No one is overpaid as long as there is some one willing to pay the sum. Our players make what they deserve. Players like Sachin, Sourav, Dravid have earned it With the sweat of their brows. The others deserve lot more than what they earn. The players have earned billions of crores for BCCI. It is only fair that players should get 70% of cricket revenue.
RE:No one is overpaid
by Sameer Bhagwat on May 08, 2007 09:31 AM
By your stupid logic, your company should pay you 70% of its earnings as you have sweated it out.
It doesn't work that way dude, no employee, player is bigger that their employer. The employee works for the pleasure on the employer and not the other way around. Get it???
RE:No one is overpaid
by Sameer Bhagwat on May 08, 2007 09:36 AM
I meant.. By your stupid logic, your company should pay you 70% of its earnings as you have sweated it out.
It doesn't work that way dude, no employee, player is bigger than their employer. The employee works for the pleasure of the employer and not the other way around. Get it???
RE:No one is overpaid
by azeem sheikh on May 08, 2007 12:48 PM
My friend, BCCI has 27 state organization under it. so it needs money to improve cricket in all states. Pls dont forget the BCCI offers. nobody is bother to look at it. BCCI is offering players whopping sum as bonus if they WIN...!!! if players are argue abt it, thn its clear tht they dont have guts to win match make more money. They jus want money for playing for india not for winning matches.
Who made the BCCI so rich, the players or officials? Money is flowing into BCCI coffers because (whether you like or not) the players are marketable. If the players are not performing well, then drop them but why restrict the number of endorsements? It is perfectly OK to say that they players cannot do endorsement during a series but to put a limit on the number of endorsements is ludicrous.When BCCI can earn hundreds of crores why deny the players the opportunity to learn? If BCCI thinks that by restricting the number of endorsements, the performance of team will improve then it is not going to happen. The team performance will only improve if the organization that is behind is run professionally and not by taking some arbitrary decision. Nothing has changed despite the WC loss, they chopped a few players here and there but as far as the BCCI's working style goes, it is the same old organization. Get rid of these honorary positions and appoint a full time paid CEO (like ECB or Aus Cricket).
I think a lot of problems happens because of speculations. BCCI has almost all honarary members, so is the case with the selection committee, but all the meetings happens within closed doors and media is only briefed about this. Why so much secrecy, this is no national security issue, this is also not so called business strategising issue which is hidden from the competitors as BCCI does not have any. The main benifit of this would be it would end all speculations. Also then no one could openly force bias in any form either for selection or anything else without any solid reason or logic behind this. People might argue this does not happen in other boards, but then other teams perform and India does not, in spite of being the most sort after sport. India has to do something different to come out of the mud they are into.
BCCI has always been a Feudal organization and they don't seem to believe in democracy and other's views. Trying to arm twist the players when they are not so popular (it shows in the message board) is simply mean. This is not the way to build trust with the player's. And this is irrespective of whether the player is senior or junior. If player's think justice has been done to them, that will lessen the tension in player's mind and they can play without worrying about their financial interest. I would like to call all the "Saints" in this message board who are castigating the players for being money minded. Would any of these "Saints" be ready to work for their country for free? You take the example of Australia cricket. They have a player's representative body which takes up all player issues with the board and the players can play without any disturbance. But in India BCCI would not allow to form such a body and think that to be their rival. In reality they can be partners and can work towards betterment of the game in India. Lot of people have apprehension about player's being paid well. Lets compare with the best in another field "management" in the country. How much do the top IIM grads earn? It's a lot. Are they overpaid? Yes, maybe. Same for the cricketers. But they deserve it because they have to be best in the country to even reach there. On the other hand an IIM grad can keep on earning easily till 60 (and pay packets get fatter) whereas cicketer's start retiring at the age of 35 and the most they can carry till is 38/39. Yes, there can be some limits on how much add player do like 1) No adds for 15 days before a tournament (no BCCI adds either). 2) A restriction on number of days they can do personal adds (like 40 or 50 days).
To cool... no no ... to divert the attention of cricket fans, now the media has adopted the strategy of writing something far and against BCCI and Players.
Shamless BCCI members and players should quit for the humiliating world cup defeat.
BCCI should be more transperant. Players should prove themselves, whether senior or junior. There should be a point system for evaluating players' performance. If they achieve the required point level, then only they should be selected for next match, be it Tendulkar or a brand new youngster. Let media give some useful suggestion.
RE:fire current BCCI staff
by Dr.V.T. Jadhav MD (Radiology) on May 07, 2007 07:17 PM
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Indian cricket team,BCCI,ICC are only money makers. Indian cricketers are not playing for India,They are playing for money and for their family. because no one cricker can say when he achieved a goal"its for India;but they say its for my wife,family......etc". BCCI not paid money for players(as per media reports),players ready for strike.Is all the players are poor to do this. BCCI,Indian Team,ICC all are one monarchy like gandhian family rules india. Whatever it is BCCI slects players,pays for them,gets from them......but WE,THE PEOPLE OF INDIA ALWAYS PAYING OUR TAX.SO,BE SIMPLE AND CALM. SIMPLY DISCUSSING THE MATTER IS NOT GOOD FOR NATIONS HEALTH.
politician take decisions for the vote bank( be it reservation,..etc) . when they at the helm of bcci they continue to do the same. Evrybody agreed tht we sent our best team for the wcup and they failed. Now BCCI who is the real culprit of talent-crunch(with poor domestic cric structure) turned heros by coming hard on the players. Public is happy !! Everyone claps BCCI!! .. this is polictics at its best!!
I am with the players. They should bycott even the Bangladesh Series.
BCCI is earning beacuse of these players only.
Not only BCCI - as per Nimbus Spokesman the 70% of total revenue in World Cricket is because of Indian players (the current stars).
If they boycott and do not play - BCCI will have their treasury down to even less than 50% of what it is now.
The players are fully justified in asking the money.
The players of any other country are not in a position to ask money from their respective boards because they do not add to the their boards KITTY as much as INDIAN Players do
RE:Players vs BCCI -- so what's new ?
by reformer on May 07, 2007 06:05 PM
Guys check ur facts first. Aussie players get half the the money what indian players get. Pls refer Economic times report somewhere around 2 week back. BCCI being richest in world, pays very heavy amount to players. So players are greedy not BCCI. Check ur neighbour country.. Shri lanka. They do fanatstically well in matches. till 2 yrs back, half of the team used to come for net practice on bike(2 wheeler).
Unnecesasarily We have made these players Hero. So even after a shameful exit from World Cup, they are crying for money. BCCI should take tough stand. If they are not ready, kick them out.get new players. With nmew players, we may loose, so what are we going to win with these old age guys?
If They have so concern about money then at the same time, they should have concern for performance.
As long as there are idiots who praise them, considers therir past performance as a service to this big nation, these players won't improve. Its really irritating now. thank god, we didn't win the wordcup. otherwise,what these fans might have done?
and one more point, these players don't add money to the board. The people, like you and me, who watch these matches, actually add money.Because of us only, adverizers/sponserors pay huge money, which in turn BCCI gets.
RE:Players vs BCCI -- so what's new ?
by Indian Mallu on May 07, 2007 06:12 PM
"BCCI should take tough stand. If they are not ready, kick them out.get new players. With nmew players, we may loose, so what are we going to win with these old age guys? "
I agree ..
But who is going to lose then? Old players already earned enough money and the new players cant earn becasuse of the costraints put by bcci.. and I feel with current BCCI , the diffenece amt will go to NCP fund.
RE:Players vs BCCI -- so what's new ?
by Krishna on May 07, 2007 06:14 PM
Boss. i don't know abt aus. i don't care either. i cannot imagine what problems they may be facing from their boards. lets talk abt our board. i am not saying thet they should be given bonus or more money etc. u read my statements properly. what i said is that they should be paid in any case whether they win or loose. But how much? Fix some basic value. Give more money if they win else don't give. But in any case give the basic. If everything goes as per ur logic, then no one in this country in whatever job they are in may not get salary. These players are not paid for some time. and now they are also reducing the package, which never happens in any kind of job. Whether anyone likes it or not the truth is EVERYONE DOES THINGS ONLY FOR MONEY. U AND ME INCLUDED. Don't blame them as we are also working for our money. we studied for doing job to earn money. There is absolutely no other reason. Everything else partiotism, love for copuntry, loyality anything and everything comes next. And u knwo what, there is nothing wrong in that.
RE:Players vs BCCI -- so what's new ?
by riyfkm on May 07, 2007 06:21 PM
60000 for each domestic cricket played, 1.5 for international match even if lost appart from 5 L salary upto 3 endrosments.... isn;t that sufficient???
RE:Players vs BCCI -- so what's new ?
by Indian Mallu on May 07, 2007 06:33 PM
Not enough!! think big! BCCI is the richest cric body. but even now,our players go and play county cricet . BCCI with its huge money backup should be able to build domestic cric where even international cricters are participated. Ofcourse with huge price money and sponcership .. that wht happens in premier league football matches in european countries .
RE:Players vs BCCI -- so what's new ?
by Krishna on May 07, 2007 06:42 PM
Even a not so clever software engineer can earn more than that. my friend, don't calculate keeping sachin/sorav in mind. Think of an averge cricketer who doesn't get as many games and ads. and who knows when their career is going to end. think in their shoes. they toil so hard and there will be so much competition that there will always be many people linesd up to replace. everyone except 3-4 people don't know how long they can play. If the game has to be popularised, if the game has to be continued to be played as a career option, then it has to be lucrative. BCCI has become so big because of players. People come to statiums to watch crickerets play, not to see BCCI officials. if u bring down these players by playing on their interests, nothing will happen to u and me, the players abd the BCCI are the obvious loosers. How many people go and watch hockey. btw, how many people knwo that currently india is playing in Sultan Azlanshah Cup Hockey tournament? Very soon crciketr will also go the same way.
RE:Players vs BCCI -- so what's new ?
by dtr on May 08, 2007 12:15 AM
Hi Krishna, Even a construction worker work harder than cricket players. So what do they earn?
Agree that cricket should be seen as carrier option, nothing wrong in it, it also helps breed professionalism. But the problem here is not just about money.These freaks earns money but act like amateurs. There has to be more streamlined procedure for selection, statistics should play only minor role. These freaks lack chracter.
RE:Players vs BCCI -- so what's new ?
by sunil pradhan on May 07, 2007 06:44 PM
I bet if our some bollywood heroines play cricket they can earn as much as revenue our india players earning.
RE:Players vs BCCI -- so what's new ?
by Krishna on May 07, 2007 05:59 PM
U r right. Why players have struggled so hard all throuh their childhood keeping the studies a side, obviously to make a career out of it. They are not here for charity or for social service. They are entitled to get their money for the efforts they put. And they have to be paid for the effort, not the result. In no job the employer can decide to pay the employee or not based on the result. Some portion is performance based and some portion has to be paid default. The results should be honoured with prize money or in the form of awards. It is irony that BCCI has not paid the cricketers for the last six months or more. i don't know the truth in this. but if it is tru, then it is absolutely unethical. If this is the attitude of the people who run the game in this country, soon we will be out of ICC as well. Cricket will go Hockey way. I suggest the central govt has to take the entire control of BCCI and the members should be appointed by the govt itself under strict guidelines. Their performance also has to be taken into account and they also should be paid monthly. The govt has to see that BCCI runs cricket in india in a more professional way.
Here the question is the attitude of BCCI towards its "bread and butter earners". First of all one should admit that because of some stupendous and individual performance of cricketers, Indian criket reaches today's glory. We should learn to take defeat and win in sporting terminology. People start accusing players for their fame/money,etc which is not good. Ofcourse we should criticize for their non-performance. Tendulkar, Ganguly or Dravid started playing cricket because they loved the game--- from child hood and had extra talent. They never thought that this kind of big money is waiting for them. This came on the way of their "good individual performance". If everybody from BCCI to sponsors/media make money, why not them. We should never feel jealous of some deserved players becoming famous and rich. People talk about other games/sports, yes we should promote it, but not at the cost of cricket which is making money. BCCI, at the time of promoting cricket, should give away or help other sporting organizations to develop other Indian sports (not by giving less importance to cricket), otherwise where the money is going to come. Here, we have a game which is very popular money making, promote it and make use of its financial power to other sports. Good Luck to genious/talented cricket players and let them make India proud. Mohan, Pune.
