WELL LORDS TEST IS OVER BY THE GRACE OF LORD BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT ONE .INDIAN PLAYERS SHOULD BE READY TO FACE FLINTOFF AS MOST PROBABLY HE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAY.WE CANT REMOVE SACHIN , SOURAV ,OR DRAVID BUT CAN BCCI CREATE NEW S,S,D RESPECTIVELY???.
I am extremely surprise with the way how our cricket fans react and comment on Indian cricket & Cricketers?.Lets get your objectives straight before you guys comment
1. Do you guys want Sachin/Ganguly/Dravid to be Replaced? 2. Are you guys jealous of Saching/Dravid/Ganguly making money? 3. Do you guys want youngsters like Raina/ Kaif/Gambhir to be in the Team? 4. Do you guys want India to win matches or Draw if not win or not lose many instead of all.
RE:What Indian Fans Want?
by Raman sSubramanya on Jul 25, 2007 09:35 AM
My dear Nandu
First of all we are not jealous of anybody making money.
Next, those who perform consistently should be in the team and not on past heroics.
In every sport there is a age limit and fitness level. Players who have played Test Cricket more than 15 years would have certainly lost their bearings. They should come forward and retire instead of clinging on like our Politicians, who continue to occupy the busiest and topmost post even after they cross the age of 70 .
Young crop should be really encouraged. Even England without Hoggard, Harmison and Flintoff, had almost won the Test match against India at Lords. U give chance to youngsters, they will certainly perform much better than the paper Heros.
Last but not the least, the team should play positive Cricket and think positively and should not be bothered about winning or losing.
If Indian team change their mindset, laurels will be at their doorstep very soon.
RE:What Indian Fans Want?
by Nandu R on Jul 25, 2007 08:20 PM
My Dear Raman,
I hope you read what i wrote. If not please read it again.Did i ever mention Sachin/Dravid or Ganguly to be included in the team based on past heroics.Lets take the last one year or last 10 matches or last twenty matches and see who has performed well. If raina,kaif or gambhir scored more runs than its completely acceptable to take Dravid/sachin and ganguly out of the team. But can you please tell me which youngster have proved they are better than the ones in the team at present. Suresh raina's average in last 10 matches are 16.37,last 20 matches are 18.94, Last 30 matches are 27.52, Kaif's last 10 matches average is 26.87,last 20 matches average is 19.31,last 30 match average is 25.37,Gambhir last 10 matches average 36.88,last 20 matches average 30.78, Tendulkar last 10 matches average 40.37,Last 20 matches average 38,last 30 matches average 45.68,dravid last 10 matches average 42.83,last 20 matches average 48.00,last 30 matches average 35.04. Please read those numbers and tell me who is better. Youngsters or Seniors. We are not talking about past glories, we are not talking about experience, we are not talking about age, We only want to know who has scored more runs in the past 10 or 20 or 30 matches whatsoever you prefer. I hope those are much better numbers dravid/sachin have compared to so called youngster. With the average youngsters have we cant even win against bangladesjh,bermuda or kenya. Stop being emotional, stop expecting too much, stop accusin
RE:RE:What Indian Fans Want?
by Nandu R on Jul 25, 2007 08:24 PM
If you are not jealous about cricketers earning money then why are you guys talking about how much they are making. Why do you guys always say they are here only to make money?
RE:What Indian Fans Want?
by ashok pai on Jul 29, 2007 04:31 PM
accountability is the watchword. these guys make gobs of money fine. but there's an unhealthy trend. these guys are never out of the picture when they are out of form, indefinite extwension is unacceptable. rotation should also be considered for others to develop as good crickters. there's no retirement strategy, who will replace them ? how will the youngsters be groomed if these guys occupy the crease forever ? there's no alternate team, strategy. so its fair that they be questioned.
but asking them out just because they have made enough money is silly. i agree with you there. they are good, so let them make the most of the situation.
RE:What Indian Fans Want?
by Manoj Joseph on Jul 24, 2007 08:14 PM
Dear Nandu, No one is envy for them making money. The problem is they don't do justice to job for which or through which they are paid heavily. We, the cricket lovers, want the team to win matches. Such a desire is common to all who love their country. It is common that even those who don't like cricket also gets happy hearing that our team has won a match, even if the opposition team was the weakest. If such big guns (like Tendulkar,Ganguly and Dravid) cannot make India winning matches, let them not play any more matches. Let's try others and if we could not find anyone capable of winning matches, let this game be banned in our country. We claim that Sachin is the best batsman, but the fact is that out of the 37 hundreds he scored only two has been scored in the last innings (remember, the last innings is the crucial innings of any test match, when the team plays for either a draw or a win). Dravid has a much better average (47) than Tendulkar (35). We always have heavy faith in these people, however they only manage to fail us whenever it matters. Dravid is the only exception with good contributions to India's victory (especially in overseas test matches like last England england series, tour to Australia, West Indies, etc.). If these big start pizzing while facing average bowlers like James Anderson, R. Sidebottom, C. Tremlett, etc. let them be off the scene and let younger players like Raina, kaif, Gambhir etc. play the game.. Regards,
RE:What Indian Fans Want?
by Nandu R on Jul 24, 2007 08:47 PM
Dear Monoj, I see your frustration that our cricketers are not performing upto our expectations. But you also have to agree with so called youngsters Raina,Kaif, Gambhir are worst compared to Rahul, Sachin and Ganguly. Now that we are see once in a while victories, few draws and few lost matches. But if only youngsters like Raina, Kaif, gambhir are there in the team then we will not even win against bangladesh. Instead of calling for players head, why not call for BCCI head or selectors head.Agreed sachin has 33.65 in the 4th innings with only 2 century and 2 half century. Other than Dravid with 47.76 average in the 4th innings with 1 century and 9 half century.No one else has any better record compared to that 33.65 average in 4th innings. As you mentioned the youngsters name . They have very poor record compared to that of sachins. Kaif with 26 average in 4th innings with no hundred or no fifty.Also we cant select a player just with his 4th innings average. Sachin has 72.49 in 1st match innings average.51.83 in 2nd match innings and 50.09 in 3rd match innings. No one has such a records. Unfortunately in cricket they do not allow one person to play in 1st, 2nd and 3rd match innings and someone else to play for that person in 4th match innings. I am not here to compare sachin or dravid but other than those two guys who has scored heavily or who has shown any sign of matching them to call for their heads. Rather than being emotional and blaming just one or two persons lets thi
See, any player can announce his availability. it is completely upto him and no one can question why a person is not retiring. It is BCCI who should select team thru a selection committee and they should select the team based on the priorities set by the board. Selecting a senior or junior should be done and isd being done the selection committee. So, why blame players? They can say that they can play till they are 50. BCCI is not under any obligation to select them. If they have such obligation, then it is BCCI which is to be blamed.
RE:it is BCCI which is to be blamed
by ashok pai on Jul 29, 2007 04:32 PM
BCCI needs competition in the form of a professionally run unit, hopefully, the ICL.
RE:SACHIN 'S- century at Lord's
by Bengal Tiger on Jul 24, 2007 05:18 PM
He will be opening with his son in 2017, in a lot of ways Sachin's life resembles that of his godfather Gavaskar, so like Gavaskar, Sachin's son will also play in Indian team.
RE:SACHIN 'S- century at Lord's
by Bharat Sharma on Jul 24, 2007 06:08 PM
Use Bangladesh, Jimbabwe, Se test match khelne ko do. Dekhna kaise $ or 6 marega
Dont priase dhoni...some matches he plays 50s and 80s with his bad style..Sewage is better player than Dhoni...pls remove dhoni from indian team...he dont have technique to play and childish style of batting...lots of disadvantages he has...Sewage is classic player..he can bowl at crusial times...etc...Think of it
RE:RE:Remove Dhoni !!!
by babi ati on Jul 24, 2007 07:23 PM
What he means is Sehwag is a stinking player and runs flow from his bat like a sewage spill:-)
RE:Team for next test
by suman on Jul 24, 2007 05:22 PM
I think ganguly should open the innings with karthik because one experince player should be there when team is facing new ball
RE:Team for next test
by FunSun on Jul 24, 2007 05:29 PM
hi ashish pande , remove VVS laxman from ur list and add "ashish pande" bcoz u are better than VVS laxman..ha ha
Sachin has become like a trojan, quickly replicating himself in the Indian team with assistance from his buddies in BCCI like Vengsarkar, Pawar. Sachin is playing cricket for all the wrong reasons, scoring runs is not his priority but to use his position in the team to get ad contracts is his only priority.
The National EGG committee ad showing a kid crunching Sachin's hand is true, even kids can play better cricket than Sachin.
RE:Time to boot out the Trojan Sachin
by Uthabda Krishnan on Jul 24, 2007 05:01 PM
It's correct and now it's time to push him out of team. I don't know why selectors are using different scale for Saurav and Sachin. They don't have that much of dare to take action against Sachin as they took against Saurav. Dravid ! - Try to pull your shocks and please pave way for others to perform as player and as captain too.
RE:Time to boot out the Trojan Sachin
by Nandu R on Jul 24, 2007 07:35 PM
Its better atleast sachin is scoring 37 16=53 runs in a test match compared to youngsters like Raina, Kaif, etc who score just 5 3=8 in a single test. Only in India people who have no talent whatsoever are jealous of people with real talent.Do you want India to win matches or do you want sachin/ganguly/dravid to be out of team. Lets get cleared with your objectives
RE:Time to boot out the Trojan Sachin
by on Jul 25, 2007 01:14 PM
Hi Nandu,
I think you are very kind of sachin/sourav. Just see the Australia team. All of them will retire when there are in good form. My opinion is it is better to pull out sachin and sourav as they has not played for the game. They only play for their records...
RE:useless sachin
by on Jul 25, 2007 01:18 PM
Hi Mr. Ashish, I extremely agree with you. You, me & common indian cricket fans will agree with you, if they really knows about the cricket and they have to.
RE:useless sachin
by ashish pande on Jul 24, 2007 04:52 PM
i know others r also not consistent performer...but they r not GOD like sachin.. The real thing is that...dravid is more consistent than sachin...he has proven record..ganguli never was not consitent( he is not GOD like sachin) but it was under him...indian cricket got a new bold look...
RE:useless sachin
by Author on Jul 24, 2007 05:01 PM
who made him GOD??? did he ask us to do that?? and you are talking about Ganguly, it was sachin, dravid and yuvraj who scored plenty to develop ganguly's image!!! what do you mean by consitent?? If dravid is so consitent then why he is failing now, why he is not performing? Instead of blaming sachin alone, try to blame entire team for this failure. There are instances where sachin as acaptain has scored 100 but ran out of partners at other ends to save the match. Look at the recods you will get the details
RE:useless sachin
by Bengal Tiger on Jul 24, 2007 04:55 PM
Many indian players have performed consistently atleast when compared to Sachin, who when the going gets tough feigns injury and avoids tours and gets an automatic entry to the team unlike others who have to rough it out in the domestic league to attract the selectors attention.
RE:useless sachin
by ashish pande on Jul 24, 2007 04:57 PM
U mean others r not performing so sachin is also not performing...he is the senior most player of the team..he should show the way to youngsters..instead of that..he is just playing in every match as it is his debut match
RE:RE:useless sachin
by Bengal Tiger on Jul 24, 2007 04:55 PM
Many indian players have performed consistently atleast when compared to Sachin, who when the going gets tough feigns injury and avoids tours and gets an automatic entry to the team unlike others who have to rough it out in the domestic league to attract the selectors attention.
RE:useless sachin
by Rajesh Raman on Jul 24, 2007 04:36 PM
Bingo,there you go,finally i found someone who has balls to accept that there is no use of someone if he doesn't deliver when it matters..... Your question that home many times Sachin has saved matches for India ???I am sorry man i dont remember him saving a match for India forget about winning........PEOPLE who are cursing us for Sachin,please wake up its high time now.
RE:useless sachin
by ashish pande on Jul 24, 2007 04:41 PM
i aske dthat que to sachin fans..I also know thr is no such instance...whaen it matters most..he is the man 1st or 2nd to go..
RE:useless sachin
by Bengal Tiger on Jul 24, 2007 04:35 PM
Sachin is completely useless, check the fourth innings record of Sachin and Ponting, it clearly shows that Sachin can not perform under pressure.
RE:useless sachin
by ashish pande on Jul 24, 2007 04:32 PM
hi dear...vaibhav.. i say why u r so angry..u can't show me any record..b'cause thr r no such records of sachin...hahaha
