i am sure india will not reach anywhere near to the WC as integrety of indian cricketers are still questainable. They are hereos just bcoz of mass support of sensless cricket fans who see them as living gods. They should learn one or two lessons from other athelets who receives megre facilities still they are determind to win at any cost.
RE:indian cricketers-a saga of failures
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Aug 08, 2007 11:44 AM
I think India will struggle in terms of match practice and how to adjust to 20-20 cricket because it played only one 20-20 match in it's history.
Having lack of practice of playing such 20-20 matches could hurt where as all other team except pakistan has played 20-20 matchs and have specialist players to play in 20-20 cricket. BCCI doesnt have mind to think in this aspect, otherwise it shoud have arranged some 20-20 practice matches in England against strong 20-20 teams like Surray, kent.
RE:indian cricketers-a saga of failures
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Aug 08, 2007 11:38 AM
I absolutely agree with you. India has a lot of talented cricketers which we made semi-gods who plays as individuals and not as a team. But team like Newland who dont have great players but plays like a team and finally contribute to the Team's success
0 against Bangla Desh (Bitter WC) ,29 against Bermuda (Highest Score in any ODI),0 against Srilanka (Do or Die Match in WC),91* against Bangla Desh (WoW),36 BanglaDesh (Back to form),2 Africa (Good Knock),33 Africa (pleasing the selectors),139* Africa (hurray in the England Squad),0 SA (Conditioning to the UK climate and pitch),14 SA (still the second Match) These are his ODI performance in the last 10 outings... Test 10 outings...(19,69),(9,29),(20,3),(19,5),(18,34),(47,36),(17*,51*),(0,76*),(5,DNB) 20-20 (DNB,0)..... Impressed with the Record the selectors made him the captain..
I think he was the best among the worst... or the selectors had exhausted the budget allocated for the telecon by the BCCI for coming up with a %u201CConsensus Candidate%u201D and didn%u2019t had enough money left for the telecon to go through the records ..
Consensus amongst the coalition parties%u2026. Pawar is using his experience to the perfection%u2026.. Selectors (Bunch of Jokers as Mohinder referred to them)%u2026 It%u2019s the Coalition in the air%u2026. Sonia: Indian Politics, Pawar: Cricket in India
Friends since its TEAM INDIA not INDIAN TEAM (u wud have had Arjun singh as the head hahah)%u2026.. Give them 100% Margin.. its just another corporate affair%u2026
When we want to select we go by past records and when we play we say don%u2019t go by the past... be optimistic...
There was a slight hope that India will do much better in the 20/20 after gaining some confidence so far in England. NOW THIS APE (DHONI) IS MADE CAPTAIN????????? This is going to be the end of 20/20 as well, as far as India is concerned. WHAT HAPPENED TO YUVARAJ SINGH?????? He would have been a better choice. This is another blunder mistake by the board.
RE:DHONI CAPTAIN??????????????
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Aug 08, 2007 11:23 AM
A lot of reports from previous managers have described Yuvraj as arrogant and became greater than the game. no individua is greater than game.
People are talking about Yuvi not given a chance of captain. Yuvi matured as a player not in leadership. He is indidually talent. No doubt about it.
Leadership is not based on International player or how talent on indidual.
if we compare like this how grame smith go captain then Kallis, Gibbs, Boucher ..etc. All are talent than smith in the game. When it comes to leadership, he s much better than others.
Did Dravid support Sachin and Ganguly when Chappel blamed them for world cup debacle?
Did Dravid support Yuvraj when selectors decided to give the vice captaincy to Dhoni?
Isnt it the responsibility of the captain to stand by his team his players.BCCI has a gag order on the players so they cant talk to media but why cant captain speak up when its required.
It seems Dravid gains more by keeping quite. Saved his captaincy after the world cup.
Everyone knows Dhoni will take time to stake claim on India's captaincy while Yuvraj was ready to take over Dravid whenever Dravid failed.
RE:Why not Yuvraj?
by Abhijeet Mukharjee on Aug 08, 2007 10:15 AM
You are right we should support Dada. You can see one lungiwala supporting other lungi.
Why that arrogant sreesanth lungiwala is selected? I dont understand why Ranadeb Bose da is dropped he is fastest accurate swing bowler. Agressive like Dada. He alone can take 6-7 wickets of England. I hate selectors. We bengali have done maximum for India.
RE:Why not Yuvraj?
by heaven on Aug 08, 2007 10:46 AM
We Bengalis are only good at sending sluts into Bollywood....rest of us eat 'maach' and play politics in Bengal and in cricket!! All politics in the BCCI has the root in Bengal.....we will rule with our Bengali politics
RE:RE:Why not Yuvraj?
by Ifear paceman on Aug 08, 2007 11:35 AM
Yeah all the time pushing for Dada
SO MUCH FOR HIS CAPTAINCY..
Even then we lost to Bangladesh in 2004-2005 - 2nd Match at Bangabandhu National Stadium (26/12/2004)when Gangs was there as a Captain. result: Bangladesh Won by 15 Runs Man of Match: Mortaza now Captain Ganguly India South Africa 1st IND v SAF 09/03/2000 Nehru Stad. (Kochi),India won by 3 wickets Now you can see Donald who was there in tests opted out,Clusner did not bowl but he was there in the squad. Pollock,Kallis,N Boje did not finish their quota.Cronje,Hayward, Williams,Crookes finishing rest of the overs.
2nd IND v SAF 12/03/2000 Keenan Stadium India won by 6 wickets What they are up against? same bowling despite earlier defeat. Same bowling pattern. 4th IND v SAF 17/03/2000 IPCL Sports Complex India won by 4 wickets.
What was cooking up. Did South Africa wanted themselves to loose? Inspite of being two one down in five match series. This should be do or die match for SA. Same bowling pattern. yes Real great captaincy by Ganguly and match management by Dalmia combine.He not only motivated Indian players but South African
RE:Why not Yuvraj?
by anish on Aug 08, 2007 11:25 AM
ifear paceman u stop writing nonsense...cant all these people have the same line of thinking...y dont u argue their point of view instead
RE:Why not Yuvraj?
by Aniruddha Paul on Aug 08, 2007 11:34 AM
The mere question here is how do I/we/all know that u r a bengali........all we know about u that u r someone 'by heaven', though might as well 'by hell'...no? Better do not criticize bengalis in a public domain by starting as "We Bengalis"... Do it as NON-BENGALIS, as lots of other scrapped-headed do....... be anybody from tamil telugu marathi bihari punjabi gujrai south-indian norht-indian post-inidan modern-indian and even non-indian & say whatever u want.....
RE:RE:Why not Yuvraj?
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Aug 08, 2007 11:31 AM
dada dada dada. dont you people have nothing except talking about dada? This 20-20 cup related NEWS and dada is not playing in it. How can he be a captain? Have some common sense Guys
hey where is Mohammed kaif?????? why the selectors are not included his name in 11's, he is a very goog energitic fielder and bast's man then what happend in our cricket board selectors. only politics, only politics
RE:stupid cricket board
by RamaKrishnan R on Aug 08, 2007 10:46 AM
He is leading India A team and he is currently on tour to Zimbabwe but i dont know why he was not given a chance when irfan or sehwag gets a chance...
RE:stupid cricket board
by s kumar on Aug 08, 2007 11:00 AM
U r right, FOOLS have taken over the cricket board from president, general secretary, they look like "CHAMAR". In one day cricket, fielding means a lot , if u take catches do runouts effectively, u can win matches. Really, disappointed for KAIF, he is such a good energetic fielder and a middle order batsman, board could have consider him for ODI & Twenty-Twenty. I think KAIF should be given a place in Test also cos he is a good & lethal fielder in shorts. Till the last test match, his batting average was supereb should be given a chance in place of JAFFER & LAXMAN cos both are lazy with bat and in field.............
he has been punished for supporting sachin in the fight versus cappel...i bet dravid has been supporting dhoni all along....there is no other reason why dhoni has been made captain instead of yuvi...yuvraj is a much better and intelligent player than dhoni..thats what happens when politicians run the game..sad
RE:yuvi has been punished
by sai krishna on Aug 08, 2007 10:59 AM
What u have said is right. But Board is giving importance to Chappels report on World Cup. Where he described Yuvraj as arrogant and thinks himself as very big & talented player than he really was and does not listen to seniors or coach and thinks himself that he was in same league as to Dravid, Sachin, Ganguly. Board on the otherhand follows chappels report blindly without ascertaining the truth.
RE:yuvi has been punished
by Ifear paceman on Aug 08, 2007 11:20 AM
Rahul Nanda, Varun ,Anurag Rai, Ricky Thukral, Dupe Suman, siva k,Ranjit Patil, Thaliavar,Rajat sharma, Gopal rao same ID for couple of people creating false discussion.
Deleting messages not suaitable to their thinking.
They dont know "chashpa" of cricket ...
Just to support one man for captaincy criticizing other Indian players.. Beware of these false ID,s !!! they arrive at same time vanish at same time.
As if they have taken control of this board.
Moderator have nice sleep.
PS : If they delete this message I have copies
Dravid did support Sehwag fot his capability.
These idiots take id of famous personality as they do not belong to that community. Grow up man...
RE:yuvi has been punished
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Aug 08, 2007 11:21 AM
man, not only chappel, a lot of reports from previous managers have described Yuvraj as arrogant and became greater then the game. no individua is greater than game.
RE:RE:yuvi has been punished
by Kart on Aug 08, 2007 11:41 AM
Yuvraj has proved himself by playing in Australia,SA,NZ,WI and England.Whereas Dhoni has played only in sub continent.In SA and WI he was a flop.Lets see what he does in England. I'm sure had he flopped in Lord's he would not have been the captain of 20-20 WC.I see here people blaming Captain for his selection as captain.What has he got to do with the selection of Captaincy, he is not even playing in that tournament.So I think selectors should be blamed for this decision.Selectors do not always listen to the captian.
RE:yuvi has been punished
by anish on Aug 08, 2007 11:26 AM
u need to be arrogant to be a champion ok...and dhoni is not half as good as yuvi in any aspect of cricket
RE:yuvi has been punished
by Ricky Thukral on Aug 08, 2007 10:07 AM
Did Dravid support Sachin and Ganguly when Chappel blamed them for world cup debacle?
Did Dravid support Yuvraj when selectors decided to give the vice captaincy to Dhoni?
Isnt it the responsibility of the captain to stand by his team his players.BCCI has a gag order on the players so they cant talk to media but why cant captain speak up when its required.
It seems Dravid gains more by keeping quite. Saved his captaincy after the world cup.
Everyone knows Dhoni will take time to stake claim on India's captaincy while Yuvraj was ready to take over Dravid whenever Dravid failed.
RE:yuvi has been punished
by anish on Aug 08, 2007 10:16 AM
yes dravid is a spineless man..for him the capaincy is worth more than his self esteem...sack him
RE:yuvi has been punished
by Abhijeet Mukharjee on Aug 08, 2007 10:16 AM
You are right we should support Dada. You can see one lungiwala supporting other lungi.
Why that arrogant sreesanth lungiwala is selected? I dont understand why Ranadeb Bose da is dropped he is fastest accurate swing bowler. Agressive like Dada. He alone can take 6-7 wickets of England. I hate selectors. We bengali have done maximum for India.
RE:RE:yuvi has been punished
by avinash bavikatee on Aug 08, 2007 11:49 AM
mr abhijeet murakhji i knw u will always support ganguly or bose coz u love them but why dont u people think as an indian than as bongaly ur comment should make sense, also if u people r so crazy about these guys then make them any political leader in bengal and champaign for there elections. try to see the problem indian cricket is facing in a broader spectrum.
RE:RE:yuvi has been punished
by Ifear paceman on Aug 08, 2007 11:33 AM
All the time pushing DADA
SO MUCH FOR THE CAPTAINCY.. Even then we lost to Bangladesh in 2004-2005 - 2nd Match at Bangabandhu National Stadium (26/12/2004)when Gangs was there as a Captain. result: Bangladesh Won by 15 Runs Man of Match: Mortaza now Captain Ganguly India South Africa 1st IND v SAF 09/03/2000 Nehru Stad. (Kochi),India won by 3 wickets Now you can see Donald who was there in tests opted out,Clusner did not bowl but he was there in the squad. Pollock,Kallis,N Boje did not finish their quota.Cronje,Hayward, Williams,Crookes finishing rest of the overs.
2nd IND v SAF 12/03/2000 Keenan Stadium India won by 6 wickets What they are up against? same bowling despite earlier defeat. Same bowling pattern. 4th IND v SAF 17/03/2000 IPCL Sports Complex India won by 4 wickets.
What was cooking up. Did South Africa wanted themselves to loose? Inspite of being two one down in five match series. This should be do or die match for SA. Same bowling pattern. yes Real great captaincy by Ganguly and match management by Dalmia combine.He not only motivated Indian players but South African
