Everyone needs improvement but Dravid is the best available for the role of captain right now.
Ofcourse we would like to have the best wicketkeeper-batsman, bowler/s, fielders, batsmen and an inform-batsman-bornleader for captain but we have to go with what is the best available.
And this Boycott who did nothing for the team during his time but for himself shoots his mouth off like he is God. Ignore him, he is the British replica of our very own Gavaskar!
RE:Still the best available...
by Rahul nanda on May 10, 2007 06:01 AM
Dravid is the worst available....dravid ganguly and sachin are from same age group....if we need an experienced captain...then it should be Ganguly---proven leader..
if we are grooming for the future... the it should be Yuvraj singh.....
problem selectors have with yuvraj singh is not with his batting but his association with ganguly....
think of it everyone accusing ganguly to undermine dravid's captaincy and get back as captain...
will ganguly do it to yuvraj...the answer is NO.
i cant understand Y we cant get a captain...with future in mind....average...consistency and feilding..agression...yuvraj is the best....
SO WHATS THE PROBLEM..... THE ONLY WAY DRAVID,GANGULY AND SACHIN CAN EXTEND THEIR CAREER IS IF THEY ARE CAPTAIN...
DRAVID THE CAPTAIN...WILL STAND IN THE SLIPS... SO WE WILL NEVER KNOW HOW BAD HE IS AS A FEILDER...
Rahul Dravid is a great leader and communicator and an excellent human being. Sourav and Sachin didn't support him and they nurutured hopes of again becoming captain for the team and they created divisions within the team. It's a big shame that an experienced player like Vengsarkar chose a 33 year old sachin as his deputy for the world cup. He wanted to make sachin as captain. The BCCI, the selectors all ganged up and undermined rahul's captaincy by including players like sachin,sourav,yuvraj,Irfan,Agarkar[not 100% fit & not playing with commitment]in the WC team. In all the 3 games that we played in the WC, promising youngsters like dinesh kaarthick,sreesanth were not included. This is certainly the handiwork of the seniors mafia that chappel was referring to. He and dravid wanted to include fresh legs but were not allowed to so by the selectors and the seniors mafia. throw out the nonperforming, politics playing seniors and selectors, dravid certainly give superb results. Bengalis, do remember that the chappel, dravid combine was instrumental in recording a record 17 consecutive victories in chasing. Also, not long ago, ICC bestowed our captain with a medal for best captain. If we throw out politics, we can be winner in any sport. JAI HIND!
RE:Dravid is a good leader
by Rahul nanda on May 10, 2007 06:02 AM
Dravid is the worst available....dravid ganguly and sachin are from same age group....if we need an experienced captain...then it should be Ganguly---proven leader..
if we are grooming for the future... the it should be Yuvraj singh.....
problem selectors have with yuvraj singh is not with his batting but his association with ganguly....
think of it everyone accusing ganguly to undermine dravid's captaincy and get back as captain...
will ganguly do it to yuvraj...the answer is NO.
i cant understand Y we cant get a captain...with future in mind....average...consistency and feilding..agression...yuvraj is the best....
SO WHATS THE PROBLEM..... THE ONLY WAY DRAVID,GANGULY AND SACHIN CAN EXTEND THEIR CAREER IS IF THEY ARE CAPTAIN...
DRAVID THE CAPTAIN...WILL STAND IN THE SLIPS... SO WE WILL NEVER KNOW HOW BAD HE IS AS A FEILDER...
Dravid only a Batsman. He never shown any captaincy qualities. He is a bad captain after the great combination of Ganguly and Wright.
Greg reversed the Indian cricket to the Before Wright Era.. but there is Dravid part in it. He is the man who finally takes the call, even if the coach gives wrong advices. That is his duty to take decisions. Coach can only suggest alternatives.
But Dravid never took any decisions, he always followed Greg's Ideas and added some more politics to keep the seniors away.
Overall he is not fit for any Captain job anytime in his Cricketing times. Indian might have won some series under Dravid but they are attributed to some individual performances, not for a team performance. That shows how bad captain he is.
Dravid can be a great leader but certainly not for INDIAN cricket Team but in Karnataka politics ... The way he is doing politics to keep other senior mambers of the team away and save his dismal captaincy and continuously backing sehwag despite his poor run in recent time , That says it all ... Shame on Dravid ... Hail Spineless dravid and Chappel for ruining the Team India and taking them behind bangladesh in cricket rankings ... Worst show ever ...
RE:RE:Dravid the leader
by gowrish rai on May 08, 2007 11:06 AM
Mr. Roy, Well u may seem right in your comments..But dont be overtly communal jus bcoz hes from karnataka..Its an accepted fact that you bengalis are have an exaggerated fanaticsm for "heroes" from you state..When sourav went through bad patch in his own form the whole of india was crying foul except for you bengalis,..So go easy with your criticsm..coz dravid still has the potential if hes given the right time!
Dravid had his moments as captain. He cannot be held solely responsible for our poor performance on seaming wickets, where even BG batsmen were more comfortable.
Mahela is like Dravid, but he had a terrific run. Not only he, but all others backed up. In our case even the seniors, who I believe do not require much encouragement, not only failed but never seemed confident.
We have to take all these comments with a pinch of salt. I feel our capability in the wickets that we played in the WC are much poorer than the ranking we have of six, built up mostly in our featherbeds.
We have to find talent to nudge the seniors from their comfort zones. There has been no talent worthy of note recently. What we have like Dhoni, Sehwag etc flatter to deceive and have had success only in our soil.
So the problem lies in our lack of good talent and poor records on seaming wickets. We have to have fresh blood like a new and fresh Sachin, Sourav, Rahul, Kumble and going back Kapil etc who carved out our success whether in home soil or overseas.
It is futile to point out failure on individuals. Will Boycott blame only Vaughan for England failure. The sum and substance is overall, others are winners taken as a package. In our case, we just do not have the players to defeat others consistently.
Let us get out of the reverie and look at hard facts rather than short term fixes.
RE:Dravid as captain
by shiva on May 08, 2007 03:19 PM
Ghosh,
I meant lack of talent mainly about performance overseas. We have to be proved otherwise by new comers like Dhoni etc, that they can score consistently in any type of wickets. This requires good technique, which are not necessary in our friendly wickets. We are always left hoping against hope. I always wonder how SL can adapt so well, the answer should be in their sportive wickets. We should start preparing differnt types of pitches.
Australia are always winners anywhere, no matter who is leading them or where the matches are played. Gilchrist and Hayden will just blast off from the word go. See the way players like Clarke plays. Hitting balls on the middle stump anywhere. Ditto Sanath.
I feel we should take a positive approach to rebuild the team. It is getting interesting as BD and Ireland are no pushovers now. If you said twenty years back SL are WC material, you will be taken as a joke. BD has tasted Indian blood and are hungry and have no qualms in going for red meat either.
I actually included Sunil also in the list of players that we do not produce any more. His comments from the sidelines have put me off also. I feel he should get his hands dirty in the middle than action with the mouth and keyboard only. No matter what we say, he made a blast in the WI on his debut with a calypso song "he was like a wall, could not get him out at all, at all". Interestingly, he was considered a little above Boycott in the greatest opening batsmen of all time by many.
It is also interesting Boycott is commenting about captancy. He jumped up and down at being overlooked again and again for captaincy. The chairman of the selectors finally took him aside and told him. " Cool down Geoffrey, it is not than we do not want to make you captain, but the fact of the matter is, we cannot get another 10 players to play for England".That settled the matter.
I do hope that triumvarate of Sachin, Saurav and Rahul are given all chances as they can still contribute. But nobody should overstay the welcome. It should not be like Geoffrey.
RE:Dravid as captain
by Nilima Chatterji on May 09, 2007 01:06 AM
This is how some southIndians are making Mumbaites fight Bengalis. Look here article is by Shiva in name of Ghosh!
RE:Dravid as captain
by Ghosh on May 08, 2007 09:42 AM
Well, if the problem really lies in the lack of talent, then in that case , our Sunil's and Ravis's should also not complain of the captaincy. Since in there days also, they failed to deliver on bouncy wickets. And it would be just an excuse that we played on poor wickets. We can say that the West Indian needed some time to settle but in any way, all the wickets were relaid for th WC 2007. We must remember how good the wicket was in the final and how good Australia were to adjust to the dusty wickets initially. Our Sachin and Saurav's were the most shameless during WC 2007, they did not even say that they did not play well. Whatever talent we nurture should be free of influence of shameless Sunil and Ravi because they will keep on giving tips to NCA fellows on how to play on fast wickets when they themselves did not fair well on those tracks. We do not need to remind Sunil how he behaved with Denis Lillee in 1981 and Ravi's test average of 34 itself proves the point. So if we cannot keep our new talent away from these two shameless people, India cannot even think of winning overseas. As far as Dravid is concerned, his best test and one day knocks came at a time when he was not a captain. So he definitely is not a captaincy material when he has not been able to contribute with the bat as a captain. And who is Boycott to comment on Dravid. Boycott was the most selfish criketer in England and he should stop making such remarks. We do not need to tell him that he ran away from 1975-76 tour of Australia to avoid Jeff Thomson and Lillee.
RE:Dravid as captain
by dheeban chakravarthi kannan on May 08, 2007 10:19 AM
Sunil can't play fast bowling !?!? Are you talking about Sunil Shetty? Know your facts. I know for a fact that Tendulkar openly said that he takes responsibility for the team's poor showing. Shastri was one of the eleven best we could field during those days and he made maximum use of his talent. That's all I can say. I just can't understand this hatred and criticisms from people who think they know everything. This sucks. Rediff has just sensationalized this article with the heading. The context in which Boycott says this is not the way it sounds with this heading. Dravid did not contribute with the bat as captain !?!? Hello !!! This is shameless. It's okay if you think you are only saying all these things. Spare a thought for those who wind up reading it unfortunately.
RE:Dravid as captain
by avishek roy on May 08, 2007 10:40 AM
Dravid can be a great leader but certainly not for INDIAN cricket Team but in Karnataka politics ... The way he is doing politics to keep other senior mambers of the team away and save his dismal captaincy and continuously backing sehwag despite his poor run in recent time , That says it all ... Shame on Dravid ... Who says Mahela is like dravid ... did mahela tell u that ??? Hail Spineless dravid and Chappel for ruining the Team India and taking them behind bangladesh in cricket rankings ... Worst show ever ...
Rahul Dravid is a leader alright......a leader of loosers.....sore and shameless loosers....who even after their miserable loss in the W/C r on a signing spree of commercials an adds and attending press confrences and giving stupid unacceptable views as to why we performed so badly in the W/C
RE:Born leader of what
by notonecountry on May 10, 2007 07:24 AM
that is so true ..! ! no discipline, lack of respect, no inspiration, foolishness, and loads of undeserved endowments is what marks Indian cricket... who is responsible .. god only knows ..but thats how it is today
rahul dravid is not only a great batsman , he is also a player who loves to play under pressure , a real batsman who is never selfish and plays for the team and not for the records like our so called god of indian cricket sachin tendulkar and ganguly, he ll definitely be the best captain for india
RE:dravid will be the best indian captain
by on May 08, 2007 09:03 AM
Why do you love Dravid so much? Have you already forgotten Dravid's decision to declare when Sachin was 194 n.o.? If he is great captain he should not have backed Sehwag for every series.
RE:dravid will be the best indian captain
by Kart on May 08, 2007 04:30 PM
Your comment shows that personal records are important not win.Had he waited for Tendulkar's double century India would have drawn that match instead of winning it. You should be happy that we won that match rather being disappointed that Tendulkar was not allowed to score century.This is the main difference between us and other teams.Other teams play for winning while we play for records.
RE:dravid will be the best indian captain
by Rengarajan on May 09, 2007 11:05 AM
well said, mr.kart. We indians are overtly obsessed with records and not results. this is the root of all our problems.
