Zulfiqar Dholkawala, wow! long speech from you, not bad. I guees u r right u have been to many places.
But brother, I live in Australia right now, I have spent my childhood in NZ, auckland too. My father was a doctor so when i was young I went to USA for a holiday. But I guess you have been to more countries than me. I have not been to Pakistan and I was in India about six years ago for a small holiday.
I can't even speak hindi well. Living in a foreign country u can forget about your religion and country but I do remember and I'm quite proud. I'm doing my masters brother, how about you?? can u earn a good living and have a good future??
RE:The Pathan
by Zulfiqar Dholkawala on Feb 07, 2007 03:21 PM
AoA shah khan bhai..you're right most of the people forget their motherland once they are out to other country. I've spent most of my time in IND. Apart from being out to most of the GULF countries like IRAQ, JORDAN, KUWAIT, SAUDI ARABIA, BAHRAIN, QATAR all for short trips. I've never been to US inshallah someday I'll. Also, I 've been to ENGLAND, NORTHERN IRELAND, GERMANY, WALES again for short trips...Right now I am in IRELAND working and doing my PhD on part time basis.
You're very true by saying people forget about religion and country by moving to foreign country..its real shame. My expereince living here is same. I used to travel regularly to IND for last 4 yrs as my mother is alone. I've struggled through out my life now by the grace of allah settling down.
Anyway there is no point in fighting for useless issues!! we have lots of problems in IND better concentrate on that without wasting time.
RE:RE:The Pathan
by shah khan on Feb 07, 2007 03:35 PM
PHD right, so u must of completed your master?? whats your certificate on??
I actually didn't know anyone who went to Northern Ireland?? specially for a holiday. I have many arab friends, my close friend is actually Iraqi, where in Iraq did u go?? what did u do bhai??
how old r u bhai??
During my childhood in NZ and Australia i didnt know much about Islam but now I'm learning hips, I will build a mosque once I complete my studies and make hips of money like my family, inshallah.
afridi doing the best thing to do.and just becasue he is a pathan doenst give him the birth right to be hot tempered on anyone.pakistan's leniency on its players considering the recent incident about akhtar and asif's doping case does not do any good to paskistan cricket. and now Afridi.maybe afridi should give yp cricket and take up professional wrestling. its a dhappa as tourists. even inzamam did someting like that in canada. doesnt speak highly of pakistan's culture..kya yaar gussa nahin utaarnaey ka..shot khelney ka...you should hit the spectator with a sixer and not directly with the bat afridi bhai!! i hope afridi is doing best !
Im pretty sure Afridi must hv been provoked by the spectator into doing it. Something mus be done to control crowd behaviour, its happening too often now, esp against ppl from Asia.. Its true that cricketers need to control themselves, but so should the spectators
RE:Spectator behaviour
by MICHAEL LAWRENCE on Feb 07, 2007 11:01 AM
gosh.... stop it... it will be easier 2 stop some 22 players than stop 22000 spectators... Afridi shud have learned 2 control his anger than get provoked by some silly fans...huh... dnt get ur feelings of racism get over the board pal....
RE:Spectator behaviour
by Abdeali udepurwala on Feb 07, 2007 11:21 AM
in place he is right because that men in stadium teased him first which is als seen clearly in camera.
RE:RE:Spectator behaviour
by rahul malhotra on Feb 08, 2007 03:09 PM
Definitely it is eaier to control cricketers, but my point is, if a cricketer does it, he gets critisized if not fined or suspended. What about spectators?? what if they misbehave, any spectator who misbehaves or abuses cricketers (which is so common is australia), should be thrown out of stadium immediately.
what afridi did was not the best thing to do.and just becasue he is a pathan doenst give him the birth right to be hot tempered on anyone.pakistan's leniency on its players considering the recent incident about akhtar and asif's doping case does not do any good to paskistan cricket. and now Afridi.maybe afridi should give yp cricket and take up professional wrestling. its a dhappa as tourists. even inzamam did someting like that in canada. doesnt speak highly of pakistan's culture..kya yaar gussa nahin utaarnaey ka..shot khelney ka...you should hit the spectator with a sixer and not directly with the bat afridi bhai!!
thats the problem, ok afridi behaved bad but why bring Islam into this, this has nothing to do with Islam. Afridi is responsible for his action not Allah, Allah didn't say (ok, afridi, now u must go out there swing your bat hit few fans out of the park).
Thats the problem in the west, anything happens they blame it on Islam straight away, but for christians its never the religions fault.
Afridi is not a bum, the man has been playing international cricket since the age 18. He has travelled the world and meet many people and experienced many thing. How many of you people have been outside of India???
He must of have provoked, he did the right thing, as a pathan i will support him. yes sirrrrrrrr
RE:The Pathan
by MICHAEL LAWRENCE on Feb 07, 2007 11:04 AM
huh... u r such a stupid.... hw can u justify wat afridi has done... no wonder ppl blame Islam... 'Pathan' --- does it give the right to kill... huh... grow up ...
RE:The Pathan
by shah khan on Feb 07, 2007 11:24 AM
I'm sure he had no intentions of killing that person, he must of been provoked. Islam has nothing to do with his actions, he is responsible for it.
RE:The Pathan
by Zulfiqar Dholkawala on Feb 07, 2007 01:42 PM
Shah Khan, Koi aise hi baat nahi karta kisi ke baare me!! Nobody has time to waste on useless crap! specially PAKIS!! I am INDIAN muslim, and by the way I've travelled more places than Afridi and You might have been.
Also, I have been to KARACHI, ISLAMABAD, MUREE I guess may be you have never been to this places or heard of it..I have seen PAKSITAN inside out. and dont want to dig deep..better you stay in small well!! or if your INDIAN migrate to PAKI they will allow you to join MQM like MIANDAD did!!
Also, one of my best friend was with Afridi on Jinnah Terminal, Karachi. And saw Afridi abusing, cursing old custom officer who was his father's age I guess that offier commented her sister, mother or great great grand father.
Learn to behave then come on the field brother. ANything good happens millions of muslims stood up and say its bcoz of ISLAM and when someone does suicide attack or something they justify it wrongly saying its JIHAD!!
RE:The Pathan
by Kalyan L on Feb 07, 2007 01:15 PM
What a silly idiot! You are the one who says, dont bring Islam into this and you conclude saying that you would support him coz hes a Pathan, but not on the basis of right n wrong. Stop pointing fingers at the west, look at urself first. If Islam is being blamed it is just coz of ppl like you whose logic doesnt work except their irrational understanding of Islam! Every sportsman is subject to emotions and no one is fit to be a sportsman without sportsmanship!
Afridi is Javed Miandad incarnate- an uneducated redneck bum. He is abusive on and off the cricket field. He has already been in trouble with the ICC for scuffing the wicket, showing dissent against the umpire's decision. He is verbaly abusive to the players of the opposite team talking about their sisters, spouses and family. Surprisingly, PCB has not taken any action for all the previous incidents but they will be forced to take some action when he gets arrested.
Pls dont indulge in personal attacks. Cricketers (or say, any Celebrity) should not loose their cools this way. There are thousands of spectators and you can not expect nice behaviour from each of them. So its a part of the celebrity world to ignore such people, and let your performance respond.
RE:keep your cool guys
by Zulfiqar Dholkawala on Feb 06, 2007 06:47 PM
Sajay bhai, you're right. this people have no respect for anyone..let them do whatever they want..they represent majority of muslims!!
Thanks. I'm not entitled to say harsh words to anyone. Sorry to jazba junoon as well.
RE:RE:RE:Afridi attacks spectator, caught on tape
by Zulfiqar Dholkawala on Feb 06, 2007 06:37 PM
Also brother I am INDIAN muslim and im not afraid of speaking truth. allah knows better as u said. he is better judge than anybody else. By making abusive comments again your insulting your brother creating bad impression of ISLAM as a whole..
RE:RE:RE:RE:Afridi attacks spectator, caught on tape
by Jazba Junoon on Feb 06, 2007 06:41 PM
what did u want to say keep your mouth shut when someone says against your wife, sister etc? I respect others wife and sister and so I demand same with mine.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Afridi attacks spectator, caught on tape
by ashish agrawal on Feb 06, 2007 10:36 PM
But Mr Jazba Junoor,have you ever heard that if Dogs barks then its better to keep ur mouth shut and if you try to retaliated to dog then Dog even bite u.... I mean dont show this josh and junnon on spectaters....When ur bolwers has given 392 Runs in 50 overs then either u have to bat well or keep ur mouth shut....Crowd par bat dekhane se match jeeta nahi jata...
