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Indra Sengupta
In praise of The Comeback King
by Indra Sengupta on Feb 21, 2007 07:57 PM  | Hide replies

Great dancer Sree the speedster
Blow the wickets away in the wind;
Bhajji the brother;
Turn ninety degree
Kill the opposition.
Dhoni the Lion;
Looks like so-
Roar them to death,

and now the song which Bhajji,Dhoni, Yuvi sing
The anthem of the Team;
All eleven players singing-
Chappel clapping on the beat and appreciating from a distance;
Ha Ha.

The Comeback King


The King comes back, the comeback King;
They said the sun has lost its light,
Cricket is a song, sing all sing;
Tyger Tyger burning bright in the forests of the night.
Boundaries? Nations??
Who cares? Visions of tomorrow cross expectations.
Barriers of parochial pieces of branding the genius,
In small petty misimagination!
Slap Dada slap!
Scrub and rub your bat on
Their nose till they bleed.
Dada comeback
Come back Dada the King.
Shine Dada shine
Dada shine you bright
On the mountain top, the sea
In the meadows, on the field.
Shame Dada shame
Shame on those buffoons
Who your fame cannot digest.
Make them a bundle,
Put in a sack
Hit it hard, hit them tight;
Send them forever out of sight.


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smitha vishnu
RE:In praise of The Comeback King
by smitha vishnu on Apr 07, 2007 02:02 PM
YES... We can too celebrate with songs like this...

COME ON INDIAAAAAAAAA WAAAPAAS....


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SAMRAT ROYCHOWDHURY
RE:In praise of The Comeback King
by SAMRAT ROYCHOWDHURY on Feb 21, 2007 08:31 PM
Thanks Indra Tennyson.........or Indra Keats! Well written...........

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Indra Sengupta
RE:RE:In praise of The Comeback King
by Indra Sengupta on Feb 21, 2007 10:11 PM
How are you Samrat?
Nice to hear from you again.
Some guys have taken me for a lady and started abusing.
Nevertheless I enjoy these shortwits uttering nonsenses and encouragements from few reasonable and sensible people like you.
Thanks again.

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Suman Bhat
RE:In praise of The Comeback King
by Suman Bhat on Feb 21, 2007 09:25 PM
somnath chaterji, buddadev, dalmiay brinada karat lalu, paswan, atawale we are mps sang the the song of dada and put the pressure on selection commiteee to elect the politician ganguly and media chelas like moron jadeja (proven guilty for match fixing), sanjay jah arun lal all repeating one song dada back dada back so called tiger entered from the backdoor, hit what ??scoring runs to cement place for WC. what about youngesterslike sreesant, irfan and dinesh karthik won moms and match for team in SA but media never highlight their effort
I AM DADA I SHOWCASED MY POLITICIANS SUPPORT SO MEDIA IS WITH ME. MAKE A PUSSY CAT TO A TIGER. THANKS TO ALL BANGOS SUPPORTING DADA BUT SACHIN IS GREAT B'CUZ HE NEVER MAKE NOISE EVEN HE WON MOM AND MOS..
KUMLBE IS RANKED III IN ICC RANKING BUT NEVER GO TO MEDIA OR NO COMPLAINTS OR CONTRAVERSISS
VVS LAXMAN A CLASSY PLAYER NEVER USE POLITICIANS OR MEDIA FOR BENEFIT TO GET BACKDOOR ENTRY. DRAVID GIVEN SO MUCH TO TEAM AND DADA SUCCESS IS DUBBED AS PUPPET/SPINELESS BUT NEVER GOES TO MEDIA.. THESE PLAYERS BELIEVE IN PERFORMING ON THE FIELD. DADA GOT MOS AFTER SIX YEARS GREAT ACHIEVEMENT. DRAVID AFTER BECOMING CAPTAIN WITHIN 8 GOT MOM AND MOS THAT TOO ON FOREIGN SOIL dhoni playing well ranked II in Icc odi ranking but no noise about this yongster.
BUT I SURE I AM DADA AND NOBODY WILL BECOME DADA LIKE ME ALWAYS DREAM DREAM THAT EVERYBODY IS SINGING DDADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BUT NOT TURE TEAM INDIA CONSISTS OF OTHER TEN PLAYERS AND ALL TEN PLAYERS HAVE THEIR OWN FANS SUPPORTES. SUPPORT TEAM SUPPORT ONLY DADA IS AN INSULT TO DADADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Indra Sengupta
RE:RE:In praise of The Comeback King
by Indra Sengupta on Feb 22, 2007 08:51 AM
Sweet Suman, come the way I like you;
Else do not come at all.

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Suman Bhat
dravid is doing good job as capttain shared credit of victory with other players even though media is unfair to him
by Suman Bhat on Feb 21, 2007 10:46 AM  | Hide replies

ODI records of Ganguly as captain
Matches147 won76 lost 66 drawn 4

Dravid's record as a captian
Matches 62 won32 lost 26 drawn 4

Test Matches Captaincy
plyd---won--lost---drawn
Ganguly 2000-06 49 21 13 15
R. Dravid - 20 6 6 8
Azharuddin1989-99 47 14 14 19
Tendulkar1996-2000 25 4 9 12
Team India played one triangular series under dravid%u2019s leadership but lost DLF cup while team play 9 traingular series in 5 yrs under ganguly as captaint, won 2 lost 5 and 2 series drawn.
Team went to WC final under ganguyly but b%u2019cuz of superb batting by sachin more than ganguly%u2019s captaincy or aggression. Sachin played well against Pakistan won match to lead team to semis. Why not ppl / media did not give credit to sachin???

Ganguly was captain for 5 yrs( ganguly had dalmiya%u2019s to support in bcci throughtout his career and media is alwyas with ganguly) and dravid for 1 1/2 year Not only media is unfair to dravid, sachin with strong mumbi lobby and ganguly with his polittician's influence are breathing on the neck of dravid for fighting to regain captaincy back.

Odi batting average for dravid as captian is better than his normal one, won 1 out of 22 in first year and lost12 out 17, 3 win and team did not loose any odi series under dravid%u2019s captaincy but humiliated defeat in WI, SA but won in Pakistan.
Dravid captancy is recongised by ICC for his success in 1 yr his name was shortlisted for ICC captain of year award along with vaghun, ponting, mahila also won cap for ICC test team captian. Ganguly won MOS after six years, wheile dravid won MOS, MOM (after being captain just within 8 months in WI without ganguly and tendulkar..Dravid won test matches in multan, WI, SA, proved he is classic captain like wadekar and kapildev Dravid supported youngersters like robin, KKD, Sreesant, raina, munaf the ganguly supported kaif, yuvi, herbajan, irfan.. When dravid supported Veeru for WC, he was dubbed as arrogant but ganguly support is praised as inspiring. Druing ganguly 's captaincy kumble and laxman were out odi team b'cuz of both weree not in good books of ganguly even after good performance. Gnaguly also responsible for closing the int%u2019l careera for hemang badani, Akash chopra, Ajay ratra, parthiv patel, S ramesh, S S das, dinesh mongia some youngsters In last tour of ZIb ind won under gangul%u2019s captaincy - even dravid was captian India would have won
Even Ind won many test under ganguly , team had many humiliated defeat against aussies, kiwis, Pakistan WI And in SA team India did not win seires in any time irrespective of players and cpatian. In SA gnaguly scored more runs but it was Sreesant , KKD, and irfan won the MOMs. And wasim jafer and laxman batted well Druing odi series against WI it was dravid scored highest nos. runs.

Team won many tests under Ganguly%u2019s leadership b%u2019cuz of contributions of dravid, sachin, laxman, kumble and sewag. Victory was possible b%u2019ucz of other players contribution more than ganguly%u2019s leadership or his own performance. Ganguly was non perforoming captain last 2 years of his captaincy.

Media is overhyped the news of ganguly%u2019s return and and won MOS. Sachin won Mom and MOS against WI series, but there was hardly any noise. Even kumble and zahirkahn made come back after doing well in county media hardly mentioned about these 2 players.Even dhoni, yuvraj, dravid, robin batted well.

Ganguly always very aggressive, authorative and showed his dominance on field or infront of medi in his appproch as a captain, while dravid is cool, methodical and calculative ,defensive.. ganguly was accredited for team victory as a succesgfi; captian, while when team wom dravid%u2019s captaincy the victory was shared by all players. But after each defeat, dravid%u2019s captaincy was compared to ganguly%u2019s success, and many ppl / media criticised dravid and passed negative comments. other players were blamed.
How much relevant is comparison of 16 months captaincy with 5 years ??? Even john and ganguly did not built the team in one year or not won all series. They also watched how the team reached WC final in 2003 and after that how the team was collapsed
When dravid made captain team was ranked 8th I icc odi ranking and 2nd in Test, but now team is ranked 5th in odi and 4th in test ranking.
No personal things s against any players. Hope cricket fans won%u2019t put any biased msgs against players / personal and their family members.
BEST OF LUCK TO TEAM INDIA


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RE:dravid is doing good job as capttain shared credit of victory with other players even though media is unfair to him
by on Feb 21, 2007 06:55 PM
gang,s return is against all odds, same for jaheer. If somebody is bannished for 15 months.It is next to impossible to return in such an over whelming fashion. such examples are rare. He didnot come for his back up, its indian teams failure in successive fashion compelled selectors to bring him . everybody knows the fact. Media wants to show what people like to see. But i agree to u that Dravid as a captain is good performer than both tendulkar and ganguly so he should be given fair chance to prove his worth. The super trio of indian team is back bone of our cricket so I request donot compare and suport these three fellows for performing in next world cup. Gang was a good and motivating captain that can be proven by his enormous support from indian player as yubi, beeru, bhajji etc. hence let us not discuss this issue. We support the entire team and expect Dravid to achieve the incomplete task of last worldcup. So support Dravid and Team and stop unnecessarily building negative feelings for any player thanks

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Suman Bhat
RE:RE:dravid is doing good job as capttain shared credit of victory with other players even though media is unfair to him
by Suman Bhat on Feb 21, 2007 07:07 PM
Anil kumble is back to odi after a 15 months back And zahir khan also made significant comeback. i did not write anything agianst ganguly as captain. comparision is not relevant. When team defeated dravid was criticised but g ppl compare team victory / defeat with ganguly succes and same did not happend to ganguly. n ganguly was never criticised in such manner when he was captain. dravid projected as weak/ puppet/ spineless etc .. actually that is not true. If U compare the ganguly 's achievement in 1st year of his captaincy drvid had done better job. only media biased. Dravid may not be scoring 100s but he scored runs consistanly even after he took over captaincy

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Ramesh V
winning world cup
by Ramesh V on Feb 21, 2007 10:16 AM

After Kapil's team won world cup India has never won any major tournaments. Even if two/three teams participated India lost. India could not even enter semi finals in Champion trophy which it hosted. How do we rectify the problem. Here are the answers.

Do we need Kumble to continue though he does not take any wickets and Sachin , Dravid, Ganguly need to continue playing so that they can earn more billions and here we billion people watch to see India lose? Why do we not have performance based earnings system for players, foriegn coaches, traniers...

Think, with masala to see how India can win instead of east people thinking about Ganguly, West always supporting Sachin and South about Dravid.








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Nitin
Stop blind hero-worship
by Nitin on Feb 21, 2007 09:45 AM  | Hide replies

Let us just ignore Indra .. He is pagal after Ganguli ;-)

We will not progress much if we continue with blind and senseless hero worshipping. Ganguli was a very good captain - some stengths, some weeknesses. (I am not from Bangal). His downfall was was very much of his own making. Dravid also is doing well as Captain (again some strengths, some weaknesses). (I am not from Karnataka). God forbid, if we don't do well in WC, Ganguly may well come back as captain (if he is doing well as player). No one should be surprised. All major Indian captains have been dumped and reinstated (Pataudi, Gavaskar, Kapil).

A captain needs 3 things mainly:
Be a great performer himself (as player)
Be a good leader/motivator of the team
Be a good thinker of the game.
[All these have to apply to both forms of the game; or have different captains]

When Ganguli was doing well in 2 out of 3 areas (and Sachin was out of consideration) he became captain and did well. When the above was no longer true, he had to move out. He didn't and became the biggest joke in Cricket.

Dravid also passes on the above test and now Dravid needs to be given a long-enough tenure and then only judge him. If Ganguli performs, he will have his chance again.

Time will tell! The action has already begun!

Again, there is really no need to take Indra seriously. We will listen to him when (and if) we know his eyes can see something other than Ganguli
;-)


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bharat
RE:Stop blind hero-worship
by bharat on Feb 21, 2007 03:43 PM
Indra is gay! He is fatally attracted towards Ganguly.

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Indra Sengupta
Dada the Darling Daring
by Indra Sengupta on Feb 21, 2007 03:37 AM  | Hide replies

Tyger Dada Tyger burning bright
In the forests of the night.
You are the golden day shining
On the mountain top-
The fields and the meadows.
Dada I see you everywhere;
In the sky above us I see
Your face in the dark night.
You are the inspiration of
One thousand millions who find
Their life worth living;
You made the boundaries wither away
One thousand millions dance to your tune.
Shine Dada shine and burn even brighter-
Hit hard all senseless illogical
Utterences out of the fences hundred miles away.
Live Dada live. Live long! Live strong!!
Dada the Darling Daring!!!

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Suman Bhat
RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by Suman Bhat on Feb 20, 2007 10:55 PM
Title: dada ganguly is cunning cheap politician puppet of communists,,,
Write a poem how ganguly used dlamiay when he was in power to stick to captiacy even he was out of form and how gracefully backstabbed dalmiya after dalmiay lost power and changed party. How thousands of ganguly fans humilitated dravid and team india during odi mathc against kolkata last year?? How ganguly ditched dravid when dravid mediated between chappell and him. Write about how ganguly published chappell's email to bengali news paper same way he vomited the dressing room conflict in front of media after scoring 100 and spoild the ind team spirit.
team india consists of another 10 players and they are doing more good job / performance than ganguly. Grow beyond boundaries of WB/kolkata and praise indian team Praise current skipper dravid who is doing a better job as a captian than ganguly without any media hype, political influence and nogodfather in bcci statistics and vedio clips prove this

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Kaushik Basu
RE:RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by Kaushik Basu on Feb 20, 2007 11:12 PM
Tell me one good reason why should we? Is India winning all the matches? Are so called young guns performing out of the world? Is the captain not going out of the way to support his yes men? Then why should we support this captain? Are we the people of India taken into account for selecting or not selecting a player? Are we even involved in Selecting any of the BCCI or selection commitee member? Then how is this team representing India any way? I can also tell you to get out of negetive bias for ganguly

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lakshmi bollu
RE:RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by lakshmi bollu on Feb 21, 2007 08:55 AM
Have you seen India's performance under Dravid's captaincy in South Africa ? Dravid is not an inspiring captain.



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Suman Bhat
RE:RE:RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by Suman Bhat on Feb 21, 2007 12:34 PM
Even team did not well against SA when inspring ganguly was captain.

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Aveek Gangopadhyay
RE:RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by Aveek Gangopadhyay on Feb 21, 2007 02:06 AM
u r sick suman bhat...jalouse...have the guts to face the fact???....pity on u

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Anurag Sharma
RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by Anurag Sharma on Feb 20, 2007 07:56 PM
Really guys....Leave your regional bias for once. Support India; not individuals!

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Ian Chappell
RE:RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by Ian Chappell on Feb 20, 2007 08:02 PM
I am supporting India mate..!!
I just said the Lady is wasting her talent on a wrong person...

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Ian Chappell
RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by Ian Chappell on Feb 20, 2007 07:40 PM
Huuh..Silly girl !!!

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Ganesri
RE:RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by Ganesri on Feb 21, 2007 04:56 AM
It is not SHE, it is HE... The name is "Indra Sengupta" which is usually a male. I guess you thought it as IndIra ...right?


And, coming to the point... This is a democratic nation dude... you don't have any right to tell someone not to praise others.

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dinesh kokate
RE:Dada the Darling Daring
by dinesh kokate on Feb 21, 2007 11:14 AM
Your a silly and not ready to accept the truth. It was when he was dropped from the team he has shown a resuring attitude, else we all know how he was performing when he was dropped.

Cricket does not start and end at ganguly, it is a team effort.

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Rajesh
Dada will make a comeback in captaincy also...
by Rajesh on Feb 20, 2007 08:36 PM  | Hide replies

In WC india is going lost very badly.
Rahul Dravid will be exposed as a captain in WC.
after WC, Ganguly will appointed back as a captain.

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Arijit Roy
RE:Dada will make a comeback in captaincy also...
by Arijit Roy on Feb 20, 2007 09:52 PM
i agree with you buddy.

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Suman Bhat
RE:RE:Dada will make a comeback in captaincy also...
by Suman Bhat on Feb 20, 2007 10:59 PM
statistics prove dravid is doing equally good job in 16 months like ganguly Ind reached WC2003 fianls b'cuz of sachin played brilliently not b'cuz of ganguly's captiancy.
and Next captain will be sachin ganguly might be vice captain or may be yuvraj .. the duel between ganguly and sachin already going for captaicny

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Aveek Gangopadhyay
RE:RE:RE:Dada will make a comeback in captaincy also...
by Aveek Gangopadhyay on Feb 20, 2007 11:36 PM
sachin the captain...for god sake ave indian team and save sachin the batsman....we all know hw sachin fare in his previous captainship....dont u learn from mistake....

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lakshmi bollu
RE:Dada will make a comeback in captaincy also...
by lakshmi bollu on Feb 21, 2007 06:25 AM
While I do want India to perform well, I agree that Dravid's captaincy skills will be found wanting. I hope our selectors reinstate Ganguly as captain.

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Priya Chauhan
Players Contract
by Priya Chauhan on Feb 20, 2007 08:22 PM  | Hide replies

Our Indian Players earn enough from adds and shooting now they should be paid match fees only if they win ortherwise if they loose they should pay from their pocket as senior players earn handsome money from other stuff

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rajarshi  chakraborty
RE:Players Contract
by rajarshi chakraborty on Feb 20, 2007 08:27 PM
You are right Priya.. This system should have been implemented much before then we could have seen a great Indian Performance in the ICC champions trophy as well as the SA series. Good that they are atleast coming up with this scheme.

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crazy guuuuuy
RE:Players Contract
by crazy guuuuuy on Feb 21, 2007 07:58 AM
are u paying from your pocket or handbag to make a statement like that..Do u know the real reason behind the cricketers getting paid so much...Its becoz millions of people like you who keep watching matches and after India loses you start criticizing the team..First learn to cheer team india for WC2007..anyway they will get much more money than you might have never seen even in your dreams...

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techie Jr
RE:Players Contract
by techie Jr on Feb 21, 2007 03:47 AM
Priya, You are making the player to feel more money minded. It never works in any part of the world or any sport. Paying from their pocket in case of loose.

Also I want to mention that there is nothing wrong in making money from advts. Thats their person life/business. If someone does not play well mgmt should be harsh in removing from the team. And they don't get new advt and no money. Obvisouly everybody wants big money and people start playing good.

It should work that way. You or me or BCCI has no right to ask the players not to make money from advt. Or pay back to BCCI in case of failure etc.,

May be we suggest onething. Pay "good bonuses" only in case of win. that works.

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