RE:isn't it a joke?
by Rajagopal Rangeshwaran on Apr 30, 2007 10:41 AM Permalink
Fantastic but before that can you please tell all brahmins to call themselves as shudras and proclaim that all shudras are equal to them.
RE:isn't it a joke?
by Murugan Murugan Murugan on Apr 30, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
No it's not Joke. I am very religious person but Periyar did a substantial work duty for the society. He said there is no God which has been described by the Brahmins to cheat and rule other people. He made TN people to think what is God and what is the real meaning of it. You can see there are so many spiritual centers in TN rather than other states in India. He was against untouchability and understand that people can not live happily with out God. The only way to show his anxiety is demanding people from all community should be given chance to become a priest. He was worried about the caste system that is why he demanded for reservation. Do you think with out reservation is there any possibilities for other caste people to get good education. Other community people never ever can compete with Brahmins in education. If there is no reservation then all our universities will be only filled with Brahmins atleast 90% (but they are minority less than 10%). This is not because other caste people are stupid. Other caste people had been refused to get education for thousands of years in India. Brahmins have been getting education since Bharath's birth. But I am not aggreeing increasing the % of reservation in higher institutes. Reservation should be slowly reduced rather than increasing. Thanks for your concern about this article.
RE:isn't it a joke?
by ravi rajesh on Apr 30, 2007 10:08 AM Permalink
thats where he stands. He even worked for the equality among the people who worshipped god. When god cant save those people and bring them as priests he did
Every leader of his time has his own thoughts and imposes on people. The caste system is the lynchpin of democracy today around which the political parties of all hues capitalize.
For their own survival, the leaders have to pursue a pet idea, of which common man is ignorant. Ignorance of the common man is the bliss of politicians or leaders.
Caste system is the main political plank in today`s politics. The leades have to approach masses for votes without any caste issue and see what happens.
In Tamil Nadu, a leader said couple of months ago that he would see to it that Tamil is introduced as the medium of instruction in all schools. Common man does not think as to who will be the victim of this kind of policy. The realization will come 20 years later, just as we see in China where one-child policy announced years ago is going to be a great disadvanatage for the country.
Religion was not created by God. Let the leaders show a reference that God is responsible for it.
Gandhi was responsible for India`s freedom. We know little of Gandhi and we talk of him based on our limited knowledge. He was a charismatic leader. How? Reading couple of books or listening from one or two sources is a not a research.
Do you know of Napolean Hill? His reserach spanned 25 years to complete a book, which is being followed scrupulously even today by many Americans.
If we have to uderstand a leader or politician properly , we have to do thourough research on him.
RE:Periyar
by Ram Sharma on Apr 30, 2007 10:21 AM Permalink
on what basis u r saying that one child policy of china is a great disadvantage for the country. without this the chinese population would have increased much. one child policy should be followed all over the world, including in india. if we do not control our population, it will creat havoc. our air and rivers are already polluted and it will increase with increase in population.
secondly simple living should be encouraged to save the environment.
'The attempt to promote 'temple entry' and 'abolition of untouchability' by the Congress leaders should not result in the tragedy of people belonging to the backward classes getting reduced to the level of scheduled castes. Instead of attempting to raise the status of Scheduled Castes (Parayans), an attempt should not be made to reduce the status of backward Class (Sudrans) by relegating them to the levels of Scheduled Castes. On no account should the existing status of Sudrans be reduced to the level of Parayans'.
'One of the main reasons why there is an upward trend in the prices of clothes and textiles is that women belonging to the Scheduled Castes (Parachies) have started wearing blouses these days. The reason for growing unemployment in society is on account of increasing number of people belonging to Scheduled Castes (Parayans) taking to school education and higher education'.
No where in the ancient shastras or the vedas or in any other scriptures we find that the marriage is symbolised with Thaali. It was a later development to depict that a woman is married that such a symbol was instituted.
Regarding the isms and the forward /backward castes, i think we have come very far away from all those things and we chave to put all those things behind us. Today all are given equal opportunity in all spheres. To be complete as a person and without provisions, we shoule see that only merit shines. Unofrtunately even now we find that "CASTE" is used to get priviledges. Those who speak, fret and fume anbout this division are those who are in othre words fanning the system of division.
the affirmative action is given in US to minority. In India reservation is given to majority who control all the powers in government every where. These people were the kings, zamindars and wealthy landlords. Why do they need reservation? Brahmins were always poor or low middle class. They never invented caste. It was already there with the people who came from different parts of the world. India was like the US of now--an immigrant nation. Many groups from different parts of the world moved in and formed their own groups. Unlike US or UK where immigrants are asked to follow local customs there was no such enforcement in India. Brahmins only tried to integrate all these castes under 4 varnas. Brahmins only integrated people. They did not invent caste, they did not divide people. All OBC, SC and ST are only following what British told them to. The brahmins were at the forefront of freedom struggle and British wanted to destroy them and thus the Indian culture. Hence they invented this crap story of brahmin domination. In reality brahmins never dominated anyone . They always served the indian poppulation. Their might be bad apples in any community. IN Brahmins in fatc the percentage of bad apples was far less. The OBCs by acting against brahmins are acting like the true slaves of the British who wanted to destroy the Indian culture and India by destroying Brahmins.
What the pepole like Gnana want to make the issue of this. Past is Past.Pepole like him will always give some air to such topics and create the fire in the society. Pepole like him who are IAS getting free money from goverment. We pepole pay tax and here they are to spoile our life. Other than making such issues if hje guide the community for education and growth it will be best.
RE:Why Now?
by on Apr 30, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
Why unnecessarily you talk about IAS and all other things? He is trying to create awareness with the present generation about the evils of caste system and he has used the person periyar as his instrument.
RE:Why Now?
by kba k on Apr 30, 2007 09:48 AM Permalink
So as the same piece of advice goes for cho ramasamy(thuklaq) and sankracharia(who is suppose to be a concentrating on sprituality).
RE:RE:Why Now?
by veera on Apr 30, 2007 09:49 AM Permalink
Manishanker Iyyer destroyed the board of Savarker at Andaman Manishnker not opposed statue of Saddham at kerala
RE:Why Now?
by Lalit Sharma on Apr 30, 2007 09:54 AM Permalink
Saddam was a hero and true patriot. Nobody has a right to interfere in another's internal affairs. Only time will tell who was right and who was wrong in this whole affair.
And ofcourse, Congress & Co. is not reliable and they have already brought another foreign rular from backdoor to Rule India. They are eating & looting our country like anything....
RE:Why Now?
by malai chamy on Apr 30, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
Hai Gajanan, We are making many films about our great leaders.This is one of them.Try to know something about periyar.And,you will not raise these questions ever.
RE:Why Now?
by Gajanan on Apr 30, 2007 10:41 AM Permalink
I will! But is it not the time to leave all this kind of stuff? to produce the movies on such a issues? as already the society is again being geting divided due to all this and other current issues like reservations...... Other than heating up these matters can we just take a back seat and see how the pepole in India needs many other important things to live a better life.
Might be well known fact... tell me the names of the cricketers from TN who played for national team? Can you show the non-brahmin from that? This is how brahmanism works! Hell with Brahmanism, so as the fate of the India along with Indian cricket!
NB: I said "brahmanism" not brahmans, so dont try to block this message. I am never agains any race, i am totally against caste-ism, not againt any caste.
RE:A cute example...
by r swamy on Apr 30, 2007 09:51 AM Permalink
Next you will say give the names of the Nobel Laureates from Tamil Nadu. For your information C.D.Gopinath and recently Balaji were not Brahmins.
RE:A cute example...
by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 09:56 AM Permalink
kba k wouldn't cast aspersion on white people, it is in very nature of racism, so he would insult any nobel laurates or ones appreciated by british.
RE:A cute example...
by shubasrikrishna on Apr 30, 2007 10:00 AM Permalink
What a foolish statement. They came to the team because of merit, not because they were Bhramins. No wonder with people like you the India does not do well in Sports
RE:A cute example...
by heramba k on Apr 30, 2007 03:29 PM Permalink
Well said KBA all the players from South were useless which explains the whole story
RE:A cute example...
by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
Please do a favour to yourself, rather than fighting or supporting RACEs. It is this RACE idea that bjp tinkered with, and anglicized people threw away the 'saffronization', now wer are firmly races.
If Periyar or his followers were against all religious worships whether idol or not, why they are not erecting a Periyar statue with inscriptions rediculing religious minded people in front of a famous mosque or church but only in front of a famous hindu shrine like Srirangam? I know they can not offend minorities or else they will be wiped out by terrorist forces in no time. All hypcrites. Periyar had good ideas for reformation and but his stupid followers are making use of it for their own selfish needs.
The author says that "His number one enemy was caste and today, we see only caste politics in Tamil Nadu". This was the problem with Periyar's approach. He demonized one caste(he famously stated"if you see a snake and a brahmin, you may let the snake go, but must kill the brahmin"), but did not really address the problem of caste based discrimination. His political children in the DMK, ADMK, MDMK, etc. are carrying on his policies, which will almost certainly bring down India as a country. Periyar was illiterate, so he could think originally, but he did not know history, nor had he developed any sense of logic. His ideas may have been relevant in 1924, but certainly not relevant today in 2007. Indians and people of Indian origin need to stop thinking of themselves to be belonging to a certain caste, or religion, and try to help each other. WE always need to look at a person's legacy after 50 and 100 years. Gandhi's ideas are accepted as great ones(although many were impractical)all over the world. Ashoka, and Akbar are still considered great rulers, although they both started badly by killing hundreds of thousands of people. Periyar's status?
RE:RE:Periyar
by bhuvanesh kumar on Apr 30, 2007 10:10 AM Permalink
The whole thing behind his ideology is clearly stated, he was clearly against Brahmin's dominance in the society, When there prevails an equality , Who is gonna discuss about the reservation, Anti-brahmin movement...
RE:Periyar
by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 09:50 AM Permalink
A different group of people had identified their no-1 enemy was caste, for they couldn;t convert enough by breaking these societies.
Periyar was there to get some power, and he allied himself with certain people.
