Zenani Mandela, great grand daugher of nelson mandela killed in car crash while returning home from opening ceremony concert last night.. she was 13.. such a tragedy.. fate can be cruel
Re: Stature of Mandela
by akshay sharma on Jun 11, 2010 10:49 AM
only Atal Bihari Vajpayee was the last of the respected politician , Mammohan singh is a good person but not good politician in politics he has just become a puppet of sorts.
Re: Re: Stature of Mandela
by imran patel on Jun 11, 2010 10:55 AM
We need a fundamental change. India is too big a country to function as a parliamentary democracy. it works for Britan which as big as Kerala.
We need a decentralized governance system where states have more powers to implement laws based on their local values and the central government's role is limted to Defense, Immigration and maybe a couple of more things. Thats all.
Central planning for 1.2 BILLION people is a recepie for disaster.
Re: Re: Re: Stature of Mandela
by imran patel on Jun 11, 2010 11:02 AM
Why are we so hell bent on having a Nany government ?
Are we incapable of taking care of ourselves ?
Most of our problems are created or made worse by the intervention of government, - Infrastructure - Population - Pollution - Corruption
The government has just made matters worse.
Our reliance on government to solve even the simplest of challenges is the root cause why we continue to be a "developing nation" for the past 30 years.
We are great at identifying a problem, blaming others and then doing nothing.
Countries and nations prosper because they have a mindset that offers solutions to problems.
That is the fundamental change we need as Indians.
When we see garbage in our neighbourhood, lets stop looking for government help. Lets organize a community drive on Sat/Sun to clean up the place and maintain it.
Its high time we take ownership of this country. It is afterall OUR country.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Stature of Mandela
by Aarti Shailesh Swami on Jun 11, 2010 05:21 PM
I think its a very sensible suggestion. This is OUR country, city, area and neighbourhood. We are responcible for it and WE should take care of it. We know the culture better, our needs better than anyone. If we as a common citizen feel the power is with us we can control things. If we dont do it ourselves we should not blame any one.
Re: Re: Re: Stature of Mandela
by vipul shah on Jun 11, 2010 11:32 AM
there thould be de centralisation of power and authority is to be given to local governance. national issues and policy to be decided and controlled by central authority. you are right that it is disaster to control by central planning...
Re: Re: Stature of Mandela
by Venugopalan on Jun 11, 2010 10:56 AM
but according to me Indira Gandhi (despite the emergency) was a true leader who showed what we are capable of doing in the world. Even mr. vajpayee has admired her during the bangladesh war...
Re: Stature of Mandela
by imran patel on Jun 11, 2010 10:46 AM
Well we produced an individual who was is an inspiration to Mr. Mandela himself. He was Mr. Gandhi.
Look who we have ignored him and his teachings.
Lets not blame the politicians. They just an ugly reflection of us.
Unless we get our priorities correct nothing will change.
We are more interested in Flash news, stupid bollywood and Cricket.
Re: Re: Stature of Mandela
by Pankaj arora on Jun 11, 2010 11:03 AM
In 1998-99 Mr. vajpayee came up with two defining ideas Gloden Quadilateral and Interlinking of Rivers. Two federal decisions with vision of changing India. Rivers project was sidelined today after ten years we face drought and floods so many parts of india. Road project with congress in power has been put on tortoise pace as the party itself . Federal Decisions have to be taken with atleast 25 years ahead in time and we make only decisions of next 25 day or few months .
Re: Re: Re: Stature of Mandela
by imran patel on Jun 11, 2010 11:11 AM
Panjak, Why do we need centralized planning ?
Why don't we let states decide their own infrastructure projects ?
The closer to the problem you are, the more effective will be the solution.
The central government does not know what is good for KA. The people of KA are better equipped to make their own decisions.
The central government can just lay down standards for roads, airports, etc. Let the states decide their own priorities.
Because people have more influence on state governments. There is relatively more accountabilty compared to central government.
Central government only cares about UP, MP, MH, KA and a select few other states. Thats all they need to be in power.
I would advocate that we let states decide what projects they want to work on. States will work with other states to facilitate movement and utilization of other natural resources.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Stature of Mandela
by Pankaj arora on Jun 11, 2010 10:15 PM
You are right in that way , my only contention was that then centre should facilitate between states as we have seen in our past that states normally only fight over rivers and other natural resources. I completely agree with you on centre caring about big states .If in 1947 we had embraced northeastern states as our own and developed them , i am sure more people would have gone their than they goto europe. We have neglected our smaller states to the extent that they are feel ailnated .
Re: Re: Re: Stature of Mandela
by reeba on Jun 11, 2010 06:41 PM
india is shining and it will be a superpower from next month(Sonia et al., 2010). so cheer up guys.
