It is well known that they have taken drugs and they should be punished. If warne can get a ban for 1 year for drug abuse, then why not asif and akthar?? Now both of them have gone to engalnd for drug masking...I am sure PCA officials are aware of it.. they want asif and akthar by hook or crook ...shame shame PCA...
One Indo-Pak team played against Sri Lanka years ago. Indo-Pak-Bangla team may be formed easily and played side by side the regular teams. There can be matches with Zonal Teams and national sides and the combined IPB team. Actually so many players are in the reckoning in cricket that some brilliant players are left out of the national side, but their appeal to the crowd or apetite for good game remains the same. In the Indian national side players like, Laxman, Kaif ,Nehra, Pawar, Partiv Patel, and a host of promising rising talents from the Ranji winners, runners up, and other teams could not find any place for the obvious reason. Same thing happens in other nieghbouring nations as well. Out of so many only 11 can be picked up. In India a tournament like challenger trophy or Ranji matches only these players can be accommodated. Why not give them some good exposure with an IPB team, with parallel hosting of tournaments after the World Cup? Such arrangements will turn out to be popular in the given condition of popularity of the sport in the sub continent. Moreover so called national left outs and budding talents may also find some opportunitites to get match practice and remain in the contention for selection in the national side. Besides it would encourage good neighbourly relations as well.
I guess this time our Indain media was not bang on target. The www.cricinfo.com website has an article that says that PCB officials deny even conducting the test. Hmmmm..... looks like World Cup fever is already catching up with the media. I think article must have rattled a lot nerves. Hope everyone is ok now....he he.
Some Pak cricketers have been so graceful over the years. I remeber their faces but forgot their names. Aquib Javed is the one whom I can remember, beside the more illustrious persons like Imran, Akram, Asif Iqbal,Mustaq Ahmed, Sahid Afridi, etc. I also consider Wasim Akram to be a gentleman par excellence. Unless it is a match between India and Pakistan I always support Pakistan. So much in common everywhere between us, I can not help supporting Pakistan. Same feelings comes to my mind when Bangldesh or Sri Lanka also play international games. The news of Pakistani cricketers in reported drug addiction is shocking. Are there not many other thing that the cricketrs could have been addicted to other than drugs? God knows. Let India Pakistan be friends forever and leave as brothers togehter.
RE:RE:Love thy neighbour
by Renuchandran on Feb 13, 2007 11:28 PM
Hi Indira, you are a true Indian and a genuine lover of the game of cricket. It is because of people like you we still have peace in this world. I would like to know if our brothers in Pakistan also feel like Indira.
RE:RE:RE:Love thy neighbour
by Zulfiqar Dholkawala on Feb 13, 2007 11:40 PM
I have been to PAK hospitality is best but still lots of Hatred..IND PAK cant live with peace.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Love thy neighbour
by Saddam Gandhi on Feb 14, 2007 01:28 AM
Jab tak rahega samosa mein aloo, tab tak rahega bihar me laloo -aur (unfortunately) -jab tak rahega religion -tab tak rahenga this hindu-muslim lafda! Ban all religion worldwide. Humanity should be the only religion of the mankind.
RE:Love thy neighbour
by sandeep jagadeesh on Feb 14, 2007 10:14 AM
No offense meant. All these good and happy things are only till a small problem happens.I am not blaming the whole of pakistan, but a few policy makers and hardlines(applies also to indians).Peacefule coexistence is an unimaginable thing between us
RE:RE:Love thy neighbour
by shawn on Feb 14, 2007 01:48 AM
Thank you Indra. As a Pakistani I appreciate your feelings. Lets cricket be the source for good future for our countries.I hope, one day Dr. Manmohan Sing's wish will become a reality, to have breakfast in Amritsar, lunch in Lahore & dinner in Kabul in one single day. Lets work on it. My love to all who thinks like Indra. Shams Ahsan
RE:Love thy neighbour
by Adnan Ansari on Feb 14, 2007 02:15 AM
Indira, i hope most of the indians on the rediff forum think like you they are always hateredness. As a pakistani i can assure you that if there are more people like you we can live side by side in peace and harmony. Well said
RE:RE:Love thy neighbour
by Pradeepkumar Tiwari on Feb 14, 2007 08:09 AM
Although the message of Friendly Neighbourhood is good and should prevail for the better existence of both the nations, still supporting in the wrong deeds is not the way to go... If they are found positive they shud be banned. Its true for Indian cricketers as well.
Did you know? Source http://in.rediff.com/sports/2004/aug/19oly-lift1.htm
What about weightlifters Edwin Raju (56 kg) and Tejinder Singh (85 kg) test positive in dope test in Commonwealth Games
India have withdrawn women%u2019s discus thrower Seema Antil from the Asian Games in Doha after she tested positive for a banned substance during an out-of-competition test, a sports ministry official said.
It is learnt that the 28 year-old Pratima, a double gold medallist at the Manchester Commonwealth Games in 2002, returned the positive test during a pre-Olympic anti-dope campaign which began on July 30.
In April, another Indian woman weightlifter, 24 year-old 2002 Commonwealth Games bronze medallist S Sunaina, tested positive for nandrolone during the Asian Championships at Almaty, Kazakhstan, in April. She was stripped of the two bronze medals she won in the 53kg category and is currently serving a two-year ban.
Last year, Shailaja Pujari, who won three gold medals in the 75kg category at the Commonwealth Games, was banned for two years by the Indian Weightlifting Federation after she tested positive at a domestic meeting.
Weightlifters Satheesha Rai and Krishnan Madasamy tested positive during the Manchester Commonwealth Games in 2002.
At the Busan Asian Games middle distance runner Sunita Rani, who won a gold medal in the 1500 metres and a bronze in the 5000m, was disqualified after a banned substance was allegedly detected in her urine sample. But she was later given a clean chit because of procedural lapses in the testing of her samples and her medals were returned.
India also had to pull out its team from the Junior Asian Weightlifting Championship in 2003 after 24 lifters were found guilty of doping in the junior nationals in Chennai.
Kunjarani Devi, who finished fourth in the women's 48kg event at Athens, had also tested positive in a senior Asian competition in South Korea in 2001 and was banned for six months and stripped of the bronze medal she won there. She was among 34 lifters, 23 of them juniors, who were caught for doping in three national meets which came soon after seven lifters tested positive during the 2002 National Games.
One of the most experienced Indian athletes, discus thrower Neelam Jaswant Singh, has tested positive.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/040819/43/2fksd.html
Athens, Aug 19 (IANS) What was supposed to be a glorious Olympic Games has turned out to be a nightmare as the first-ever individual silver medal for India was followed by a first-ever positive dope test for an Indian at the Olympic Games.
RE:Did you know
by NP on Feb 13, 2007 11:35 PM
seefact, Your post is irrelevant. We are talking about Pakistani cricketers and not Indian weightlifters! What is your point? We all know that doping is an issue. The aim of this article was to prove that Shoaib and Asif have still not improved despite being given a second chance. Ranting about all athletes around the world who have cheated doesn't reduce the guilt of the Pakistani cricketers.
RE:Did you know
by beni thamarasseril on Feb 14, 2007 10:31 AM
I Agree with NP and Jayant. What is the purpose of your post and how is it relevant to the article. If it is just for information sake, u should have atleast added a disclaimer in your post. Any way, the good part is you are pretty well informed about these doping issues.
Though in the context ur post is irrelevant, am glad i cud get to read all of those together. Drugs is cheating, and cheating is never appreciated. Personally more than shoaib i like asif as a bowler. He is very natural, unlike shoaib. May be he is doing it for stamina sake or wat ever. Wish he had not. As for shoaib i dont care anyway he is near the fag end of his career. He just gave himself a pre-exit, or may be trying to.
Mr. Admin Where did you find abuse in my message? Why it has been block/hide? I have shown mirror? Why always my message hid with this word %u201CThis message has been reported for abuse. The moderator's final decision is awaited.%u201D
RE:What is this Adim redifff
by afsar syed on Feb 13, 2007 10:03 PM
Hi seefact.. that means someone has reported as Abuse.. Admin on his way to re check ur message if he thinks its abuse then it will be deleted otherwise it wil be gaian displayed.. so be patient
RE:What is this Adim redifff
by NP on Feb 13, 2007 11:37 PM
Because you are spamming the website with the same message over and over again. We read your response once ... you don't have to keep posting the same essay.
1) What you expect with Indian media but liar!!! I think they forget that Indian security officer blame that shoib akther slap bob wolmer and misbehave with chappel wife%u2026.. But both gentlemen deny that incident. It is proving for Indian media and others%u2026%u2026..
2) And also forget Mr. Kasori said in Delhi-India that mumbai police failed to handover any evidence involved Pakistan in mumbai train blast.
3) And now this report%u2026%u2026.. Keep it up well done
RE:Indian Media
by Vikas Sehdev on Feb 14, 2007 12:08 AM
Mr. Seefact, don't revolve around the topic and face it. We can say te things about the above mentioned players that have been reported all over the world. Just stick to the topic and fire your India vs Pakistan gun somewhere else. Gosh people can't discuss one thing at a time. They have to bring the entire political system into the equation. Chill man!!! Stay with the article and be polite.
RE:RE:Indian Media
by beni thamarasseril on Feb 14, 2007 10:46 AM
Yaar Vikas,
The guy is hurt. Instead of dealing with it, he just decided to confuse everyone else. Seefact, Chill man, take it easy. We are with you, and we do not wish that Shoaib or asif be banned. They are good cricketers, Yaar lekin unko akkal kaun samjhayega??
RE:Pakistan is a JOKE!
by seefact on Feb 13, 2007 08:27 PM
1) What you expect with Indian media but liar!!! I think they forget that Indian security officer blame that shoib akther slap bob wolmer and misbehave with chappel wife%u2026.. But both gentlemen deny that incident. It is proving for Indian media and others%u2026%u2026..
2) And also forget Mr. Kasori said in Delhi-India that mumbai police failed to handover any evidence involved Pakistan in mumbai train blast.
3) And now this report%u2026%u2026.. Keep it up well done
RE:RE:Pakistan is a JOKE!
by beni thamarasseril on Feb 14, 2007 10:40 AM
hmmmm,
now i know why u posted the earlier doping issues abt indian athletes. UR feeling cheated. Sorry seefact. No matter what you say, everyone here agrees, Drugs in a strict NO NO in sports, and instead of defending the guilty, you should defend the sport.
Important thing is, there is no way for us readers to find out how much of this is truth. Hoping against hope, its not.
