Players critizise... Some cricket fans abuse him.... Australians cry that he is chucking..... Murali takes everything with a smile. ... These people will not stop speaking..but... by the time Murali would have crossed 1000 wickets. Nothing can stop Murali getting to that landmark. He is polite, decent, humble....exactly opposite to Australian or English players.
Hi all, I found that this guy called "sant gyanni" is a highly arrogant and cheap individual who keeps insulting people using foul language and abuses them for the region or geography they belong to. He uses cheap words and always tries to thrust his views on the readers. In an elite and educated forum, i think such guys should be banned. I have tried to answer him back, but i discovered that in that process, i am demeaning myself, as all that will have no impact on this guy. So i thought i will initiate this topic for discussion and let the group moderators decide what is best.
RE:Sant gyanni
by Sandeep Bajpai on Dec 06, 2007 05:49 PM
I have mentioned that i also tried to answer him back but i discovered that i am demeaning myself, i was also behaving badly, which is not my style. Hence i decided to make people take a call. There is no politics/ washing dirty linen and all friend. If you really want to delve deep, try differing to his opinion some day. And u will find out whether i am right or not. I used those words for him in answer to the words used by him for me (unfortunately most of those have been removed as reported abuse).
RE:Sant gyanni
by Sandeep Bajpai on Dec 07, 2007 10:48 AM
Hey TJ, I also thought about this last night and arrived at the same conclusion. Ignore such stupid people in life and carry on, that is the best way to deal with them. Thanks buddy, have a nice day.
Murli definitely has unfair advantage due to his bowling action. The doctors claim that there is a disorder in his arm, but this disorder is what gives Murli the distinct advantage over the other off-spinners. Murli is a WRIST spinner who bowls off spin while all the other off-spinners are FINGER spinners. It is impossible for anyone to bowl off-spin by using his wrist with a straight arm. Its possible for leg-spin but IMPOSSIBLE for off-spin. You can only do it by bending your arm. No wonder Bishen Singh Bedi calls Murli a shot-putter. And this action not only gives him twice the spin that the other normal off-spinners get, but it also gives him that extra bounce and rip of the pitch. Yes, his action falls within the limits set by ICC , but in that case I simply disagree with the ICC for setting such limits. Even with the naked eye we can clearly see Murli's arm bending. ICC should not create such new rules or limits inorder to accomodate the physical disorders of certain players (Shoib Akhtar included too)as such disorders give them an unfair advantage. Sorry Murli, but for me Shane Warne is the greatest bowler...
RE:Unfair Advantage
by ananth on Dec 05, 2007 01:04 PM
I fully agree with you. The doosra he bowls cant be called legal. He might have been cleared by ICC, but what is Icc? It is not a sacrosant body, but consist of men whose judgement is subjective.
RE:Unfair Advantage
by ZZZ on Dec 05, 2007 12:48 PM
maybe its a disorder.....but its his god-gift.....n its not not like he depended completely on his gift ...rahter he worked hard to achieve those milestones...... he's a great bowler
RE:Unfair Advantage
by hindublogger on Dec 05, 2007 01:28 PM
ZZZ ..his vicious turn is due to that action. You remember he bowled leg spin with a clean action when Darrel Hair called him for chucking ..how will you explain that?
what is class? Warne was a person who accepted bribe to under perform about few years ago... he used drugs while playing World Cup and i am sure u know he was banned for a year... beyond cricket he is a womaniser... In NO way he is near the class of murali who is 100% clean in every way... Those who say Warne is a class player must be 100% insane!!!
RE:Warne is a CLASS player?
by hindublogger on Dec 05, 2007 12:05 PM
Well Khali Murali is not clean either ..there was some bookie issue which cropped up in mumbai a couple of yrs back and Murali's name was related to that too ..
RE:minnows
by ZZZ on Dec 05, 2007 12:53 PM
so wat its not 160 wkts its how quickly and in how many matches he took those wickets is important to debate on!!!!! buddy ..... and for spinners the biggest challenge is to bowl against indans,pakis and srilankas..... u can compare Murli with Warne and any other spinner ......he's far too excellent
RE:RE:minnows
by ZZZ on Dec 05, 2007 12:53 PM
so wat its not 160 wkts its how quickly and in how many matches he took those wickets is important to debate on!!!!! buddy ..... and for spinners the biggest challenge is to bowl against indans,pakis and srilankas..... u can compare Murli with Warne and any other spinner ......he's far too excellent
RE:minnows
by hindublogger on Dec 05, 2007 01:27 PM
He has the best strike rate against Bangla :-).He was not that successful against India in test and same against Pak too ..took majority of his wickets in the square turners of Sri Lanka 440 odd wickets.He was least successful in Aus ..followed by South Africa..
WHY DOES EVERYONE WASTE TIME DISCUSSING ABOUT MURALI ACTION, WHEN THE DECIDING AUTHORITY ICC HAS CLEARED MURALI OF HIS ACTION, WHO ARE U AND I TO COMMENT ON HIS ACTION, WE MUST HAVE NEVER EVER WATCHED HIS BOWLING ACTION FROM A CLOSE RANGE. FELLOW CRICKETS WHO HAVE PLAYED AGAINST MURALI HAVE CALLED HIM UP AND WISHED HIM INCLUDING SHANE. THEY THEMSELVES ARE NOW NOT COMMENTING OF HIS ACTION WHO ARE YOU'LL TO DO SO THESE DEBATES WILL NEVER BE AN HINDRANCE TO MURALI FEATS. MURALI WILL CROSS THE MARK OF 1000 WICKETS WITH EASE, LETS WISH HIM GOOD LUCK.
RE:DON'T WASTE TIME
by hindublogger on Dec 05, 2007 10:48 AM
You knows I knows and the ppl who played with him knows its illegal ..and ICC clearing it ..it has lot to do with the clout of sub continent at ICC. Why they changed the rules to 15 degrees?How can one bowl legspin with normal action and off spin with illegal action? Remember thatz what Murali did when Hair called him for chucking years back ..
Really one way it is happy becz murali has surpassed warne, becz he is asian, but when coming to class no bowler[spinner] on the earthe who matches Warne, but if we weigh on centimental feelings, murli stood first , asian, indian origin, difficult to weigh indeed...
RE:Class vs Centiment
by Great Khali on Dec 05, 2007 11:56 AM
what is class? Warne was a person who accepted bribe to under perform about few years ago... he used drugs while playing... beyond cricket he is a womaniser... In NO way he is near the class of murali who is 100% clean in every way... Those who say Warne is a class player must be 100% insane!!!
RE:RE:Class vs Centiment
by hindublogger on Dec 05, 2007 12:01 PM
Well Khali Murali is not clean either ..there was some bookie issue which cropped up in mumbai a couple of yrs back in Mumbai and Murali's name was related to that too ..
RE:Class vs Centiment
by hindublogger on Dec 05, 2007 10:52 AM
Chota Rajan and Dawood Ibrahim are also asian and Indians ..so should we weigh their achievements too with a sentimental mind?
Murlitharan cannot match the class of Shane Warne. Look at Shane Warnes wicket. He has taken these wickets on live tracks bowling in company with the legends like Glen Mcgrath, Gilllespie, Bret Lee. If Murlitharan had been in australian team he would not have managed even 350 wickets also.
RE:Murlidharan cannot match SHANE WARNE
by ZZZ on Dec 05, 2007 01:00 PM
ravi..... i think u've not read the statement of the (mark Taylor,Ian healy,Border) fellow team-mates of shane warne " Murli Can Turn the ball on GLASS surface" ....... n they had enough knowledge better than you n i do have....so plz vasten your knowledge of that particular aspect of the game n then we'll have talk
RE:Murlidharan cannot match SHANE WARNE
by hindublogger on Dec 05, 2007 10:33 AM
Well ravi ..first he shd do it with a legal action ..not with a bend elbow :)
RE:Murlidharan cannot match SHANE WARNE
by shiek wajid on Dec 05, 2007 10:43 AM
We can not match both the bowlers i think both are good but murali is lucky enough to get the wickets where as warne is the prfessional bowler
