90's with more consistency than any other batsman? Arent u happy that he is one of the top scorers for India series after series??

These very people who r supporting the young brigade in ODI's will eat their own words when people like Gambhir fail repetitively to even cross a half century consistently!

I firmly believe that Sehwag & Gambhir dont deserve thier place in the side and that Dravid needs to be re-instated!

A few talented youngsters need to be groomed in a phased manner to fill the void that will be left when the Big Three leave Indian Cricket ..

At the moment .. there are no talented youngsters who are deserving enough to replace them! This is primarily because our Domestic cricket is not challenging enough!

Youngsters should be given chances .. but in a phased manner .. Lets make our Big three play confidently without any pressure to ensure that youngsters get a chance in the team!

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Reza Arif
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 04:53 PM
Sick Man ??? Who continues to be one of the leading run-scorers for our country??

The one who continues to be consistent and for whom we have not yet found a suitable replacement!!

You should learn to make judgements based on facts and not just on whims and fancies .. If we were to run a team based on whims and fancies then we would never move forward as a team ..

Why dont u just accept that you dont hv anything to prove that he is a selfish player ...

Performances need to be analysed, capabilities measured and enhanced over a period of time to ensure that we have a winning combination.

Also .. I am very much an Indian and am from Chennai .. I guess this was another one of your doubts that went wrong ...

Whr u from? Nothing wrong in having a meaningful discussion .. we could agree to disagree in the end!! Right?

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TJ
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 05:43 PM
I am not as jobless as you are, dear, don;t publicise the OMR or ECR rules here. Am not of that low profile to fit into an IT sector.

Am on my own business and have enough of everything, except the fact i sideline the lust for Cricket. You are too young and I wish you all the best...

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Reza Arif
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 05:18 PM
Well .. regarding the 90's .. u can look at it from different ways ..

I look at it that the century is not as important to him as scoring for the country .. I see him as a selfless cricketer .. and am happy that at least somebody in the team is consistent ...

Also, you can accuse him however u want for whatever u want .. but he would continue to be innocent until proven otherwise ... (Thats the law right??)

Anyways .. u seem to be as jobless / interested in cricket as me (depends on the viewpoint).. u must be working for one of the IT companies here !! I work for one of them too in OMR

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Reza Arif
RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 02:37 PM
TJ ...

What is important to u? What he scores of late .. or what he has achieved in the past .. or what he can score in the next year or two??

Anyway u look at it .. I believe that he is the best batsman India has .. Past .. Present or the Near future!

Taking Team India forward is primarily in the Board & the Selectors hands ... choosing the right team is among the fundamentals .. on what basis was Sehwag chosen?? Gambhir's stint with ODI's is not very fruitful .. though he has performed well in T20 .. should he be given a long go .. or should we give a chance to other youngsters?

People like Yuvraj & Dhoni have been with the team for sometime and have been groomed to a certain extent .. they hv to become more consistent to become the future pillars of Indian Cricket.. they hv got a decent amount of grooming by the Big Three!

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TJ
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 06:20 PM
Well, that's a pinch of salt for every IT employee, and doesn't sound anything egoistic, because, it was you who started the "jobless affair". Apparently, you belong to IT sector and I am not and hopefully your sector started flourishg recently, which you know and others too. Hence, you could take a little stroll on your sector and watch for your seniors...lol...

Yes, my talk on enough of everything is the stress on what I have, meaning, job. All of IT sector doesn;t comprise of low profile, but there are a handful. Thats the reason I wanted you to hide out the rules that belong to OMR and ECR.

The reason behind my words sounding fat is because of the difference in age, and I hope when you grow up your perspective might change.

And finally I donot have anything subscripted on an IT sector except for the fact it made life more complicated for a middle class family.

Now, won't you agree with me?

Thanks Young man.

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TJ
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 04:59 PM
So am i from Chennai (madras dhaannga!)

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TJ
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 04:45 PM
I mean he is a sick man in our herd. Why don't you enter the field after the toss along with your books of statistics or crap and face the bowler???

I doubt you are pakistani having a real bask in conflagrating the arguments.

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TJ
RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 04:53 PM
Yes, dude, during April'98, after getting his Man of the Series Award (Opel Car) he publicly announced that he would gift it to his wife. If he plays for India,do you mean to say that he would gift the Country's memento to his personal affairs?

Or, otherwise, if you assume that it was his own achievement and India doesn't need to peek its nose in it, then, it would be for his self satisfaction.

I least bother that he gives away his achievements to his family, friends or anything. All he could do is only at his backyard. Not in an Arab Country where he represents millions of Indians in the form of Cricket, not relishing his honeymoon... you understand?

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Reza Arif
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 06:03 PM
Well .. that didnt sound fair .. People of low profile fit into sectors?? All people working for IT companies are of low profile??

Have enough of everything??? Why is that comment here?? Somebody seems to be on an ego trip here!!

Anyways .. I guess .. love for cricket will be the only common thing between us .. Ultimately both of us wish well for the Indian Team and want it to move forward!

All the best to u too!

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TJ
RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 05:03 PM
You might get into millions of conclusions from my points, however, it is not necessary that I need to have proof. Its me who have accused tendulkar and as far as defending this accusation, its up to you to prove that never he was self-centered.

Trembling in 90's for a consecutive five times doesnt characterise himself that he is devoted, non-selfcentered player. Accept the fact that he needs a break, may be he could select the best column in a leading daily and write post-match scripts with his VAST experience.

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TJ
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 04:19 PM
Anil Babladi I understand the fire in your belly. Upfront get a better look on your face onto mirror before calling others moron. Your long reply does self-centre tendulkar and nothing more. BTW, are you his least relative or vendor?

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TJ
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 02:16 PM
How long are you going to be contended with what he does of late??? We can just chew our raw hand with these thoughts and never take Team India a step further.

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Reza Arif
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 07:01 PM
TJ Uncle (or shud I call Grandpa)

It might not sound egoistic or fatty to u .. but it does to me ... U hazarded a guess about me being a pakistani and I guessed too .. about u bein jobless ... With so many messages from ur side .. I do hv a base for the guess ..

Also.. IT Sector started flourishing recently or not .. (actually around 4 decades back) .. doesnt hv much consequence to our discussion .. and I dont understand why ur emphasising so much on age and job .. When I said jobless ... I was just referring to the amount of free time u hv to key in a whole lot of messages ... My intention was not to hurt u!

About the IT Sector making life complicated for middle class family .. depends on how one uses it .. At home we use our laptops to do basic things like listing grocery, scoring and graphically representing the scores etc. We find computers and IT definitely handy .. It has made living so much more easier .. For Example .. IRCTC is India's Leading eCommerce website .. Middle class families are using the same to buy tickets and now do not hv to travel, stand in queue etc..

If u dont find it useful .. speak for yourself..

Anyways .. Thanks Old Man!

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Reza Arif
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 04:29 PM
TJ ...

Lets put some stats on the table .. some proof of any kind to prove that Sachin is a selfish player ...

I dont think that is possible .. so on what basis u r calling him selfish.. I fail to understand ...

What I really think is that the Indian public does not deserve players like Sachin ... we really dont know how to treat them!

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anil babladi
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by anil babladi on Nov 12, 2007 03:39 PM
TJ, You seem to be a moron hell bent on proving that 1 1=100. It never is, was and will be. On what basis are you saying that Sachin plays for self? Then what about Yuvraj and Dhoni, Yuvraj hit six sixes, it is for self also. Bradman scored all those runs, it is for self also. How would you distinguish self from selfless? You cannot. If a batsman scores 100, is it beneficial for the team or harmful? Depends you might say. But you rarely saw sachin scoring century of 200 balls. Unless its a test. Someone said it rightly, being brave we do not go look for troubles. Similarly to take India, we do not need to fire these legends. On a bad day Sachin can score a fifty of 75 balls on a difficult pitch. That my friend cannot be done by anyone else. Not even Bradman. If sachin scoring a century and let India win, makes him selfish, then so be it. I want him to be selfish. More selfish. I am yet to see a more committed player than Sachin. What he has done, is closest to the title "The Game." Probably its the fate of Sachin that was so written that, when he was challenged to score 50 at young age, he succeeded. To score 100, he succeeded by being second youngest. By taking 5 wickets, he succeeded. By scoring tons and tons of runs, he succeeded. As sachin kept on answering, people kept on questioning. Unable to find a question in terms of challenge, they came up with an abstract, "Sachin plays for Self". Because nothng to prove here. He plays anyway, they say he is selfish. Oz Ploy.

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TJ
RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 02:00 PM
Yes he has been good enough to creat his own records and has not done anything for the Team as a whole. I mean never ever he tried to improve the morale of Team India by effectively executing his responsibilities.

Do you think with all these years he still doesn't have a way to influence the Board and Selectors and be a real Master?? You can;t put yes or no to this question as both will end up your argument as invalid & dead end.

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TJ
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 13, 2007 11:01 AM
Your replies are well exhibited to speak for your ownself or on your IT sector dear "boy". Well, no wonder its your culture to term the "free time" as "jobless", its quite understandable. What is unacceptable is your relentles and unprofessional approach in presenting and later convulting.

Great, you wanted to take credit of the invention of computers to your side, after all you forgot that it was a little dropping from the Western Culture and not your own invention.

You still get paide from the Anglo Saxon group. You ain't forget that little "kid".

IRCTC is a great offer from you, except i really wonder how many "middle class" families would be able to venture their time and appreciate the good services of IT sector.

Kid, (or should i call you baby), you need to grow up a lot and hopefully if you grew once later, read these lines and appreciate your caring for the real Madras.

I could understand your feelings of being raw and inexperienced with a very little exposure. Godwilling, you will come out of your well and get along with this vast country. At least you will be relieved of so far being a little jobless bleak.

Thanks "kid". I am already a father, while do you at least have a family? Why don't you develop some social activity of formulating the deprived ones?

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Reza Arif
RE:RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 02:12 PM
Not done anything for the team as a whole??? What do u mean with that? His scoring runs itself is good for the team ... and if u score runs .. u will be in the team .. he does not have to influence the Board or the Selectors .. He has always had the bat talking for him .. I believe that Dravid & Sachin are true gentlemen who have always avoided making unwanted comments about anybody .. Meanwhile .. its the Board & Selectors who have been making unwanted statements and affecting the morale of the team!

When two of your senior players decline captaincy ... within a coupla months .. there is definitely some problem that is not meeting the eye! Guys like Dhoni might not realise that as they are enjoying their new found success and busy signing contracts and looking at investment opportunities!

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RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by ameya on Nov 12, 2007 08:06 PM
TG,that is why Mr. simon Toffel & Aleem Dr accepted there wrong decisions afterwards

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TJ
RE:RE:RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 13, 2007 11:05 AM
Kid Arif,

You angry without your lolly pop quota today?

Your replies are well exhibited to speak for your ownself or on your IT sector dear "boy". Well, no wonder its your culture to term the "free time" as "jobless", its quite understandable. What is unacceptable is your relentles and unprofessional approach in presenting and later convulting.

Great, you wanted to take credit of the invention of computers to your side, after all you forgot that it was a little dropping from the Western Culture and not your own invention.

You still get paide from the Anglo Saxon group. You ain't forget that little "kid".

IRCTC is a great offer from you, except i really wonder how many "middle class" families would be able to venture their time and appreciate the good services of IT sector.

Kid, (or should i call you baby), you need to grow up a lot and hopefully if you grew once later, read these lines and appreciate your caring for the real Madras.

I could understand your feelings of being raw and inexperienced with a very little exposure. Godwilling, you will come out of your well and get along with this vast country. At least you will be relieved of so far being a little jobless bleak.

Thanks "kid". I am already a father, while do you at least have a family? Why don't you develop some social activity of formulating the deprived ones?

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RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 13, 2007 11:41 AM
Hey TJ Uncle..

Guess age has really caught up with u .. U didnt notice that I had posted that comment last evening ..

Anyways .. I still dont know why ur harping on age .. and exposure and being inexperienced .. U really dont know me .. my age n experience .. so stop harping on that ..

About my family .. again .. I dunno y u wanna involve them into this .. but yeah .. I do hv a family .. and am a father too .. (unfortunately he couldnt survive an infection and he is no more)

Anyways .. I am not sure what u hv against the IT sector .. but am sure u will be using it too in ur daily life .. if not eCommerce .. at least ATM's, Credit Cards, eMails, Television .. and we are dicussing here because of the IT revolution .. in a news portal!

& fyi: IRCTC is the biggest eCom site in India and trains are primarily used by Middle-Class people .. During 2006 .. around 350 Crores of Tickets were sold online! This is just the beginning .. IT's here and IT will revolutionalise the way people live!

Also, I never am taking credit for inventing the PC here!! .. Just happy with the sector I am working ..

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RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 13, 2007 02:01 PM
Right Arif kid!!

I know I have been late in replying, of course due to my job schedules. Sorry, If I had bothered you with the family talk or the profession.

Though am not against any of the IT divisions that goes along by our routine, I am not comfortable with what the Culture & Spirits that they spread along the youth, these days which is an open secret. Of course my human considerations preceded the few positiveness of IT sectors.

I hope you will make the good ones in it and pave your way out. Gud Bye!

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Reza Arif
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 13, 2007 02:52 PM
TJ,

With or without the IT revolution I guess the culture was poised for a change anyways .. The change has not been real big anyways .. what was happening in the closet .. behind closed doors .. is more open now .. Anyways .. Without a firm idea about what exactly you are talking .. it would be difficult to comment ..

but after such a long chat .. I guess another comment is not required from my side ..

Have fun with your life .. and may a lot more of 'everythings' come ur way ... and may India win the series against Paki's and the one in Australia!

Good Bye!

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TJ
RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 13, 2007 02:22 PM
You ameya, were you born for 2 men? why don't you go in search of pig droppings, eat shit and die? No one cares for you.

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RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 13, 2007 03:30 PM
My sarcastic comments on 'the Ameya' are for his falsehood words and abusive behaviour (at the beginning of this segment of forum). Nothing else...

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RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by TJ on Nov 12, 2007 01:15 PM
Its because tendulkar plays for his own records and survival and has nothing to give out to team's prosper.....all these years.

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RE:RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by Reza Arif on Nov 12, 2007 01:34 PM
Surprising .. If he is indeed playing for his own records .. wouldnt he be more careful in his 90's? Do you think he is incapable of making a century? especially after reaching until his 90's!

Also, as people like you might not care about his previous records, look at his recent averages and strike rates .. He is still one of the leading run-scorers series after series ...

I dont understand why you 'feel' that he is playing for personal records? Just because he has been good enough to create records???

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ameya
RE:Sachin along with Ganguly & Dravid should take a 3 month sabbatical
by ameya on Nov 12, 2007 08:03 PM
At least he plays but u r surely not a TJ But a Trans Gender (TG) who cant play anything.U will critisize inspiration of billions and prove that how narrow minded & biased u r at this age with maturity is far away compared to only 34 aged sachi

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