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Injuries were major problem:Inzy


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lokeshkumar
thum sale log kabhi nahi sudro ge
by lokeshkumar on Feb 16, 2007 09:25 PM

youhana ye sirf tere liye hai thu agar pakistan ko itnahi chahatha hai tho calaja udhar samjha agar aisi bathe kare ga na tho thik nahi hoga samjha INDIA IS GREAT thu india mai he isliye thu kamake kharaha hai pakistan mai tho pad ne ke liye bhi kithab nahi milthe hai es saal tho 10th class ko kithab nahi milithi

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Phaedrus Zen
Watch out for England in WC!!
by Phaedrus Zen on Feb 15, 2007 09:31 PM

watch out for the resurgent england ..their core players are all rested!

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Govind Raj
Injuries were the problem
by Govind Raj on Feb 15, 2007 08:24 PM  | Hide replies

Inzi was quite honest when he told injuries upset their plans on SA tour. But I remember the statement of Younis Khan that they will do better than India in SA.
Well India won one test and ran close in the remaining two. If not for some atrocious umpiring, the verdict could have been 2:1 in favor of India.
In the ODIs, Pakistan were better than India. They won one ODI by a huge margin. But the flip side is they lost other matches by bigger margins. India at least ran closer.
More importantly, India got to play the whole ODI series on faster and difficult pitches. Pak in turn got at least 2 Batter's Paradise pitches.
To balance the scale India won the Pro-20 Match whereas Pak lost it Very Badly.
So in the final analysis, India did not do too badly and Pakistan were not exactly better than India. If at all India played better Cricket except for the second innings of Third Test.
As for injuries, India too were plagued by injuries and illnesses, so that was not unique to Pak.
Remember England have beaten Australia in Australia in tri-Series final while more than half of their first team in different wards in one or the other Hospitals in London. Worse still, by the time they reached the finals, even half of their second string players were injured and they were playing without: Trescothick, Harmison, Jones, Peitersen, Vaughan and even Anderson.
So missing one or two key players should not hurt a team too much. If it does, then that team is not really good enough.
Anyone to disagree?

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Shak IsHere
RE:Injuries were the problem
by Shak IsHere on Feb 15, 2007 09:20 PM
If you see India's head to head record against Pakistan, Pakistans has won more ODI's and Tests against India. Pakistan is rated above India in both ICC test and ODI ratings. That obviously makes them a better team than India. India as a team are over hyped. If anybody disagrees please reply with facts and figures and not opinions and abuse.



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Jeevan Vidyarthi
RE:RE:Injuries were the problem
by Jeevan Vidyarthi on Feb 15, 2007 10:29 PM
If you are that strong a supporter of Pakistan, why dont you record your views on a Pakistani site. Please leave this site for us Indians.

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Khalil
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by Khalil on Mar 19, 2007 06:36 PM
Bahut Garmi hai re tere mein , Isme India Pak ki baat kahan se aa gayi re...

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matynne
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by matynne on Feb 16, 2007 04:46 PM
Please do not come here if you cannot handle criticism.

Thanks.

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Siddarth Nayar
RE:RE:Injuries were the problem
by Siddarth Nayar on Feb 15, 2007 10:01 PM
Historically you are right, Pakistan has been the better team with more all round talent but I think recently the record has been more even and I feel that India has played big games against pakistan better recently esp the World Cup Games. And looking at the respective teams for this WC -- I feel they are quite even and its should be interesting...let the better team win...I just hope its one of the 2 teams that wins the WC -- I am tired of Aus winning!

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Kaushik Basu
RE:RE:Injuries were the problem
by Kaushik Basu on Feb 16, 2007 01:01 AM
What you say is historically true but of late I think both of them are at par. It depends who fares better on the day. As far as ratings are concerned, Pakistan had its own problems with injuries, India had problems with new players and constantly changing team.

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yohannan
RE:Injuries were the problem
by yohannan on Feb 16, 2007 06:42 AM
Why this obsession

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yohannan
RE:Injuries were the problem
by yohannan on Feb 16, 2007 06:53 AM
Why this obsession with Pakistan or its players? Some perosn said that Indian A team has more maturity than Pak players, the thing is that in order to judge someone's maturity you need to be mature urself.

When Younis Khan said that Pakistan with do better than India, he wasn't trying to degrade India.All he was saying was that Pakistan won't fare as badly as Indians as after the Indian defeat everyone in Pakistan was saying that Pakistan would lose in similar manner.
Also if you wanna compare then don't forget that Younis was talking about Onedayers and not the crappy 20 over games.I would say that the tour was bad for both India and Pakistan, Pakistan however did slightly better than India.

And as for injury problem, it certainly did effect Pakistan.Pakistan doesn't have a good quality reserve pool, and in the absence of Gul and Shabbir their bowlers certainly struggled.Missing one player can have a significant effect on a team, if the player is a vital component of the team.This recetly happened with AUs when they missed Symonds coz of Injury and POnting later said that one of the reason of the defeat was absence of Symonds.


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Govind Raj
RE:RE:Injuries were the problem
by Govind Raj on Feb 16, 2007 11:30 PM
The crappy 20 over matches are going to rule the world of Cricket Dear Mr. Yohannan. India in SA were more affected by Umpiring than any other team. But this is true for India whenever and wherever they play.
Even Third Umpires rule against India and wrongly so. Can anyone forget the Dhoni runout? How many times have we seen Dravid, Sehwag or Ganguly getting a series of wrong decisions!

During the 2003 tour of England, Ganguly was given out wrongly on 3 occasions in a single 3 test series. Sachi suffered the same fate down under earlier. Remember the Helmet Before Wicket?
Now during this tour, India's premier batsman over past 3 years Rahul Dravid was the target. He got 2 stunning decisions in the second test. Imagine so many wrong decisions against Aussies or South Africans.

I can emphatically say that India have been chronically plagued by biased Umpiring. Unfortunately for our own media and some Pseudo-intellectuals, the script goes thus. When India are at the recieving end of multiple dubious decisions, the press reports read: A few borderline or debatable decisions against the Indians were the topic of discussion. But in the ultimate analysis, wether the final outcome would have been different is doubtful.

And then Ponting gets one, JUST ONE bad decision and the press goes boom boom: An atrocious decision against Ponting ended prematurely what could have been a match winning innings!

Australians are World Champions, no doubt. But they have been Goddamned lucky. In the past 24 years of watching International Cricket, I have observed one thing: Umpires world over are scared to give Australian Batsmen Out, even when they are out. And the same umpires lift their fingers every time Mc Grath or Warne make an animated but fake appeal.

This is my view. People may differ in their views, but nobody can deny the fact that Umpires, Match Refrees and even Third Umpires have been always favorable to Aussies and South Africans and always hostile to Indians and Pakistanis.

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Sandip
RE:RE:Injuries were the problem
by Sandip on Feb 16, 2007 12:27 PM
Youhannan.. you are wrong. dont go by the win-lose margins also look at the way pakistanis were humiliated and made to bite dust. They were shown where they belong.
Finally akhtar and woolmer started fighting, the doping, fitness etc... Well pak board is a chaos and so is the team. Its high time Inzy should retire. Your yousuf youhanna is a complete crap of a player and was not able to score much. so it shows india had atleast a better tour there.

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RE:Injuries were the problem
by on Feb 15, 2007 09:17 PM
I completely agree..........

I remember Younis giving that statement after they won the series against WI in their home country. I don't know when they will understand that they are playing a gentlemans game. I think India A team is more matured than current Pakistan team.

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yohannan
RE:RE:Injuries were the problem
by yohannan on Feb 16, 2007 07:02 AM
A gentlemen's game doesn't stop one from comparing one's faith to other team's faith.Try to get grip with reality, blaming umpiring for one's defeat and not accepting injury to vital players for a teams poor performance is mind blowing.



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