India is not a place for talent. There are always people to pull you down. Please move to the US or UK or some country which are really secular and which encourage talent. Please do this to be good to yourself and your career. Indians can not think beyond caste, religion, reservation and violence. India does not deserve any talent because Indians will only try to harm the talent in every possible way rather than fostering it.
From a well wisher who felt the same doing research in INdia.
RE:Move
by deepak on Feb 04, 2008 09:24 PM
Aha Paki jihadis are everywhere...Kitappa the more you demonize India the worse your country & community will get.
RE:Move
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:27 PM
I agree with Kitappa and I don't think that makes him a paki or a jehadi ... India is no place for talent ... it's a place good for mediocres who are used to being pushed around, tread over, used as a doormat, lied to and cheated to.
Brain drain is better than brain in a drain ... Sania should move on with her life and settle elsewhere ... India is for mediocres ... she has some merit.
RE:Move
by Underground Underworld on Feb 04, 2008 09:45 PM
"Brain drain is better than brain in a drain ... Sania should move on with her life and settle elsewhere ... India is for mediocres ... she has some merit."
RE:Move
by jim on Feb 04, 2008 09:37 PM
I agree with Kittappa. Even I left India because of dirty politics in indian education system. Although I was doing fair enough publishing 3 internationa research papers, I kept on waiting for PhD program registration for 4 yrs and finally decided to leave India and landed to US. On the contrary, my colleagues from reserved quota with below average pursued PhD without any research only bcoz head was from reserved quota! India is sinking ! God save INDIA. I pray, indians should think about such serious issues.
RE:RE:Move
by Underground Underworld on Feb 04, 2008 09:56 PM
You are right MR. JIM.
THIS IS THE FILTH IN INDISTAN.
IT stinks in INDIA. EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE, EVEN IN SPORTS. SHITZ!
YOU WERE WISE LIKE A FEW OF US, TO ADAPT IN OTHER ZONES IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD.
SANIA DOES NOT NEED ASYLUM. SHE WILL BE RECEIVED FREELY IN ALMOST ANY PLACE IN THE GLOBE. A RANKING IN THE TOP 30'S AND THESE MFS DON'T EVEN VALUE THAT.
MAN, IN THE US, AUSTRALIA, UK, EUROPE, CHINA, AND MOST PLACES - THEY WOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF HER WITH FUNDS, AND ALL FACILITIES, AND THE BEST COACHES, ETC. IN INDISTAN, THESE PLAYERS HAVE TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES.
I VAGUELY REMEMBER ABOUT THAT SHOT-MAN, WHO LOST AN IMPORTANT WORLD EVENT (OR WAS IT THE ASIAN GAMES, i DON'T KNOW), BECOS HE COULD NOT GET THE RIGHT QUALITY IMPORTED PISTOLS / GUNS, WHATEVER. AND EARLIER HE HAD WON MANY LAURELS FOR THE COUNTRY.
SHAME ON THE PATATHIC STATE OF AFFAIRS IN INDISTAN.
RE:Move
by rishab on Feb 05, 2008 07:37 AM
jaspal rana, for olympics / asian games he had a faulty pistol. he had equalled a world record in a non-olympic event.
RE:every celebrities ignore performing in country but very much open in abroad
by john on Feb 04, 2008 09:37 PM
There is absolutely no need to move out of india, Sania should be left alone to do her best and sports people need to wear clothes suited to the game. She is not going out of way by wearing what she is wearing. It is the sick & ignorant and non-sports people like you who get involved into creating problems to real sports persons. If you are better,if you know how to it better, show it to India. Till that time you better shut up and keep qiute.
RE:RE:every celebrities ignore performing in country but very much open in abroad
by VIJAY MALKOTI on Feb 04, 2008 09:59 PM
DEAR JOHN, This was abt sania insulting the national flag and nt abt wearing short stuff. U've got it wrong dude
Girish, Your argument w.r.t. Sania disrespecting the flag is childish in a sense but also fearfull as it is comparable to the arguments made by the Mullas, a.k.a "Agents of Intolerance".
Some facts: (Source: Wikipedia)
- Prior to 2002, the general public of India could not fly their national flag publicly except on designated national holidays. he Union Cabinet amended the Indian flag code with effect from 26 January 2002, allowing the general public to hoist the flag on all days of the year, provided they safeguarded the dignity, honour and respect of the flag.
Respect for the flag Indian law says that the flag must at all times be treated with "dignity, loyalty and respect" [Very Subjective].
The "Flag Code of India %u2013 2002", which superseded "The Emblems and Names Act, 1950", governs the display and usage of the flag. Official regulation states that the flag must never touch the ground or water, be used as a tablecloth or draped in front of a platform, cover a statue, plaque, cornerstone etc. Until 2005, the flag could not be used in clothing, uniform or costume. On 5 July 2005, the Government of India amended the code, allowing use of the flag as clothing and uniform. - When no longer in a fit condition to be used, a flag should be disposed of in a dignified manner, preferably by burning or ground burial.
Was there an outcry on Jan 27th, when the streets were littered with flags ?
Remember the ol' days when the russians and east european players defected to other countries, and were welcomed, with open arms!
Well, you can see that you are not received well in India, everytime you do something, becos of too much of fanatics and their fanaticism.
America, and European Country, or any country you choose - will be glad to give you citizenship. Just show your inclination and see the offers you get.
That's why very few Indian's prosper in India, and everyone seeks to go abroad, becos they are give due recognition and respect.
Here, if one does any great achievement - the minister, the head-of-department, and everyone - tom, his dick and harry, will want to stand by you and take credit.
Give up India and seek some other more welcoming country. And with the money you make, you can live and survive anywhere.
This is a sincere request. You cannot prosper here. There is no valour for standing for your country. Those days are gone. Be a global citizen, be free!
We are still in the days of slavery here. Nobody wants to see you doing well and flaggards have the gall to try to tarnish your reputation and dedication to the game.
Shame on them. Shame on that photographer.
And do dress as you please. It is your life. You can always choose whatever you want to do - it just happens that you are born to Muslim parents, but your choices are yours.
Make a wise decision - DEFECT TO ANOTHER PART OF THE GLOBE.
RE:The wisest thing to do - defect!
by franklin b on Feb 04, 2008 09:27 PM
Well said. I'm an Indian, living in UK for long. My acheivements was not recognised in India, but had a grt welcome in UK! Its true in most of the case, except some are luckey. I pity Indians in India who are looking for the future.
RE:The wisest thing to do - defect!
by Underground Underworld on Feb 04, 2008 09:30 PM
I think you are quite a stupid edyot, sissyfied MulaliKrishna KotaVenkata. I saw some of your posts here, and I can see that you are a plain stupid imbicile, who blatantly desplays his distorted combinition of grey cells inside out. Again, you show what you are from the outside!
The fact that I am not on your ground shows that I am not in your league. You are another typical Indistani who had a boxed inferior mental vision. Look beyond geographical barrier - and you will see that I am no-where near you.
Like I mentioned in the post, you are one of those - Tom, His Dick and Hairy Guys, who wants the adulation, but has done nothing note-worthy for your country, your family,or yourself!
A collection of multi-million imbiciles like you, brings about a shame to the name of your country.
I am safe in the free air and atmosphere from way beyond yonder,that I don't need to to come and smell your stink and see your face.
And if you don't know, you are a prime candidate for kickass, or dotbusting, if you step out of your small circle of frog-well banana-leaf indistani.
Your breathe itself is HIV positive
You bring disgrace to the country,and we look down up you, oh great madrassa MURALIKRISHNA KOTA VENKATA. Your breed is a disgrace to your nation.
RE:The wisest thing to do - defect!
by rishab on Feb 05, 2008 07:42 AM
hey u r using english language man, we dont need you. sorry to say bro, we must come out of stone age, and look to the future more than the past
RE:The wisest thing to do - defect!
by john on Feb 04, 2008 09:43 PM
Ofcourse, you don't need the right thinking people in India, you need those who are ignorant and immetured like you. It reminds of the phrase, "birds of same feathers flok togather"!enjoy... with your arrogance and ignorance.
RE:The wisest thing to do - defect!
by Underground Underworld on Feb 04, 2008 10:10 PM
ANOTHER IMBICILE! JOHN, WITH AN WESTERN ENGLISH NAME.
HAS FORGOTTEN THE PHRASE HE REMEMBERS "BIRDS OF SAME FEATHERS FLOK TOGATHER".
SHITZ, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS REVISED VERSION OF THE WELL KNOWN SAYING. ARE YOU GREYED ALL OVER, AND HAVE LOST YOUR MEMORY? WHAT SHAIZA DO YOU WRITE, ANOTHER EDYOT LIKE MADRASSA, THIS JOHN.
GO TAKE A LEAK IN THE JOHN! THAT IS,IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, EDYOT.
RE:Or is it?
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:06 PM
she does get in trouble with harliners ... the fundamentalist muslims ... like there is any other type ... LOL
Good decision by Sania ... plz come to USA and give me a chance
No one has the right to disrespct the national flag. Even if she has done it y mistake, she should say sorry and continue on her illustrous career. Also, majority of the opposition is from the Muslim quarters.
RE:First of all...
by Suresh on Feb 04, 2008 09:49 PM
The flag was five feet away from her leg. The way the photograph was taken it appears as if Sonia's feet is near the flag. Infact the seat of the players and the flag is on the same line, which is why it appears as in the photo. Anyway no big deal. People like Raj Thackrey and Laloo Prasad are bigger criminals. Congress has an MP who is not even an Indian citizen (even the Supreme Court has said so). And we pick on the easiest target - Try getting Balasaheb with frivilous cases. He will kick the hell out of all these lawyers who have no other business but file frivilous cases.
RE:First of all...
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:08 PM
disrespect is only if it is done on purpose ... anything by accident is merely an accident ... not a disrespect.
RE:First of all...
by MuraliKrishna KotaVenkata on Feb 04, 2008 09:17 PM
My dear friend disrespect by accident is also the same. Dont ever utter something like these. People will spit (oh! by mistake) and ask u to enjoy it
RE:First of all...
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:23 PM
if they spit ... they spit on purpose ... you can tell ... can't you ... don't fake an act done on purpose ... people are smarter than you think ... and you are a dumbo ... LOL
We all are taking shots at the extremist...I am no supporter of these "AGENTS OF INTOLERANCE".
But look at this forum...we are always ready to report someone'e message just because we do not agree with their views...or we start making personal remarks based on religion or ethnic background.
These "Agents of Intolerance" are just a reflection of our own prejudice.
We cannot change others. But we can surely reflect on our own behavior.
It is about individual freedom and individual responsibility. Lets reject this "MOB" mentality we have.
It is highly appalling to see most of the Indians considering the disrespect towards National flag as a trivial issue, she might be the only women in India who plays tennis but since when did that give her the right to disrespect National Flag, or is there a new law implicitly accepted by Indians "If a person is popular he/she can get away with anything", bcuz the way issues are handled with sanjay dutt, salman and few more that seems to be the order of the day, and what is all that crap about comparing her previous controversies to the present National Flag (by the way she was very prompt in apologising to the damn Mullah's).
Many people have written comments like "Go and play in USA, India dosent deserve you", Yeah Right, in America the punishment for disrecting the National Flag is minimum of 15 years in prison if proved, No questions asked no one listens to any fan if held Gulity
And Guys like Karthik... what did you say "This Nation is not a Nation", then tell me what is it??, you guys should be sent to countries like China in order to appreciate the benefits you enjoy in India. I always wondered How come only 100 thousand british ruled 300 Million Indians for 200 years, its bcuz 90% of the Indians do not know the meaning of Nationalism. Tennis skills and National flag issue are two completely different things, Now for those who wants to use foul language towards me.... Cowards can say whatever they want from safety of home, pick one on one and you will bolt like rats.
RE:What a Shame
by piyush bakshi on Feb 04, 2008 08:52 PM
dude am with u all the way on this one.. i'd just like to add that it is the hindus of this country who have let their country down for so long, we are just not to be bothered.. thats the saddest part. its time that we rouse ourselves as indians and more importantly hindus who need to fulfill their duty towards hindustan
RE:What a Shame
by Suchin Shetty on Feb 04, 2008 08:55 PM
Girish, get your GOD DAMN FACTS STraight.... were you sitting next to Sania Mirza when it happened ? How often haven't pictures being mis interpreted ? Why would an Indian Disrespect the Indian Flag intentionally ? Don't be a jackarse
RE:What a Shame
by Girish on Feb 04, 2008 09:21 PM
Suchin Shetty, I also said if proved, but why are her supporters going berserk and saying bad things about India even before investigation?, in fact their words suggest that she should not even be questioned for her actions... and when sania mirza does not want to play in India, the country she belongs to, that very much speaks her "love for country" which she had earlier said during australian open, tell me how many people had a problem when she was climbing up the ladder except for those stone age mullahs, but she apologised to the mullahs even though she had not done anything wrong, but dosent give a damn to the country when she did something wrong, and why not all that matters in India is "She's Popular"
RE:RE:What a Shame
by piyush bakshi on Feb 04, 2008 09:00 PM
whoever said it was intentional? DID HE SAY IT WAS INTENTIONAL? WERE YOU SITTING NEXT TO HER WHEN IT HAPPENED, MAYBE YOU ARE MISINTERPRETING IT.
RE:RE:RE:RE:What a Shame
by Girish on Feb 04, 2008 09:31 PM
you can speak whatever you want to your convinience... when did she apologise towards the National flag row?
Yeah I remember her apologizing to the mullahs. ans how do you know that I do not have Rhetoric towards corrupt politicians and more importantly bueracrats, I have nothing to prove but I'm proud of myself that I have got all my official work done in government offices without paying bribe, even if I had to visit that office several times instead of just once by giving bribe and I dont think that is something extraordinary of me but it is a simple duty, and Imran when you make a personal remark about someone whom you do not even know, that show your reasoning power.
and what did you say "Shameless, spineless", yeah apparently in India being patriotic and having sense of justice is Shameless and spineless, but blindly doing hero worship is a matter of Honour.
RE:What a Shame
by Ram Chauthariya on Feb 04, 2008 08:52 PM
You do not know your facts. In USA, it is very normal to burn the national flag as a protest. There is no law against it. You see naked women wrapping the national flag of USA.
If India is so great, how come it can be insulted by someone pointing their feet at the flag (remember Sania was representing the country/away from her family during New Year)
RE:What a Shame
by raj sreedhar on Feb 04, 2008 09:02 PM
Ram Chauthariya You right. In the US flag belongs to the citizen, they do have the right to burn. In India they are blowing this out of propotion. I have seen picture of Lalu prasad sitting while national anthem is playing? Whatabout that? Do you really belief commies in India respect the national flag? How come you guys have no complaints about it?
RE:What a Shame
by Ram Chauthariya on Feb 04, 2008 09:05 PM
What Indians should be worried about is ethnic hatred and violence being perpetrated by Raj Thackeray in Mumbai against north Indians.
RE:RE:What a Shame
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:14 PM
Lalllu and other polititains will get political milage out of it ... their controversies will add fuel to fire ... cause riots, improve election prospects .... but for sania, these may end her career
RE:RE:What a Shame
by piyush bakshi on Feb 04, 2008 08:54 PM
their concept of respect may be different but what they consider disrespectful they do not tolerate it, thats the point girish is making.. and am sure u wud be perfectly okay with someone pointing their feet towards you and sitting in proximity, in fact u may even like it.
RE:What a Shame
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:12 PM
we (indians) need to raise our standards of respect and disrespect ... don't shower praises on her when she brings name and fame to India by her super performance, but look with a magnifying glass in search of impropriety and create a hungama and belittle her ... that's what some people have come to doing.
I say to sania ... ditch India ... screw the 'holes and leave elsewhere ... you have only one life ... tennis is your game ... why screw it all up for the love of a country that hasn't given you anything back.
RE:RE:RE:What a Shame
by Ram Chauthariya on Feb 04, 2008 09:06 PM
You are comparing flags with humans. I may not like it, may move but certainly I do not have any right to sue the person
RE:RE:RE:What a Shame
by Partha Choudhury on Feb 04, 2008 09:00 PM
You wern'r there... how do you know that the photo was not taken from a wrong angle and her feet were not towards the flag?
RE:RE:RE:What a Shame
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:16 PM
yes, they do in fact ... it just proves that we have to judge her by teh same standards as we judge those throwing paper flags on streets and cannot dispose them with respect.
RE:RE:What a Shame
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:18 PM
no, you got it all wrong ... you should be handed over to analogy police for coming up with a wrong analogy.
It means that if A commits a crime, is tried and is let go, then if B commits the same crime, he/she should also be let go ... because the law should be same for all
RE:What a Shame
by Partha Choudhury on Feb 04, 2008 08:55 PM
One photo does not prove anything... it could have been taken from the wrong abngle... so, what have you done for India lately?
RE:RE:What a Shame
by MuraliKrishna KotaVenkata on Feb 04, 2008 09:00 PM
What angle man, why ever u need to put your legs on a table, except for u to show u r head strong
RE:What a Shame
by MuraliKrishna KotaVenkata on Feb 04, 2008 09:03 PM
is it, do you even do when u have a bunch of photographers and also in a public meetings, dont tell me stories yar
RE:What a Shame
by Partha Choudhury on Feb 04, 2008 09:11 PM
I do put my feet up on the table during a meeting as long as my shoes are not right in front of somebody's face... none of my supervisors have ever filed a lawsuit against me... so, what I have you done for India lately?
RE:RE:What a Shame
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:21 PM
these photographers don't deserve any respect .. they are there for taking pictures of sania .. it's their job .. they get paid for those pictures
RE:RE:RE:What a Shame
by Loan Shark on Feb 04, 2008 09:20 PM
you put your legs on table to give them some rest ... much needed for legs after running around in a game of tennis or any other sport
you must come from a very orthodox and parochial background to consider this an insult ... times are changing ... you prefer to live in the dark ages ... LOL
let ur game answer all these, why do u want to indulge in all these. Just play ur game and prove ur self. All the ranks u talk like below ten and twenty. do it. When big elephant walk, dogs bark.
Even now if u want not to participate in India, i advise u to quit the game and sit at home.
RE:Quitting the game
by on on Feb 04, 2008 08:50 PM
hello F^^CK Face..MuraliKrishna...im sure u smell like dirt and pour a tonne of oil in ur filthy hair..people like u r just a burden to a great nation of india
RE:Quitting the game
by Partha Choudhury on Feb 04, 2008 08:57 PM
She will take part in a tournament in India and thousands Jihadis will ask for her head because she wasn't wearing a Burkha while playing...
