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'Past performance will count'


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mohit Gupta
Shut up Dravid
by mohit Gupta on Feb 11, 2007 02:25 PM  | Hide replies

Dravid you just shut up!!! No more experiment please. you and guru chapell once dropped Ganguly saying that past performance did not count. Even after his Decent performance in Delhi Test against Sri lanka and again against PAkistan in Lahore test. Even he opposed the selection of ganguly for the South African Tour!!!!! If Ganguly could be dropped for his poor form ( as told by Greg and Dravid) then we should continue to behave similar to other out of form players. Sehwag and Kaif have to understand the current situation. Uthappa,karthik,tewari,Gambhir ..........they are pretty good and young players. They are scoring in each and every matches when they got chances. You should consider them first in playing eleven.Now you are breaking your own words"perform and stay in the team".. That proves that you are not confident enough of your current players.In my opinion the Team for world Cup should be:

Ganguly
Utthapa
Tendulkar
Dravid
Gautam gambhir
Yuvraj singh(if he is fit)
Dinesh karthick
MS Dhoni
Agarkar
Zaheer
Munaf
Sreesanth
Joginder Sharma
Harbhajan
Kumble
and in case if Yuvraj is not fit then chance must be given to Dinesh Mongia


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Biswabhusan Pattanayak
RE:Shut up Dravid
by Biswabhusan Pattanayak on Feb 12, 2007 01:32 PM
I am quite in Gupta's raised point but thing is that no doubt shewag will do well in world cup. and he must be given chance.
Bisu...

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Suman Bhat
RE:Shut up Dravid
by Suman Bhat on Feb 11, 2007 02:57 PM
it is not only ganguly but pathan sewag was dropped b'cux of poor performance. When ganguly was captain kumble was dropped even after matchwinning performanace laxman and kumble were out of odi team
Ganguly was to dropped long time before but he survived as captain also b' ccuz his godfather jaggudada had bcci remote control. Nobody dare to drop ganguly. Even after decent performance other players were dropped b'cuz bcci has differnet yardstick for selecting players. why u blame dravid for ganguly's failure just b;cuz he made captain???
Chappell did a right thing in sufggesting out of form batsman and non performing captin to step down and vaccate place youngesters..
ganguly;s selection to SA tour was political pressure otherwise TN player badrinath was ahead of him. Once comeback ganguly is scoring to cement his place. IN SA it is not ganguly but Srisant, KKD and pathan won moms.

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Indra Sengupta
RE:RE:Shut up Dravid
by Indra Sengupta on Feb 11, 2007 10:29 PM
You are really a great inventor, and perhaps a die-hard Ganguly fan at the core of your hearts. It is mostly due to your persistent self propelled remarks against Ganguly, gullible people like me are writing pages. Carry on boy.
Climb the roof top or treetops or a lamp post and start talking against Ganguly.
You would be in the news, captioned 'Adventures of a Lunatic' and we shall have the opportunity of looking at photograph or video clippings of S Bhat and know how do you look like.

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Dan Lewis
Dravid the One of its kind
by Dan Lewis on Feb 11, 2007 10:00 AM  | Hide replies

I wonder why his current 'old is gold' policy did not get any attention in the past. At one point of time with other 2 morons he involved himself in Saurav's ousting. He realized later that it was neither a smart nor a clever move. On the contrary unknowingly he diverted all the attention to Saurav. It is unfortunate that India is still going to the World cup anticipating that Sachin and Saurav will contribute maximum. 'Dravid team's policy neither infused skilled new players nor did it value experienced players. It is a gross failure.

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Suman Bhat
RE:Dravid the One of its kind
by Suman Bhat on Feb 11, 2007 01:30 PM
Ganguly was out of team bcuz of ICC put ban on him, his poor battign,pathatic form and his mentor Juggudada lost power and ganguly was non performing captin in later stages of his captaicny did not deserve XII man and but contiued till icc put ban. Even after that he had poor county season. In domestic criceket he scored some 100s but there are other players who performed better than him but new players have no godfather, media hype or poltical support. Ganguly entry to team is bcuz of political pressure. And ganguly is only player who goes to media on regular basis accusing selecion commitee, senior players to gain attention of public Laxman and kuble were out of team but both of them never make such noises. In 2003 WC it was sachin who won match against pakistan to reach semis not b'cuz ganguly's captiancy.
And though dravid made an statment in public, captin is not selecting team. and he also encoured the youngerster like munaf, srisant, raina, robin dinesh karthi etc,,
Dravid is captain of side only for 16 months and how can anyone except to acheive him what ganguly did in 5 yrs. Even urvraj kaif, herbajan all got many chance before they cement their places. and some youngesters like akash chpra, s reamesh ajay ratra parthiv patel, hemang badani sanjay bangar, muali karik are lost their chance in nat'l team b'cuz they were on good in books of ganguly. Even under ganguly captaicny team had many defeats and john and ganguly build team and watch how it collsped and when team was ranked 8th odi ranking when dravid made captain now it ranked 6th....

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mohit Gupta
RE:RE:Dravid the One of its kind
by mohit Gupta on Feb 11, 2007 02:13 PM
I agree ICC put ban on Ganguly for 4 matches but after that ban he came back and scored fifty on his return and got 10000 runs in ODIs under Dravids Captaincy but after that Ganguly was the captain of the side again in Zimbabwe, and team won the series there under his captainship. and then he was removed from the captaincy because of Greg Chappel and Company, i agree that Ganguly went to Media but Even Greg Chappel went to Media and even leaked the email. Even at that time it was told that Ganguly leake the email to media now again the report of Chetan Desai about Sehwag is leaked, is it leaked by Ganguly, no my dera friend it is done by Greg Chappel Coz He is now against Sehwag.
Moreover when ganguly was included in the team for test matches against Sri lanka, even after decent performance of 34 and 37 in Delhi test he was dropped, tell me why?????
after that he was chosen for pakistan Tour and again after a decent performance of 39 and 37 he was ignored completely for 9 months!!!!
what do u say about this??? He performed on the pitch where ur so called wall and master Blaster could not do any thing. and what to say abt VVS Laxman in that match?????
everybody supported Gangly because he was not dropped from the side due to Cricket it was the EGO of chappel.
even when he was included into the side for South Africa tour, Chappel and dravid opposed the move but Sehwag supported it and he had to pay the price by losing his place in the team. what do u say now?????


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Suman Bhat
RE:RE:RE:Dravid the One of its kind
by Suman Bhat on Feb 11, 2007 02:42 PM
Even that happened to kumble many times when ganguly was captain. kumble was dropped even after matchwinning performance. Had anybody blamed ganguly for that?? Kumble never used media or potitical support.
Dravid did not tell bcci to make him captain, or include or outset ganguly or make chappell as coach Dravid was made captain and ganguly was out of team so everybody blames dravid is responsible for gnaguly's failures. If dravid can influence anybody's selection he could have gone for Laxman. laxman is also classy player he called for on odi to SA and dropped.
Talking about performance pls check the last 6-7 yrs cricket statistics. it is dravid who won many matches for team and dravid scored more runs outside india and bowler's pitch. Ganguly's selectiton to SA tour was political pressure. Even now in SA jaffer, sresant, KKD played for team better than ganguly
the dif is ganguly is media favourite while media is always unfair to dravid. ganguly is only player who got strong political support.
Sewag dropped from the team b'cuz his poor batting just like ganguly.
For Zimb even dravid were captain ind would won.. Zim is weaker team. team won test in Pak, WI SA under dravid 's captiancy
Ganguly is back b'zu of left part mps pressure otherwise TN player Badrinath would have got a chance.
pls who leaked and why chapplels email leaked to bangali newspaper???

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Indra Sengupta
Rahul, the Captain
by Indra Sengupta on Feb 11, 2007 08:26 AM

In spite of some postings to the contrary, I believe it is not the time to criticise Rahul.
He must be allowed to have full command of the team, team selection, playing eleven etc.
Two or three persons he can talk to are Sachin, Ganguly and Kumble.
One person he must listen to is Vengsarkar.
Rahul is already under pressure with Sachin passing his breath on Rahul's shoulder as vice captain.
Although Chappel has lost his grip, he might start his crooked game of captain bashing once again, which would be a bad thing before or during W Cup.
So Rahul should be allowed freedom as long as he is captain.
Do not try to put captain under too much leash.
Either allow him as it is or remove him, and of course it is not the time for removal of a World Squad captain.


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Indra Sengupta
Rahul
by Indra Sengupta on Feb 11, 2007 08:25 AM

In spite of some views to the contrary, I believe it is not the time to criticise Rahul.
He must be allowed to have full command of the team, team selection, playing eleven etc.
Two or three persons he can talk to are Sachin, Ganguly and Kumble.
One person he must listen to is Vengsarkar.
Rahul is already under pressure with Sachin passing his breath on Rahul's shoulder as vice captain.
Although Chappel has lost his grip, he might start his crooked game of captain bashing once again, which would be a bad thing before or during W Cup.
So Rahul should be allowed freedom as long as he is captain.
Do not try to put captain under too much leash.
Either allow him as it is or remove him, and of course it is not the time for removal of a World Squad captain.

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Chaloo Prasad Yadav
Dont expect much from uthappa
by Chaloo Prasad Yadav on Feb 11, 2007 08:25 AM

Sure Sehwags' form been bad but there is no point in praising Uthappa to teh moon......He has just scored runs in the dflat dust bows of Indian pitches against SL /WI......and WI tracks will be new to him andhe has not been tested against better owlers on Indian or Foreign pitches.....so DONT NMAKE UTHAPPA THE SANIA MIRZA OF CRICKET..
all B.S////ppl commenting that Uthappa better than Tendulkaer too...!!!!!Rubbish ...let him perform consistently .



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Lucky B
Really??
by Lucky B on Feb 11, 2007 08:22 AM

If past performance counts then why Ganguly was not included in the ODI team for more than one year? Good word twisting Rahul. Now I know why Indian Cricketer can be good (or real) politician too. Ex (Patodi, Siddu etc.)

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vinnie n
selfish RD
by vinnie n on Feb 11, 2007 07:03 AM  | Hide replies

I hate this rahul D for selfish. Really, he is more selfish than any other cricketers in india. I wonder why he didn't give Dhoni much chance to play at the top? this is real example. Declaring test match before sachin scored double century. Sure, if he has given full hand, he will soon dump robin very soon.

What the hell he is protecting Sehwag? Does team interest is more important than individual? They way he spoke to team manager was disgusting. truely, lack sportsmanship and lack of respect for people and fan. Really he don't care people (you guys) opinion. Remember, what he said after so many failures and lost test matches in SA. He just know to get happy and being proud of winning matches. Don;t care for losing matches. MAN, learn to accept criticism from the others and take it as positive. good for you and for country.
BTW, I am from karnataka..

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Indra Sengupta
RE:selfish RD
by Indra Sengupta on Feb 11, 2007 08:23 AM
What a courage from a Konnor man(woman?!
Still I believe it is not the time to criticise Rahul.
He must be allowed to have full command of the team, team selection, playing eleven etc.
Two or three persons he can talk to are Sachin, Ganguly and Kumble.
One person he must listen to is Vengsarkar.
Rahul is already under pressure with Sachin passing his breath on Rahul's shoulder as vice captain.
Although Chappel has lost his grip, he might start his crooked game of captain bashing once again, which would be a bad thing before or during W Cup.
So Rahul should be allowed freedom as long as he is captain.
Do not try to put captain under too much leash.
Either allow him as it is or remove him, and of course it is not the time for removal of a World Squad captain.

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Mohan Kalyanasundaram
The eleven we should play
by Mohan Kalyanasundaram on Feb 11, 2007 01:34 AM  | Hide replies

Our captain has made a strong case for people with past performance. He like selectors wants dwell in the past than looking at a good future. If that was the case, bring back Kapildev, Sandip Patil, Roger Binny, Mohinder Amarnath, and Karsan Ghavri. They have done more good to the Indian cricket than these jokers who exploit innocent Indians for their personal gains.

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Chandra Kumar
RE:The eleven we should play
by Chandra Kumar on Feb 11, 2007 01:39 AM
Come on man, don't be so disheartened...

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Prashanth Reddy
RE:The eleven we should play
by Prashanth Reddy on Feb 11, 2007 06:54 AM
Hey, do not twist Rahul's statement and derive wrong conclusoins from it. What Rahul is trying to do is stike a senior-junior (i.e experience n performance) balance in his team. We cannot take somone just because he performed in one match yesterday.....world cup is a month and half event, and a huge one at that. We need someone with enough techincal skill as well has the abililty to sustain the pressure too. Probably he is backing Sehwag n Pathan who might be lacking form currently but hoping that they'd come good eventually. It is good that he is backing some match winners which will do a world of good to their confidence.

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Chandra Kumar
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by Chandra Kumar on Feb 11, 2007 12:02 AM

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POLY CHANDY
Public Has Short Memory
by POLY CHANDY on Feb 10, 2007 11:56 PM

Public Has Short Memory, this was not the policy when Chappel - Dravid started with their so called VISION....
People of India, wake up, when it comes to survival it is yourself always..
Have seen in Many, seeing it now..
Only thing the current management of Cricket is good to hide & show otherwise....
If the way the VISION started there will be no Sehwag, Pathan or even Tendulkar in Team...
Please refresh your memory, with statements when Chappel & Dravid started...

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