why u guys get excited?cricket is a game of luck & not like other manly intelligent,tough games like soccer,hockey etc>Doesn't make a difference whether u bet or not.....
We all now that something somewhere is fishy with the cricket nowdays, but still indians ignore them and stick to the idiot box for 8 hours or 5 days to get entertained.
Indian team some months back was limping with form ( almost all players ) and was playing ordinary cricket and literally got media beating for that and people started watching less indian matches instead just having a look at scores and just tracking the tournament, but as soon as world cup is on the door our all cricketers are suddenly in great form.
This is really old dirty game to regain interest of all indian fans mind back in the game because we all know WC means great treasure for all the participants be it cricketer, cricketing club, media, advertisers, sponsors, even match fixers .
Every one knows how Azhar and his team fooled indian fans for many years what action was been taken ? just banned him. Did it satisfy you, instead he should be fined for his wealth collected illegally
Indian cricketers get world best training and facilities and above all good money but still they show up same error or mistakes years after year and they shamelessly say in public "we have to improve ourself"
RE:Something fishy
by Feroz Khan on Feb 10, 2007 09:51 AM
Dear Mr unknown, Azhar was not the only one involved in the racket, everone from BCCI officals to other team players were involved. However, as it is rightly said " if you are caught, you are a thief. If not caught you are NOT ". This so called Gentleman's game, has been contacted a DIESES called Match fixing. So the best way is to IGNOR and stop watching CRICKET. Lets invest our precious time in some other activity, rather then watching this so called matches that are already FIXED...........
I am one of the mad cricket fan once, crazy on knowing/discussing lot of statistics with my friends. The day I realised the cricket is not just a game, its all about making money by big guns even senior BCCI-ICC OFFICIALs. i ALWAYS feel there is a need for money by ICC, they depend on 9 playing nations. Particularly, Huge chunk of money comes from INDIA. Ofcourse special series like ASHES Series(Western dominated Betting Zone).
Simple logic behind the Recently scheduled WestIndies/Srilanka Series.
BCCI-ICC need to show the INDIAN people - India is playing very good cricket, we are going to win the world cup 2007. hence forth they want indians to come for westindies world cup, that is where money comes to ICC. For this they planned urgent series with two countries.( One obviously WI, another one srilanka-who can always puppy-dolls for ICC/India. where they come and enjoy there time losing to india(Pre-world cup) and also have there huge share of Money they earn.
Some how I don't want to say INDIAN Cricketers are Just Junk of failures. At times there are good performances by few people then & there. But I always believe India can be beatable at any given team(may be except bangladesh, zim,Holland - that too time will only tell).
Laws do not apply to the rich in India.For the information of police may I say that it`s not lack of laws but lack of will that keeps big shots out of jail. "GHERAO" is "unlawful confinement". "Match fixing" is "cheating" "Betting" is "gambling"
Match fixing is not new story,it is started when the cricket has been started,to get prove it go and watch lagan film which is based on real story.
I think you all will be agree with me,am i ight. And all these young guys should learn how to involve in match fixing wisely from gavaskar & sachin,as they are wisely involved / involving in match fixing.
And no one can stop the match fixing till the baning of cricket in the world.
RE:Match Fixing
by SAMIR MUJRAY on Feb 09, 2007 10:51 AM
YOUR SUGGESTIONS ARE LIKE CHOPPING OFF THE HEAD ITSELF FOR TREATMENT OF HEADACHE.BANNING OF CRICKET IS NOT AT ALL NECESSARY TO GET RID OF BETTING.RATHER TRY SOME OTHER MEASURE TO CURB IT IF POSSIBLE
No special cell is needed to book gamblers. Sub inspector of the locality is competent to register a case and investigate. Match fixing is "cheating". Ordinary police like SI can book a case and start investigating. Cricketers are unduly pampered. Senior police officers and politicians say "there is no law" to FIX crickters.
match fixing should be legalised so that there is not much of a hue and cry. So We will never feel that we are being cheated, that way atleast the sports will loose a priority in our life.
RE:match fixing
by Balasubramaniam R on Feb 09, 2007 10:29 AM
Do not agree that match fixing should be legalised its like legalising contraban or smuggling. If al matches are fixed then we might as well watch Lagan and Iqbal. Match fixing should be punished. The question is whether betting can be lagalised. It is legal in many countries. Betting Counters are available in the stadium itself where any one can place a bet. Yes this is also taxed. If horse racing is legal why not cricket or foot ball but as in the case of horse racing where the race cannot be fixed by drugging a horse and redering it sick or making a jockey under perform in other games too the result or the game should not be influenced artificially to benifit some.
RE:match fixing
by Jayesh N Shah on Feb 09, 2007 10:06 AM
yes u r 100% correct and government should tax the htings so additional revenue also the government will get more income for the government.
RE:RE:match fixing
by Kanadiga on Feb 09, 2007 10:19 AM
I must say most of them have no clue whats match fixing and whats betting...they are 2 different things...to fix a match you need to ask players perform badly and pay the money and betting is totally different...which is legal in many places in world even betting on cricket is leagal in austarlia and england etc...So match fixing and betting are 2 different things..and i agree that Betting should be made legal in India like its there for derby racing
RE:RE:RE:match fixing
by Sathis Kumar on Feb 09, 2007 10:24 AM
but ways are there to legalise match fixing, like WWF, where results are predetermined, and still people watch it for mere action.
RE:RE:match fixing
by Tony on Feb 09, 2007 10:12 AM
I disagree with ur comments bcause, if we legalise the match fixing then there will be no interest bcause we know that the match is already decided.Who will win or who will loose.
RE:RE:RE:match fixing
by Sathis Kumar on Feb 09, 2007 10:21 AM
thats what sat mish is talking about......we shud make people to loose intrest, and legalising betting & match fixing is the best way, as well taxing those bets will generate more revenue to the government.
In all that has been discussed and seen on TV, it all felt like a general discussion. infact they spoke about some Robinson and not Robin Singh. I really wonder what the media is up to. After Nithari this is just another story in their bag and they are again going all crazy abt it. Ask the media what have they done on helping the public in tracking the Bombay blast suspects or something which is more serious than this
Indias National game is Hockey, and that is given very less importance, Instead in Cricket a lot of focus and attention is given , where cricketers don't perform in field, but they make crores of money in advertisement and betting. We should ban cricket completely and transfer all the money in the development of India. Hang the culprits and Ban Cricket in India.
RE:Hang the culprits and Ban Cricket in India.
by Balasubramaniam R on Feb 09, 2007 10:32 AM
If one goes by your logic we should only play Kabaddi. Hockey is the last thing we should play because our standard is woefully inadequate today.
RE:RE:Hang the culprits and Ban Cricket in India.
by Ritul Shah on Feb 09, 2007 10:53 AM
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RE:Hang the culprits and Ban Cricket in India.
by sachin on Feb 09, 2007 09:54 AM
Really Need to ban cricket in india....Don't waste your time in watching faltoo bachelog ka drama...insted spend time with your wife and increase the population of india so that whole world will be full of indians..
Bettings ( in other fields we call them speculations) are there to stay and if one looks at it rationally and critically there is anything wrong in it. Investing money in stocks also is a sort of betting. Many people do it. Even Banks, Mutual Funds, Financial Institutions do it. The people at large also do like buying property, goods etc in anticipation of profits. All these are betting. This involves critical analysis of situations, fundamentals, understanding of the people involved, they may be cricketers, business directors like Narayan Murthy, Tatas, ...even P.Chidambaram or Manmohan Singh. People who bet rely on actual situations, fundamentals, facts and even fair play. Even betters dislike people who "fix" because that goes against their analysis of the actual facts based on which they place their hard owned money. Please don't blame the punters. We are all punters to an extent. What is expected of the enforcement agencies is to regulate the institutions in a manner that there is fair play. SEBI does for the stock markets. Cricket Board should should follow them for criketers. Betting on sports is illegal but not immoral. And we do not have convincing statements to place them as illegal. Additionally, one should understand sports never remain sports if the money involved runs to crores and billions. Ask any racing club organizations -right from Pune to Las Vegas.
RE:Bettings, speculations etc.
by Satheesh Neptune on Feb 09, 2007 09:33 AM
Dear Friend- There are limitations in each and every activities. That is what civilised society follows. People eat chicken/Mutton; it doesn't mean that anybody would eat human flesh! Do you? So There are areas where such things are allowed to an extend. Do not bring Manmohan Singh and Chidambaram to the scene. If anybody who represent any country they must be patriots of concerned country; if they are not sensing the people's feelings, no right to represent the country.
RE:RE:Bettings, speculations etc.
by vasan Thatai on Feb 09, 2007 10:06 AM
Dear Mr. Satheesh, Let me clarify you. I state that betters are not the culprit ..the people who corrupt the institution like some tainted cricketers..or for that matter Harshad Mehta in case of stock markets are the real culprits. If I play for my country then I will play to win for India. If I "Fix" then I should be punished not the punters who placed bets.
RE:RE:RE:Bettings, speculations etc.
by Satheesh Neptune on Feb 09, 2007 10:31 AM
How the %u2018fix%u2019 take place?... so-called punters make players to do so. So fixing is a immoral nexus between betters and players. How can you blame only players?....
RE:RE:RE:RE:Bettings, speculations etc.
by Satheesh Neptune on Feb 09, 2007 10:33 AM
How the 'fix' take place? ....... so-called punters make players to do so. So fixing is a immoral nexus between betters and players. How can you blame only players?..
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Bettings, speculations etc.
by Feroz Khan on Feb 10, 2007 09:53 AM
Dear FRIENDS, Everone from BCCI officals to other team players get involved in this match fixing, as MONEY power has taken over from this beautifull game. This so called Gentleman's game, has been contacted a DIESES called Match fixing. So the best way is to IGNOR and stop watching CRICKET. Lets invest our precious time in some other activity, rather then watching this so called matches that are already FIXED...........
RE:RE:Bettings, speculations etc.
by SUNITHA on Feb 09, 2007 09:40 AM
well said.The same can be extended if wanted to make prostitution also legal.If then would one like any relative to be in that trade.This trade is almost as old as human existence!
RE:RE:RE:Bettings, speculations etc.
by srinivas alwala on Feb 09, 2007 10:11 AM
Sunitha, better you to visit once Bombay RED LIGHT area,which is worlds no.1 prostitution center and runs legally.
RE:RE:RE:Bettings, speculations etc.
by vasan Thatai on Feb 09, 2007 10:23 AM
Dear Ms.Sunitha, Please don't go overboard. Try to understand we are all investing money in some or the other trade to anticipation of a better yield. I re-iterate that it is not the investors who is to be blamed ..one have to correct the trade itself. Prostitution is a trade. Remove it if it is bad.
