In recent times, Indian team members have been a bunch of self serving people hell bent on making money, power with the support of common man. This sting operation gives us the unity or rather dis-unity existing within the team.
RE:a team of 11 egos
by p on May 10, 2007 08:42 PM
Perfectly Said......I couldnt agree with you more....no country, no sposrtsmanship...its all about money.....i realy dont know how much they want............plz give them as much as they want and kick them out of team............
Mr. Dravid, Do you know who is your biggest enemy? It's the Indian press and these off the field experts, some of them ex national crickerters and some of them who has not played cricket even in their back yard. These are the people for some reasons only known to them try to distract you and your teat from cricket. If I am in your position right now I will never speak to the press and I will never read or listen to what they say. YOUR JOB RIGHT NOW IS TO COLLECT ALL 11 OR 15 OF YOUR ARMY AND PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THE TASK AHEAD. With regards to Seniors, it's up to them whether they support you or not. They have their own problems. If one thinks that they will underperform inorder to fail you as a captain, then their neck is in line before yours. If they don't perfrome under you or any other as a captiain, it's their funaral. I believe you and they will understand that. Divided or United no second chance for individuals this time. IT'S ONLY ONE WAY TRAFFIC. EITHER YOU PLAY OR YOU NEVER PLAY. So this is the opportunity,tell the press to shut up and show the world,specially the Indians that your are MR. DRAVID NOT MRS. AS SOME OF THEM SAY.
RE:POOR MR. DRAVID
by Rajiv on May 10, 2007 07:17 PM
My dear have you played the game of cricket ever??????????????You poor guy..poor suggestions to Dravid, Just think before what you say...!!!!!
RE:POOR MR. DRAVID
by Raja Ivaturi on May 10, 2007 07:42 PM
perfect statement. Press is the worst thing that happened to exist in the world. If I need to choose between press and prostitution I choose the later for chastity. I read the whole report with the heading saying "Sachin and Ganguly had differences with Dravid". The report didnt tell more than a line about possible differences among seniors while most of the discussion was about how bad Chappel was. Still these media people wanted to put a different heading and influence the audience. When will the media act neutral and maintain some professional ethics?
There is always going to be difference of opinion when individuals are involved, especially when the team includes senior players who have also been ex captains. The whole issue has been magnified due to our loss in the WC. There was much hype, but let us admit SL and BG played better when it mattered. Except perhaps Australia, no country can be sure of beating the other top eight teams in the world and I now include BG also in them. I have a nagging feeling they will emulate SL and this can get on the nerves of lot of us. I will take it as good for the game if it raises positive rivalry and standards.
We also have to have positive thoughts. Let the selectors do their jobs without fear or favour. If people have strong views, let them step forward. Negative feelings are thrown about which will not bring victory for the team.
I always had the feeling that the top three are getting along as well as they can be expected to. They are also fighting to keep their places. We have a system going for the whole process which has brought forth some success. We have to be realistic and take our potential into the equation. Generally in sports, we are far behind almost all other nations and we hardly get any medals in the Olympics, despite having one sixth the world population. Then, how can we be world beaters in cricket only. The expectations are way above the realities.
I do not believe any body will under perform, which is clear suicide as far as their position in the team is considered.
Can we overhaul the whole system? This requires hard work and encouragement from all corners.
RE:Divide in team
by Loser The Indian on May 10, 2007 01:14 PM
Your rambling does not give any clear picture!
Are you saying we should be satisfied with India consistently losing to everyone by telling the fact we dont have Olympic Gold medal in swimming?
If Bangladesh played better it is all the more important for us to do better.FYI, even Bangladesh or SL did not win Olympic Gold medals and population density is almost same as India.
India is a country where 1.5 Billion people generate Corbondia Oxide day in and day out, polluting the planet. Other than that they they are no better.
RE:Divide in team
by shiva on May 10, 2007 03:45 PM
My point is cricket is played in a professional set up only in about half a dozen countries. We have been at it for a century now. Now our ranking is even below that of SL and nobody was complaining, and among the last in the list. Many were led to believe that we were one of the favorites for the WC. Now BG is coming into the act and threatens our position further.
Taking our performance in Olympics, where we used to have a medal hope in hockey, now no more. Our population ratio should bring in about 100 medals (whatever colour). We come empty handed. In football, we rank among the bottom - below 100! That is a clear reflection of our sporting prowess. We have one hope in tennis and we expect Sania to recover from injury to again feature among the top 50!
The hard fact is we have no proper set up to bring victory in any sport. We have only hype, before long the reality stares at us.
Whoever us in charge has to come up with a clear agenda. No use in going for verbal diarrhoea after the reality strikes and finding excuses. We need not be like China which wants to beat everybody in every sport. Before long, they will take over tennis and god forbid, cricket.
So a proper, positive well thought out approach is necessary rather than living permanently on hopes. The win in 1983 looks like a dream now.
We should clear the decks of cobwebs and put in a proper set up to have chances of victory in any sport.
I really pray....Dravid pays for being this politicaly correct jak asz. I dont believe he had any support, if he did how come we didnt beat anyone in the worldcup?? Chappel was right (this guys have bigeest ego in the world...especially Sachin and Saurav). The politics they are playing is unbeliveble...I really hope we loose against bangladesh by heart....its not that i hate india....but i hate this egoistic cricketers of ours. I have lost hope in this people....whats point if was cant win the wolrd cup (bigeest event of the Game merely comes once in a 4 years) I really hope (Dravid, tendulkar and ganguly) pays for what they r doing with this indian cricket...taking into biggest mess...bloking the way for youngsters and creating the issues. I still believe Chapel was doing the right thing by fighting fir youth after all they are the future of our country :). I beleive every good thing must come to an End.......and Tendulkar thank you for ur great services but please for havensake leave the game...u have done the enough good......no dont become Ravi shastri of india team. Ganguly(I am speechless about you....plz stay in bangladesh...dont comeback to india......Drvid we have Karntaka MP seat open for you...plz take it....shewag ki ma......apne bete ko bol ki...yeh sab chutiyaqp bandh kare and take sanyas......Yuvraj ur kim is waiting for u dude....agarkar plz now (kutch to kar....atleast retire...............)
RE:indian Cricketers plz give them money and make them politician
by Suman Bhat on May 10, 2007 08:44 AM
K'taka MPs politicians never indulge in sports or cricket. Dravid is in team b'cuz his hardwork and performance. it ganguly who has left party mps support who openly took his name Somnath chaterji in parliment, brinda, budddev lalu paswan atwale all in tvechannels and paper took ganguly's name. these mps did not utter a single word when hocky team had great defeat. India selectors round on Chappell
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/other_international/india/6638989.stm Dada, Sachin had problems with Rahul' Bhupinder, who appeared to be the most vocal of the lot, also said that Sachin and Sourav did not lend their full support to Dravid because they nurtured captaincy ambitions of their own http://cricket.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2019992.cms
Dude Dravid, Stop slamming reports. We don't believe words anymore. Start slamming opponent bowlers and start winning the matches from the very next one against bangladesh consistently. Then no one would believe reports like these. Take all this with a pinch of salt. Redemption for Indian cricket will come only in the form of wins and consistent performance and shaping up of new team. Not by what you speak. You can keep your animated replies to ad world! Perform or Perish! Well wisher of Indian cricket
RE:Stop slamming reports and start performing
by Suman Bhat on May 10, 2007 08:49 AM
dravid did not blame any individual player, he said it the defeat was a collective effort and took the responsiblility. string operaton reveals the opinion of seletors not the captain team won odis and test without ganguly and tendulkar under captauncy of dravid. dravid gave 100%commitment when he played under sachin and ganguly. he trusted the senior players and backfired by superstars. take out dravid's contributions to ganguly's success as a captain gan guly average will belower than sachins Dravid is handling the situation in diplomatic manner.
RE:Stop slamming reports and start performing
by Devanshu Chakravarti on May 10, 2007 03:55 PM
Dear Suman,
Stop Batting for Dravid and start batting for India. This discussion is leading nowhere! Please give some fresh ideas or quit writing! I am getting tired of this mud slinging.
RE:Indian cricket in bad shape for years!!!!
by prabhu v on May 09, 2007 11:14 PM
yeah, I agree with you, India never consistent, but we had few overseas test match and ODI wins under Wright, we had test series in WI and match in SA under Chappel, under Chappel we failed in overseas ODI...
RE:Indian cricket in bad shape for years!!!!
by manish rogi on May 09, 2007 11:25 PM
Ageing players (and no pride too) and bad selection process(out of form players continuously given chances) - all contributed India's current decline. India probably hit the bottom in 2005 - at the end of Wrigt's era.
RE:Indian cricket in bad shape for years!!!!
by Suman Bhat on May 10, 2007 08:50 AM
Except aussies no other team has consistancy in winning games/ series.
RE:Rediff will post soon another controversial article
by KC on May 09, 2007 10:17 PM
I agree and they also did not put this link in main page.... they are awaiting something conteraversiol to happen ...
This shows level of our selectors.... No player wants to under perform in world cups. This is rubbish. Capabilities of some players can be doubted but not this....
Not all selectors named Sachin and Ganguly .... Only one selector did. and attributing that to everybodys name is not fair........
Though every selector did name Chappell to be the root cause analysis. The main aim of sting operation was also to find out the cause for WC failure.
But instead of focussing on this media is highlighting just one point raised beause they know Sachin and Ganguly cannot react due to BCCI dictat and they anyways ar the soft target of public/media.
I really sympathise with them,.... and hope that they reply with their bats
RE:Mis quoting
by SUJATA CHATTERJEE on May 10, 2007 09:15 AM
KC,Yours seem to be the only sensible quote out of the lot.I hope others also give sensible statements and not just to their personal anguish & opinion over a particular player.
Rediff should have focussed this article on Chappels evil "destroy India" plan rather than other irrelevant stuff. Everyone knows this now. Greg Chappel took the chance of being the coach for India, got paid for it and conveniently detroyed India with clinical precision. And we proud Indians, who have a historic reputation for being happy to be divided even supported him and let him carry out his plan. He kicked out our most successful, aggressive captain. Interefered in all matters far and beyond his coaching assignment, created a senior - junior divide in the team. Leaked it to the press. All hell broke loose and we went from a good challeging team to being Underdogs in the Bangladesh tour. Shame on us. There has been too much dust kicked up by all that has happened so fast. It is too murky our there. We need to settle down and not make rash decisions now. This is what we should do to bring some order: Forget about world cup. Don't blame seniors. Clearly define the coaches role in his contract. Bring back John Wright.
This way, the seniors will have time to transition smoothly to youngsters and bow out with dignity. Please make this happen......
RE:Sanity Plan
by dtr on May 09, 2007 09:39 PM
Hi Renu,
What's your point? Under John Wright, India was #1? We don't want someone as coach, who just follows the Indian system of having many superstars and being inconsistent with their performance over and over again. It wouldn't breed professionalism. We hired Chappel, to do things in his own way, not based on what some stupids think what his roles should be.
Was Chappel allowed to do what he intended to do, is a different topic.
He had to interfere more, because he found the Indian cricket system too pathetic, which promotes too much individualism that clearly kills the future of Indian cricket.
RE:RE:Sanity Plan
by KC on May 09, 2007 09:50 PM
Hey DTR I totally agree with Renu , Chappell was not hired to have his way but to help Indian team win WC 2007.
Now its a known fact that Chappell was the cause of divide in team. You place same scenario in your work area, if you dont believe your colleague how can you work as team and deliver something which is expected from you......... National Selector were heard of saying "chappell did not wanted Ganguly or Sachin in team". And in public he took different stance, if he did not wanted them in team then he shuld have been bold enough to state the reasons in public.
Lets forget about this bad chapter in History and learn from this and build a new innigns.
RE:Sanity Plan
by Bharat Kumar on May 10, 2007 09:55 AM
hello kc,
Are you a jerk? Going by your own analysis, if greg didn't want sachin or ganguly in the team, then wasn't there any rationale attached to his thought process? We performed miserably and Sachin and Ganguly were struggling at the crease. The entire public went berserk. Even the indian people demanded the exit of seniors. Let me remind you- Greg wanted their exit before the world cup and the people of India were preying on their retirement, this is after tragedy struck us. Arey kabi tho akkal lagao tumlog!! Who is the greater fool? You and me or Greg Chappel? The failure of the WC is a living testimony of the idiosyncracies our men in blue depict. Still you say greg was wrong. He wanted to ptevent this catastrophe but was overpowered by stupid indian mentality. Cartoons of india, all of you...
RE:Sanity Plan
by Ramu on May 09, 2007 11:01 PM
Hey KC, I dont agree with you. Its BCCI which divided the team into grade A, B and C and paid less money to juniors even though its a team sport and each one has to contribute equally.
Tell who is the other coach who got better results than Chappel. IND team is always pathetic atleast since 1991 (i started watching cricket from then). The only good performance i remember is WC2003 (after lot of cry from public) and series draw in AUS and win in Pak.
I feel shame when IND team was celebrating their first test win in SA and first series win in WI. IND is playing cricket for more than 65 yrs.
Chappel is the one who wanted to remove non performing ganguly and sehwag saying that past records and seniority doesn't matter
RE:Sanity Plan
by KC on May 10, 2007 02:44 AM
I agree.. chappell wanted to do some good things . but for that there was no place of politics... If he could have straight that there is no place for non performers .. Indian public would have supported him ...
But he played politics, he said something in public and something else to players and something else to selectors and board.... this is not acceptable at any level, how true your intentions may be....
What we had eventualy as net result is worse than what was expected out of him.
as per performances, I also started watching cricket from 1991 WC and to me we were there in most of the finals and were winning at least 50% of time..... remmeber Shrjah , Titan Cup , Hero cup , Champions trophy ...to name a few.
RE:Sanity Plan
by Suman Bhat on May 10, 2007 08:54 AM
chappell was recommneded by ganguly and ganguly was out of team b'cuz ICC pur ban and that time his averagie odi is 10.6 was in poor form. ganguly success is b'cuz of hardwork of dravid laxman kumble sachin and sewag NOT B'CUZ OF HIS CPATICNY Give credit to other players. Dravid shaed the credit of victory with other players WHILE GANGULY took credit for victory. chappell hold mirror for drak side of ind cricket. he tired to push players from comfort zone, treated all players equal and alike and was kicked out of the ind team
RE:Sanity Plan
by SUJATA CHATTERJEE on May 10, 2007 09:24 AM
Suman, will you please stop writing you non sense? Didn't Sachin or Saurav also face the similar sitations when they took over as young captains? Don't forget we reached semifinals oa WC -03 under aggresive captainship of Saurav. It is not Chappel but people like you acting on policies of divide, in a situation when Dravid himself says that he had no problems.
RE:Sanity Plan
by SAIANAND SRINIVASAN on May 10, 2007 12:58 AM
We werent this bad under Wright, did we? We won some big important tournaments and some highlight test series under Wright. What does Chappell boast of? Few wins in Indian conditions, and a solitary test victory in West Indies which clinched the series for them!
