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shutup
RE:Message to Anti-Bengalis
by shutup on Mar 31, 2007 03:24 PM
WELL said ..i m with you ... They are simply jelous.. So where rahul Dravid has taken indian team now?? if He had guts and little bit of shame he should ve resigned on that day itself wen we lost to Srilanka.He has lost his dignity . He should ve followed INZAMAM .. He is the Capatin so he has to take the responsibility. He has even failed to score a god avg in the tournament ..and still he wanmts to stay as the captain.. SHAME on rahul and his follower..LOSERS

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Thank you rediff for taking prompt action
by TwoWords on Mar 31, 2007 02:53 PM

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deven mehta
Early exit from World Cup 2007
by deven mehta on Mar 31, 2007 01:17 PM

Defeat from Bangladesh, then from Sri Lanka and it is out from the race of Word Cup 2007 worst ever situation after 1979. India ornamented with so called world class batsman could not sustain for even allotted 50 Overs, in match with Sri Lanka, what a mockery.

Indian cricket lovers can think many bitter episodes and planned chopping of its organ so that India should not come as contender in the World Cup.

Plan No. 1
Target the person who is commander of Indian winning expedition, i.e. Sourav Ganguly. Unfortunately Ganguly was passing through bad batting form and his record was too poor, controversies were created and he was shunted out with big humiliation, so that he should not be in position or dare to come back as an asset for Indian team, fortunately for India and unfortunately for Kiran More %u2013 Greg Chappell duo team that Ganguly could retaliate with his performance, which is very rare in the cricketing history and if our cricket lovers refresh their memory and go to just few months back, even cricket legends like Kapil Dev, Ajit Wadekar etc. had advised Ganguly to give up to avoid further humiliation. A player like Ganguly was inside the squad but not included in the final team and used as extra player. Bad phases are part of every player as presently it is with our great batsman Virendra Shewag, the player may be dropped and may not to be included till he comes back to his potential form and these are the regular part of the selection and game, but why the controversy and humiliation and then subsequent drop. Controversy and subsequent humiliation was an attempt to demolish the asset of India i.e. Ganguly who had promoted and nurtured many talents during his captaincy, and to communicate a loud and clear message to all the new players that we duo are the supreme and players should be ready to face dire consequences if they dare to bring the truth (one can recollect the warning to Harbhajan Singh etc.). When Ganguly was dropped our cricket lovers may go through the performance of Ganguly and Tendulkar for last 25 matches both in ODI and Tests (the date from which the Ganguly was dropped), one can compare the performance of both and would find that record of both the players be it strike rate, average etc. etc. were more or less equal, rather Ganguly was better by inches, but both were dismally poor but then why only Ganguly was dropped. I am an ardent fan of Tendulkar, his contribution is matchless so my interoperation should not be taken wrongly. What I want say that the drop of Ganguly with humiliation, especially when he had one asset with him that his character of aggressiveness, which was the asset for Indian Team was not justified, even he had to be dropped than why not gracefully so that wrong message should not go to player and whole world. Yes, Ganguly is also a player like others, and he should be dropped if he is not useful in the present context, but with clear message that your doors are not closed forever provided you prove yourself again as an asset for the country. But it was something unusual that Kiran More told that till he is there his doors are closed forever or in the other word he spread his message that he is the dictator and supreme authority and right to go against the interest of country. What a mentality (or the obvious reason behind such demolition) of Kiran More and what a tolerability of BCCI (provided there is no other intention) and in general country people and cricket lovers, who could digest such huge loss so far the pride of country is concerned. There may be differences in opinion but nobody can be bigger than country%u2019s pride and at least a person like Kiran More. After all it is not personal fight, all the activities are for country i.e. 110 Crores citizens, it is neither the personal Bed Room of Kiran More where he has right not to allow Ganguly to enter or nor is the Ganguly%u2019s courtyard that he would not touch the bat till Kiran More is there. The whole matter was quite disgusting. Apart from this it is difficult to digest that a player like Kiran More was judge for evaluating the performance of world-class great batsman Sachin Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid. VVS Laxman etc. and world-class bowler like Kumble, Harbhajan etc. Any cricket lover of his generation (I am from this generation) knows very well about his contribution for our country and the new generation can go through the Videos available or at least the statistics available in websites or elsewhere. I do agree that Ganguly and More has right to fight, wrestle or anything they want but those should at their personal life, outside the cricketing affair and must be once the cricket life of Ganguly finishes, at that time probably it would be their personal affairs.

Plan No. 2
Involve a person in the controversy, is also an asset for the country and should be little cool and must not a strategist and shrewd. It is ironical that the duo choose (or lured) Rahul Dravid, a cool person, through gentleman, do not involve in dirty politics, may not understand their dirty, as sacrificial goat, so that if someone in future try to rectify these wrong motives must loose (i.e. moral of Dravid) something vital. Everyone know that Ganguly is shrewd, a complicated person and absolutely not simple like Dravid, and it also true that these are assets so far the captaincy and competency is concerned required to compete in world cricket.

I strongly feel that BCCI should investigate the matter through some agencies capable to investigate such matter deeply, where Kiran More being an Indian indulges in such heinous acts, which is now irreparable. Rather I plea to the President Mr. Sharad Pawar to initiate actions to uncover the truth. BCCI should also investigate the acts Greg Chappell also as to why he dumped the interest of country (for which he is being paid) and preferred his own interests (or the interest of others), ego etc. etc. If there could be possibilities for match fixing, then a why phenomenon of country fixing for a particular period is not possible and can not emerge as new way, after all it is the era of innovation, be it bad (good for someone) or bad.

BCCI should introspect about the appointment of Greg Chappell with such huge remuneration, the consequences thereof (forget about the result) and with what object he was appointed i.e. World Cup. Is nobody in India was that capable, when we have retired world-class players?

Can one think some sort of country fixing (instead of match fixing) to wipe India from Word Cup?

Indian people (especially the people living in that city) should asked Kiran More personally and in detail about his all such nuisance acts, for which India had to pay such heavy cost.

An Indian


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An Indian
Cricket Lover! Kindly recollect the sequence of events and analyse?
by An Indian on Mar 31, 2007 01:05 PM

Defeat from Bangladesh, then from Sri Lanka and it is out from the race of Word Cup 2007 worst ever situation after 1979. India ornamented with so called world class batsman could not sustain for even allotted 50 Overs, in match with Sri Lanka, what a mockery.

Indian cricket lovers can think many bitter episodes and planned chopping of its organ so that India should not come as contender in the World Cup.

Plan No. 1
Target the person who is commander of Indian winning expedition, i.e. Sourav Ganguly. Unfortunately Ganguly was passing through bad batting form and his record was too poor, controversies were created and he was shunted out with big humiliation, so that he should not be in position or dare to come back as an asset for Indian team, fortunately for India and unfortunately for Kiran More %u2013 Greg Chappell duo team that Ganguly could retaliate with his performance, which is very rare in the cricketing history and if our cricket lovers refresh their memory and go to just few months back, even cricket legends like Kapil Dev, Ajit Wadekar etc. had advised Ganguly to give up to avoid further humiliation. A player like Ganguly was inside the squad but not included in the final team and used as extra player. Bad phases are part of every player as presently it is with our great batsman Virendra Shewag, the player may be dropped and may not to be included till he comes back to his potential form and these are the regular part of the selection and game, but why the controversy and humiliation and then subsequent drop. Controversy and subsequent humiliation was an attempt to demolish the asset of India i.e. Ganguly who had promoted and nurtured many talents during his captaincy, and to communicate a loud and clear message to all the new players that we duo are the supreme and players should be ready to face dire consequences if they dare to bring the truth (one can recollect the warning to Harbhajan Singh etc.). When Ganguly was dropped our cricket lovers may go through the performance of Ganguly and Tendulkar for last 25 matches both in ODI and Tests (the date from which the Ganguly was dropped), one can compare the performance of both and would find that record of both the players be it strike rate, average etc. etc. were more or less equal, rather Ganguly was better by inches, but both were dismally poor but then why only Ganguly was dropped. I am an ardent fan of Tendulkar, his contribution is matchless so my interoperation should not be taken wrongly. What I want say that the drop of Ganguly with humiliation, especially when he had one asset with him that his character of aggressiveness, which was the asset for Indian Team was not justified, even he had to be dropped than why not gracefully so that wrong message should not go to player and whole world. Yes, Ganguly is also a player like others, and he should be dropped if he is not useful in the present context, but with clear message that your doors are not closed forever provided you prove yourself again as an asset for the country. But it was something unusual that Kiran More told that till he is there his doors are closed forever or in the other word he spread his message that he is the dictator and supreme authority and right to go against the interest of country. What a mentality (or the obvious reason behind such demolition) of Kiran More and what a tolerability of BCCI (provided there is no other intention) and in general country people and cricket lovers, who could digest such huge loss so far the pride of country is concerned. There may be differences in opinion but nobody can be bigger than country%u2019s pride and at least a person like Kiran More. After all it is not personal fight, all the activities are for country i.e. 110 Crores citizens, it is neither the personal Bed Room of Kiran More where he has right not to allow Ganguly to enter or nor is the Ganguly%u2019s courtyard that he would not touch the bat till Kiran More is there. The whole matter was quite disgusting. Apart from this it is difficult to digest that a player like Kiran More was judge for evaluating the performance of world-class great batsman Sachin Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid. VVS Laxman etc. and world-class bowler like Kumble, Harbhajan etc. Any cricket lover of his generation (I am from this generation) knows very well about his contribution for our country and the new generation can go through the Videos available or at least the statistics available in websites or elsewhere. I do agree that Ganguly and More has right to fight, wrestle or anything they want but those should at their personal life, outside the cricketing affair and must be once the cricket life of Ganguly finishes, at that time probably it would be their personal affairs.

Plan No. 2
Involve a person in the controversy, is also an asset for the country and should be little cool and must not a strategist and shrewd. It is ironical that the duo choose (or lured) Rahul Dravid, a cool person, through gentleman, do not involve in dirty politics, may not understand their dirty, as sacrificial goat, so that if someone in future try to rectify these wrong motives must loose (i.e. moral of Dravid) something vital. Everyone know that Ganguly is shrewd, a complicated person and absolutely not simple like Dravid, and it also true that these are assets so far the captaincy and competency is concerned required to compete in world cricket.

I strongly feel that BCCI should investigate the matter through some agencies capable to investigate such matter deeply, where Kiran More being an Indian indulges in such heinous acts, which is now irreparable. Rather I plea to the President Mr. Sharad Pawar to initiate actions to uncover the truth. BCCI should also investigate the acts Greg Chappell also as to why he dumped the interest of country (for which he is being paid) and preferred his own interests (or the interest of others), ego etc. etc. If there could be possibilities for match fixing, then a why phenomenon of country fixing for a particular period is not possible and can not emerge as new way, after all it is the era of innovation, be it bad (good for someone) or bad.

BCCI should introspect about the appointment of Greg Chappell with such huge remuneration, the consequences thereof (forget about the result) and with what object he was appointed i.e. World Cup. Is nobody in India was that capable, when we have retired world-class players?

Can one think some sort of country fixing (instead of match fixing) to wipe India from Word Cup?

Indian people (especially the people living in that city) should asked Kiran More personally and in detail about his all such nuisance acts, for which India had to pay such heavy cost.

An Indian


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execute
don't Blame ganguly alone
by execute on Mar 31, 2007 12:51 PM

This is the problem of all Indian players and ganguly is one of them. most of the Indian players play for himself.they want to put 50 or 100 in front of their names, how much balls they played does not matter and selectors select them on the basis of their 50-100 and not how much ball they played to reach their 50-100.this is the reason India failed to win big tournament, they win one to one matches but not complete tournament.

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Priya Pillai
must be selfish
by Priya Pillai on Mar 31, 2007 12:40 PM  | Hide replies

every body shud play selfish game..
Ganguly payed for him, ...

If everybody in Our team played for atleast them self(same as ganguly did) Indian team would have reached finals very easily..



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sudipta Das
RE:must be selfish
by sudipta Das on Mar 31, 2007 03:39 PM
well said Priya.
Hope this common sense would hv prevailed in others who are willing to put the blame on Ganguly. This is really shameful on all of us that till now we are yet to realise that Ganguly should hv been made the captain before the team left our country. We needed a bold and aggressive Captain like him and not a lamb like Rahul Dravid. And due respect to the cricketing talent of Chappel, he should have gone back to his country by this time after this humiliating defeat of Indian Team in the World cup. I don't know what excuses he needs to give to prove himself.

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pent
RE:
by pent on Apr 01, 2007 04:36 PM
i would never think that chappel got the team he asked for anyways. the only mistake he did was have too much faith in Kaif and Yuvraj( maybe because these are the only 2 that got at least 25% talent), but he failed to realize kaif can never be jonty rhodes and Yuvaraj cannot be symmonds.

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clev
RE:must be selfish
by clev on Mar 31, 2007 03:31 PM
yes if every one play for himself and play like ganguly india will manage to score only 150 form 50 overs ....i think with that score even bermuda would have defeated us...ganguly is stupid, selfish player...

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Jas Sand
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by Jas Sand on Apr 02, 2007 10:06 AM
Playing selfishly is better than not playing at all - Sscoring a slow fifty is far better than scoring a fast 15!

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