12/11/06 NatWest Final Against England At Lords 2002. I read this story about Sachin Tendulkar in Cricket Samarat[Hindi Version]- 'Mano Ya Na Mano Column'.
India were chasing 326 runs and were 146-5 at one stage.. from here Yuvraj and Kaif together started to built a partnership which led to India's historic win at Lords.. The Indian Team watching the match from the famous Lord's Balcony.. During Kaif and Yuvraj's Partnership.. Ganguly asked one of the team member for a jacket because he was feeling little cold..At that moment Sachin stopped that member from bringing a jakect for Saurav Ganguly.. He simply said..No one will move from his place and everyone stay where ever they are and just watch the match till it ends.[Sachin is little superstitious as we all know]..And guess what..Ganguly watched the whole match without any jacket or pullover..and did not opposed to Sachin's view.. Because both of them wanted to Win.. This is what we call Team Man!!! Desperately wanted to win.. no matter in which manner.. With Bat or Bowl or Fielder or Superstitions.. What really means to him is winning the Match for INDIA.
RE:Sachin's commitment2
by silverline on Jun 16, 2007 02:44 PM
bull shit with the superstitious philospy, If this is the case may be who knows all players should avoid sex with there wifes to get in good stamina and win cricket matches for india sachin are you hearing
RE:Sachin's commitment2
by Krishna Prasadh on Jun 16, 2007 11:37 AM
WHAT THE HECK ???? Somebody has to bring Jacket to Ganguly.. why he cannot go and take it ? no wonder, everyone made him princess and he acted like one.. ridiculous...
RE:Sachin's commitment2
by ramachandran nair on Jun 16, 2007 04:35 PM
Hi krishna, it is the prerogative of the captain to call for a jacket or anything he wants at any given time. Such a facility is bestowed upon him. for your information, he is not just acting as a prince. he is a prince as such and not like the spineless captain that we have now.
Probably next in line to be injured are Ishanth, R P Singh and Bose. Zaheer, Sreesanth are already carrying niggling injuries. At this rate India will need at least 25 bowlers in reserve.
Good to hear a new young bowler being given a chance. The need is to search identify and try more such players. When it comes to fast bowling, its tough ask. Bowling fast is not very good physical exercise, it tears lot many ligaments and muscles. This reason you find genunine fast bowlers picking up injuries very often. The need is to support such bowlers and put them in team when ever they recover from injury. Munaf is real good fast bowler. Wish him speedy recovery as he in good form makes difference to Indian out look significantly. Comming back to topic, Even more important that fst bowlers be young as at this age the injuries gets healed fast. Definitly you cannot rely on one lone fast bowler to be playing every match. Time to put emphasis in recognising new younger bowlers. When call a bowler fast atleast set a reasonable speed limit that he must be capble of bowling consistantly at or over 140 Kmph. Most of the fast bowlers we have now mearly reach there. Munaf and VRV and Zaheer are presently fit to be called bowling fast. Indian Team need a pool of fast bowlers, and any one could be put to play whenever needed. This is feild our selectors are found not doing enough. Its understood that they have no new batsman to try in the presence of existing set of batman. But they seem not doing enough when it come to selection of fast bowlers. Agarkar is no fast now and his selection based on arguments of swing and control is biased regionally.
RE:Fast Bowlers
by Tarun Ahuja on Jun 16, 2007 03:25 AM
Hey can anyone tell me what happened to Balaji The guy who made his name during the pak tour a couple of years back had an injury and seems to have totally vanished since? Cheers
RE:Fast Bowlers
by Nilima Chatterji on Jun 16, 2007 03:33 AM
Munaaf is best bowler but is injured most of the time. Zahir and Agarkar are the best among lot(Best bowling average if taken over complete 2006-2007) . Agarkar is still fastest we have (around 134 avg). Randeb bose and Ishant Sharma should learn from these guys as much as they could. I think media is hyping each decision a lot whichever ways it goes. I do not think there has been any regional bia in this team selection.
RE:Fast Bowlers
by Crick fan on Jun 16, 2007 02:06 AM
Hope in England the swing will help Agarkar, and if it doesnt. He will look bad and will effect Indian prospects as he is ure to be in playing 11.
As long as King Zaheer is in the team this guy Ishant can never crack the playing 11. The BCCI is indebted to Zaheer Khan and his family. So let Zaheer retire and we can play Ishant Sharma or verma whoever he is.
and this is my prophecy: Ishant Sharma will shine in a couple of international seasons, but thanks to our dead pitches (the BCCI is still working on a plan to make them lively, my ar#e!, while making millions and forever squibbling over foreign coach-domestic coach issues) and lack of a proper physio-cum-trainer, Ishant will face injuries, plus, demoralising overseas tours, when batsmen used to lively bowling will spank him all around, and then he will find his way out - I hope it does not happen, but, by all means, based on whats been happening to Indian 'fast' bowlers, this is most likely to happen! the way things are moving, Indian cricket is fast turning into something like our trashy, mediocre Bollywood, ruled by useless duds hell-bent on making money than giving quality
RE:Prophecy
by Shahenshah on Jun 16, 2007 01:14 AM
Reddy - I never claimed it is all fixed - it used to be that way during the mid and late 90s - but now, it is just a matter of profound unprofessionalism hounding Indian sport - take for example this entire coach selection episode - it is such a disgrace, we chose someone like Greg Chappell and then when things dont go our way, men like Gavaskar are against hiring Aussies for coaches - we want good coaches, but they dont have a right to question our attitudes, yet we will fail and still noone takes the blame/responsibility! this is some joke
where do I start ? hmm - Vivek Razdan (he was quick and rated high by Allan Border then in the early 1990s, but thanks to one Mr.Bishan Singh Bedi, Razdan was a complete burnout during a New Zealand tour), Subroto Banerjee, Atul Wassan (most athletic and fit looking bowler I have seen), Salil Ankola, David Johnson (this dude from Bangalore, played in two series or so, and was content with the money he made and decided not to stretch himself any further - his short-pitched bowling was both his speciality and undoing!), Dodda Ganesh (shooting star, now-you-see-now-you-dont), Debashish Mohanty (genuine swing bowler, but a dummy on drier, flatter conditions, and then came the self-destructive full toss/long hop and his career was over, just when it started to blossom), Abey Kuruvilla (Mumbai boy, did well in his debut series, but not to be seen later), two shooting stars, viz., Tinu Yohanan (from Kerala ?), T.Kumaran (from Chennai), Ashish Nehra (most injury prone bowler even at his prime - he had ankles made of paper and sawdust), L.Balaji (Pakistan specialist, good only against Pakistant, forever recovering from some injury), Irfan Pathan (lethal 3 years ago, but now, huffs-n-puffs like a grandpa, to even get his natural rhythm) - there are other names I cant recall offhand, but the bottomline is this: WE JUST DO NOT PICK BOWLERS AND GROOM THEM FOR THE LONG RUN - and this is my prophecy: Ishant Sharma will shine in a couple of international seasons, but thanks to our dead pitch
RE:Endless list of potentially talented rookies - but alas!
by babi ati on Jun 16, 2007 12:56 AM
Shaenshah,it is a very comprehensive list you produced there. One thing our selectors don't do but often talk about is 'horses for courses'. For example, Mohanty is an ideal bowler for English and NZ conditions and same goes with Nehra. Also, I don't understand this obsession for raw pace. It is not necessay to have every body bowl fast. Just look at McGrath? Even in his geriatric days he was a killer bowler. The problem is we do not have strike bowlers. Spin is another department. Why in the world can't we produce good spinners considering that it is our strong point and the wickets, by accident, are conducive. Is it because the focus is now pace and only pace? It is a shame that most other teams have great spinners (Murali, Warne, Panesar, Vettori,Kaneria) but India is barren. I know..I know Kumble is there but we need someone in the mold of Warne and Murali.
RE:Endless list of potentially talented rookies - but alas!
by Shahenshah on Jun 16, 2007 01:33 AM
so whats the solution ? I can only think of one: give the team's management to the Indian Army - let them bring in/enforice fiscal, physical and other related disciplines into the cricket administration and the game - we can have a bunch of ex-cricketers giving them advice on selection and cricket-playing related issues - only then we may see positive results - just think of the HUGE gap that will be left, once Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly retire (thats gonna happen in less than 2-4 years from now) - our bench strength even in BATTING is so weak that, it is scary - one good thing to happen is the floating of an alternate cricket league by Zee - something similar happened when Kerry Packer announced his rebel series in Australia and the level of professionalish went UP several notches then! perhaps, now private groups like Zee will bring in quality pitches and then the quality of our game will improve consistently
RE:Endless list of potentially talented rookies - but alas!
by Ajay Parekh on Jun 16, 2007 01:25 AM
i would add one waste of talent, Laxmi Ratan Shukla (who bowled well alongwith Srinath with veterans Kapil and Prabhakar in Ausie in 1992)
RE:Endless list of potentially talented rookies - but alas!
by manoj bhaskaran on Jul 16, 2007 08:50 PM
well said. Ishant should be nurtured and groomed for the future.He can become indian Mc grath.
RE:Endless list of potentially talented rookies - but alas!
by Hari on Jun 16, 2007 12:53 AM
How very true. You must add Raju Kulkarni as in the mid 80's he was genuinely quick. All these bowlers had no guidance from seniors as there were no genuine pace bowlers before them. To top it all encouragement to bowl fast was restricted by coaches and selectors who chose 1 or 2 med.pace bowlers in the final team.
RE:Endless list of potentially talented rookies - but alas!
by alan campbell on Jun 19, 2007 08:05 PM
The problem was not guidance from lack of former fast bowlers but the indian media who do not know cricket and push the virtues of medium pacers over fast bowlers and the gullible indian fans believe the media. The bowlers who suffered besides Raju Kulkarni were T A Shekar and Prashant Vaidya. Shekar in the only test he played was faster than Kapil and the Pak media were surprised that Madan lal was played in all matches instead of him. In the next tour Shekar was dropped for Madan Lal. Shekar, Vaidya and Kulkarni used to be the highest wicket takers in Ranji. Kulkarni at age 20 took 35 wickets in 1st 4 ranji matches he played. We see similar thing now that VRV the only Genuine pacer (though not as successful as the Shekar & co.) is dropped to accomodate medium pacers and press is proposing it.
Indians have a chronic bad habit of going gaga over before happening. It was Whatmore, then Ford and now Ishaan. He may be very good talent but leave him alone, let him pwerform and then let the performance speak.
RE:Ishaan Sharma
by stephen black on Jun 16, 2007 12:41 AM
Chiranjeevi the monkey dance expert of telugu film industry, you should know that pakistan was a part of India, was punjabi dominant and centuries ago lots of people were converted to Islam during multiple agrresions from the bordering Arab countries. Pakistan has Punjabi and non-punjabi muslims and India has majorly Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs but yes people do look similar and its not easy especially for Dumb ass guys like you who want to disintegrate the country on Regional lines......Jai Bharat
RE:Ishaan Sharma
by zeeshan ahmad on Jun 16, 2007 11:50 AM
yaar agaer pakistani hai tab achchi bowling karega . this is no secret in pace pak has always have world class bowlers
RE:Ishaan Sharma
by puppala babu on Jun 15, 2007 11:16 PM
Media is doing all this stuff.Really killing the budding stars by putting unnecessary pressure on young guys. About VRV,i think they gave enough chances even he is not performing at First class level.Dirty politics of cricket
RE:He is not the fastest,,,,AGARKAR Is
by stephen black on Jun 16, 2007 12:50 AM
And you a mentally deranged Tel-mein-guu. Coz ur are an outcast from telugus who are educated and sensible. D o not try to screwup the country on regional lines.
