Hon Judge Darve may be correct when he comments about when the Gita should be taught. Sadly, his job is to see whether an issue conforms or conflicts with the law. Injecting his personal preferences surely will distract attention being given to his judicial rulings
Re: ALL OUR PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED IF WE FOLLOW GITA
by Vijay Sahani on Aug 02, 2014 06:41 PM
Can you define what is dharma? There can be 100 of different interpretations of what is dharma.
Re: Re: ALL OUR PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED IF WE FOLLOW GITA
by Ravindra Rao on Aug 02, 2014 07:32 PM
Right question. First we need to know what is dharma but again this becomes very granular as the thing that I think is correct may seem wrong. So it is left to the interpretation of ones moral way of applying this.
The learned Justice may be knowing more about the Gita, but if you ask a Christian, Muslim or Sikh, he will tell you that there are many great things in the Bible, Kuran and Granth Sahib. If we are multireligious, its not a question of focusing on one book only. An even handed approach is essential.
The best from all such books can be condensed by an expert panel and this can be absorbed by our youngsters at school.
How many here know that Gita is part of Vedanta which is primarily based on Advaita philosophy propounded by Shankaracharya and later Swami Vivekanada as against Dviata philosophy which as proponded by Madhavcharya?
Do people know the difference between the two philosiophies?
Advaita is a complex philosophy which many people find difficult to understand and that was the reason madhavcharya propounded an alternative philosophy which people can understand easily.
Please understand the complexities of the Advaita philosophy before talking rubbish just because you are a Hindu.
An adult has difficulty to understand advaita intellectually, leave alone a child.
Re: How many here know the complex Advaita philisophy behind gita
by arungopal agarwal on Aug 02, 2014 06:40 PM
But Advaita philosophy can easily be simplified today, therefore Geeta for the purpose of education is to be re-written so that we get a complete picture of true secular India. Advaita itself is a secular state of mind first.
Re: Re: How many here know the complex Advaita philisophy behind
by Vijay Sahani on Aug 02, 2014 06:46 PM
I'm not talking about secularism. I'm saying it's difficult to understand Gita "intellectually". Just to give you one example, people can interpret "dharma" differently to suit themselves. Children can easily get "brainwashed" if they are taught "wrong" GITA.
of course, I do believe in the philosophy of Advaita and GITA and i think it's the best in the world competiting strongly with the philosophy of Buddhism.
BUT all this is not for a child to understand and study. Only a person who has gone through some "experiences" in life and has a mature mind to understand the contradiction and complexities of life can understand such philosophy of very high standard.
Most of the people are reacting emotionally just because they feel "attached" to Gita rather than thinking rationally what is good for a child to grow "intellectually".
Re: Re: Re: How many here know the complex Advaita philisophy beh
by Vijay Sahani on Aug 02, 2014 06:49 PM
Giving knowledge prematurely to an untrained and unmatured mind can be very dangerous.
Re: Re: Re: Re: How many here know the complex Advaita philisophy
by Vijay Sahani on Aug 02, 2014 06:58 PM
Just look at Jihhaadiees! Most of them study religious texts from childhood.
Re: Re: Re: How many here know the complex Advaita philisophy beh
by arungopal agarwal on Aug 02, 2014 06:49 PM
We can tell a concept in simple term also.
Re: Re: Re: Re: How many here know the complex Advaita philisophy
by Vijay Sahani on Aug 02, 2014 06:52 PM
Complex subjects taught in a simple way is called "brainwashing".
Re: Re: Re: How many here know the complex Advaita philisophy beh
by SHRIDHAR on Aug 03, 2014 12:09 AM
Can you correctly tell who originally sermonized Gita?If you know it then you will not be so confused and you will have clear concept of Dharma
Many corporate schools diverted education.,., a poor person is unable to send his children to paid school.. if he is not able to send,.., these kids are failing to stand in competetion .. so rich people only able to catch the jobs from competetive studies.. Honorable Judge need to give suggestion in schools mainatanence to make choice for people,, not to give the religious adivses.. this country is belongs to many regligions..
Re: There is need another suggestion too
by mandook raj on Aug 02, 2014 06:43 PM
what the learned judge has given is sound advice. It is not a religious advice. Gita does not speak of any "religion". It precedes the Bible, Koran and any other religious text in the world. Its message is universal and has stood the test of time; it is relevant even in today's world. Only self styled secularists who want to promote religious hatred between communities will not agree to this, because what they want is minority votes. The SC Judge does not need any votes!
Knowledge of religions and not religion is needed.We neither know the spirit of our own religion and jothing about othrr religion. So comparative study of religion is prerred.
For example muslims can marry only upto 4 women but there is no upper limit for the followers of hindu religion.
Like this many new things we will come toknow about other religion besides our own.
Re: Re: partially agree with him
by Aftab on Aug 02, 2014 06:26 PM
Yes what % of hindu and muslims excercise the option of more than wife should also be taught. This will remove the myth that muslims have many wife.
Re: Re: partially agree with him
by Aftab on Aug 02, 2014 06:35 PM
Madam you are absolutely right. I have said in my post that we do notknow about other religion. So whether gita or mahabharat should be taught or both or only manusmiriti. To avoid this confusion i suggested book of comparative religion.
If i read manusmiriti, then only we will know the extent of cruelty the socirty suffered and why it should be avoided.
Re: Re: Re: partially agree with him
by mandook raj on Aug 02, 2014 06:48 PM
when u say that you do not know about other religions, why do you say that if you read manusmriti you would know only cruelty? If we read shariat, we know how cruel the laws there are
Re: partially agree with him
by Umesh Verma on Aug 02, 2014 06:22 PM
Muslim have 4 limit for marriage but again marriage is allowed after breaking divorce to past married partner.
Re: Re: partially agree with him
by Aftab on Aug 02, 2014 06:40 PM
Your information is not correct. Muslims can have 4 wives at a time and divorce is not required for marrying another women. This is the reason i am suggesting we should read books of comparative religion to make people better informed person.
Re: partially agree with him
by arungopal agarwal on Aug 02, 2014 06:38 PM
Aftab all typical religion have become faded and impractical, as such anyone who is following it blindly - may be typical Hindu or Islamic or anyone else will never get fitted in in secular India. Geeta is the only answer to all such problems, as it is not a religious book it is a spiritual book, which will never change and any religion cannot change.
Re: Re: partially agree with him
by Ayesha ray on Aug 02, 2014 06:54 PM
Mr. Arungopal,
I believe it is not right to think all religions have faded.
However, cross reading between religions is a good idea.
Personally, I am sure that GITA will be proven as great, as already being thought by many learned non-Hindu westerners and people from other parts as well !!!
Re: partially agree with him
by RAJ on Aug 02, 2014 06:38 PM
No ancient scripts ( there is nothing like Hindu scripts) originated from Indian sub continent says that men marry more than once. So your statement is completely false.
Re: partially agree with him
by mandook raj on Aug 02, 2014 06:44 PM
You are totally wrong, Aftab. The anti Bigamy act bans more than one wife living. In which world are u living?
It is philosophy of life and spiritual book, whereas all religions teach system and way of life of a particular society. Geeta is above all, all religion are merged in Geeta as such must be in course, but it is to be put up in the manner in which can represent today time. This is the only secular book in the whole world.
Re: Geeta
by raju on Aug 02, 2014 06:17 PM
Please make media realize this especially people like Arnab Goswami of Times now. In prime time he will make this as subject and make this as secular vs communal. w6Bp
Re: Re: Re: Geeta
by akash agrawal on Aug 03, 2014 02:22 AM
You r right. A better remedy would be Arrabicc bactaeria infecton so that with a fit body,we can contribute in the path of jehad
Re: Geeta
by Aftab on Aug 02, 2014 06:18 PM
M You may call my mother blind, deaf, ugly but for me she is the most beautuful lady created by the creator of this universe.
