Re: cant compare feddie and rafa
by Ravi Iyer on Jun 08, 2009 02:08 PM
Yes, we cannot compare their lifetime achievements. But today it is only Rafa who can consistently compete and beat Federer. Federer played amazing tennis in the final, but things may have been different had he seen Rafa on the other side of the net. Rafa has a long way to go in his career...but on current form they both are comparable.
Re: Re: cant compare feddie and rafa
by VASUDEVAN V on Jun 08, 2009 02:23 PM
Yes Ravi Iyer, Nadal has a long way to go in his career. But, will his knee and body hold up? That is the million dollar question. The type of physical game that Nadal plays is already telling on his body and the troublesome knee is just the beginning. Being basically a retriever, Nadal needs strong legs and knees. All the running on the clay courts of Europe is slowly catching up with Nadal.
Re: Re: Re: cant compare feddie and rafa
by Ravi Iyer on Jun 08, 2009 02:59 PM
Yes, I agree. He has to look out for potential burnout. Federer has loads of natural talent while Rafa puts in lot of hardwork and altheticism in his game. So, he has to watch out for his fitness. Of course, he has lot of determination and stamina especially in the long matches. But how long can he sustain is the point.
It took pete sampras 12 years to achieve 14 slams! It has taken just 6 years for FEDEX to achieve that!! PETE never reached the finals of Roland garros! FEDEX has done it 4 times !! Fedex is arguably the best!!
Re: fedex can now play freely
by ASHISH KUMAR on Jun 08, 2009 05:14 PM
Federer is sachin favourite & nadal is dhobi favourite. Everyone know who will long last.
Re: fedex best
by sachin on Jun 08, 2009 12:49 PM
yes , during those days all the majors were played on grass , and there is a good 3-4 yrs left in roger
Re: fedex best
by Ravi Iyer on Jun 08, 2009 02:16 PM
You cannot compare tennis players of different ages and say who's the greatest. If Laver won 11 (remember he won 2 GS, no one has done that), he was still competing against players of his calibre like Emerson, Rosewall, etc. Also, he played his tennis for many years before the Open Era. Unlike Federer who only has one real competitor. I am not trying to take away the credit from Roger's achievements but at the same time I would like to say you cannot say that Federer is greater than Laver os Sampras. No comparison between players of different eras. The way the game is played is different, the surfaces have changed, the technology of racquets have changed, the coaching and exposure has changed.
Re: Don't Forget Sania !
by sachin on Jun 08, 2009 12:47 PM
I DONT AGREE WITH U IT IS NOT SANIA BUT Sohrab WHO IS A TRUE LEGEND . now give some rest to ur processor
..nadal.playing 20 concecutive fianls .in not a cakewalk..only feddy can do ...n he shal repeat it to another 20...rafa hasnt even extended his final list to 4.so shameeeeeeeeee on uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Re: fedsy desreves to b no 1 again
by muzzi on Jun 08, 2009 12:28 PM
feddy dindt ven let oter to be no 1..............coz he is greatest n played finest flawless game.others are gr8 but not greatest.pete didnt rule so onesidedly.dats why others cud get no 1.......simple...
Re: fedsy desreves to b no 1 again
by Anurag Rathore on Jun 08, 2009 12:33 PM
I would say like that: Sampras is grass king, Nadal is clay king but Federer is king of tennis.
Re: Federer is Lucky !
by sachin on Jun 08, 2009 12:27 PM
it is not fed fault that these players are not playing now. red has beaten sampras , agassi, rafa, safin, hewet, roddick but such is fed dominance that others did get a chance to be the number one . even pete said today that fed the best in history of tennis, then why u r crying denying it
Re: Federer is Lucky !
by Anurag Rathore on Jun 08, 2009 12:14 PM
It's pretty incredible," Agassi said. "A lot of people say it's better to be lucky than good. I'd rather be Roger than lucky."
Re: Federer is Lucky !
by Lakshmi Narasimhan on Jun 08, 2009 12:41 PM
When Sampras played their were senior players already for him like Becker,Edberg etc. Also he let players like Agassi, Courier, Chang etc to compete him. But Federer never allowed anyone to reach the no.1 spot except Rafa. Competition was always the same or better but Roger's level is always above excellence.
Re: Federer is Lucky !
by aman randhawa on Jun 08, 2009 12:39 PM
I would prefer Sampras to Federer anytime as Sampras was just Sampras.... But Federer is also a darling and perhaps overall better player than Sampras. Heres some scores to get your stats right..
Re: Federer is Lucky !
by mihir acharya on Jun 08, 2009 12:33 PM
It would have been interesting to see if Federer was in the 90s era, Tennis was soo much attractive to watch and follow. in 2000s its become a boring sport with very few genuine grand slam winners
Re: Re: Federer is Lucky !
by sachin on Jun 08, 2009 12:39 PM
sports are like that. when some one dominates or when someone is way above the others it becomes boring . do u remember those days when martina and then later graf used to play . they used to dominate so much that other hardly used to win any tournment. and look at now , at each tournment u get a different player and we have a new number 1
Re: Federer is Lucky !
by sachin on Jun 08, 2009 12:30 PM
ALL THE above players mentioned above were specialist ie most of the won at 1 or 2 surfaces except pete and agassi but federer is a complete player.
Rafa started with Chennai open in 2007 & 2008. Those 2 years were good for him. He skipped India (Chennai Open) this time and luck is not favouring him. May be he should return to Chennai open again in 2010.
Re: Rafa & Chennai open
by S Ghosh on Jun 08, 2009 12:05 PM
May be, PINK color could be another reason. By wearing that color, is he projecting his true personality or was it the work of Nike to target some 'specific' segment?
Re: Pete still the best !
by Jaimin Soni on Jun 08, 2009 12:08 PM
Sorry Tobuy, I know Rafa's loss still hurts you... May god give you the strength to bear it.
Re: Pete still the best !
by SKYSTAR on Jun 08, 2009 12:23 PM
If you compare such sort of statistics, there will be never an end. Then what about Federer appearance of 19 grand slam finals, has Sampras ever reached that many? Of the last 15 Grandslams he has reached 14 grandslam finals, can Sampras boast of such statistics? We should be proud, that we are witnessing an all time great.
Re: Pete still the best !
by Bala on Jun 09, 2009 06:49 PM
Looks like you are not able to digest Roger winning on Clay. COme on.. ITs all in the game.. You should have big heart to accept bitter facts.
Re: Pete still the best !
by Ashok Lulla on Jun 08, 2009 12:15 PM
Toby Maguire, where was Nadal in all these grand slams? Why didn't HE make it to these finals?
Re: Pete still the best !
by Anurag Rathore on Jun 08, 2009 12:04 PM
And what you think about Sampras record on Clay? Federer is special because of his consistency on all type of courts.
Re: Pete still the best !
by pradip banik on Jun 08, 2009 02:06 PM
I know is is getting increasing difficult for you to digest the fact that Federer has won the French Open and that he is being hailed as the Greatest Ever Tennis Player. Watching Nadal plays reminded me of Jim Courier. There game are so similar. They achieved initial success, but later on faded, coz they didn't have style. Both are hard hitters, that in stamina absorbing game like tennis, u need to conserve your energy to succeed at highest level. Federer has time and again proved that but look at Nadal. He is already suffering from exhaustion. Just mark my words, he will meet the same fate as that of Jim Courier. In another year or 2, you will see Nadal nowhere in top 10 or probably in Top 50. In sports, it is ultimately the win that matters, and come on he defeated the player who beat your fav player Nadal. So don't dis credit the efforts of Soderling (the giant slayer).
"What he's done over the past five years has never, ever been done — and probably will never, ever happen again," Sampras said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "Regardless if he won there or not, he goes down as the greatest ever. This just confirms it."
"I'm obviously happy for Roger," Sampras said. "If there's anyone that deserves it, it's Roger. He's come so close."
"He just is a great, great player that is a credit to the sport and is a positive influence for young kids and just tennis in general," Sampras said. "It looks pretty tough to beat now with 14 majors, and I'm sure he's going to go on and win a lot more."
Re: After French Open title, Sampras calls Federer 'the greatest
by Abhijit on Jun 08, 2009 12:15 PM
Anurag,
Sampras is the right person to judge who is best, all others who never ever had played Tennis too commenting lot. But Sampras with 14 Grand Slam and not a French Open in it, is so far regarded as the best for the achievement made, along with other Great Players. As Federer said this victory took off lot of pressure from him, we can expect few more titles to his already glittering career.
Re: Re: After French Open title, Sampras calls Federer 'the grea
by Anurag Rathore on Jun 08, 2009 12:30 PM
I hope so. I think A.Murray will be toughest opponent for him in Wimbledon.
