I agree with Rajasekaran. He is not against any individual Parpanar( brahmin). One Brahmin from Lalgudi, 20 kms east of Trichirapalli town was a great admirer of Periyar and worn black shirts , attened all Periyar Meetings.Periyar was also fought for the justice to Women in Parpanar community. We call it gender sensitization , he said it simply in his book 'pen en adimaiyanal'. Those gender specialists can found the root causes and the birth places of gender in his book such wonderful book for the gender experts and the feminists. He said that he found no god, till his life, even today no god came out and stopped all the goondas, trafficking MPs,Party that was built to build one temple in another relgion( ?!), mass killers,. He said it simply, if the god came oneday, I was the first man to declare her it is god, let us worship !". He is a practial man and wonderful humanist in the recent history than any other personalities. He never suffered by any untoward incident, only he was thrown of shoes, durng his meetings.
He is still relevant today , because, 3% parpanars( brahimns) dominate the social, political and economical polity today India, where crores of rural households who contribute much than these guys. Unles periyar came most of the non brahmins would have still in the cattle grazing and these guys will make money without sweating and rule them. For eg. in Chennai IIT, total strength is 400, Brahmins 282(70%),other Forward castes- 40(10 %)OBCs 57 ( 14%), Dalits - 3 ( 0.75%), Christians 15( 3%), Muslims- nil, Jains 3(0.75%). Is this justice to the crores of indigenous indians of the soil.They are ready to lit lamp and camphor , before the launching of PSLVs what nonsense these guys are doing till today. The Cricket BCCI team is full brahmins, only Backward Kapildev made it possible because of good qualities and true strength. All the brahmin captains failed to make india a great one. It will not happen unless the sons of soils make the team. We are sorry to speak this much. Long live periyar ideals and it will be kept as long as his ideals are relevant to us,if we need require modificiations and conditions are change positively, we will have new one, that is the principle of Periyar taught .
RE:'Periyar was against Brahminism, not Brahmins'
by veerapuram dharan on Apr 30, 2007 10:23 AM Permalink
we, the present day generations are least boithered about hoo is sitting next to us in a class in a college, school or offices...or under which caste or religious person we are working under...its the arjuns singhs and his brethrens hoo remind the peace loving ppl of all castes about the divide they create instantly..
RE:'Periyar was against Brahminism, not Brahmins'
by MOHAN PB on Apr 30, 2007 10:31 AM Permalink
Dear Akmm dvk, The best way for Dalits to progress is to get the government to open good schools with excellent faculty and facilties for select Dalit students from LKG till Class XII. they should then be left to compete in the open quota. Only then will Dalits progress. Otherwise they will remain backward. No use moaning and whining about there being no dalits in IITs. Why don't you and your family members go only to Dalit doctors who have made it to Medical College only because of the quota? It is time you guys realise how self defeating reservations are. Otherwise, one has to conclude that not only are you guys too lazy to compete and come up in life but also are too stupid to understand anything. Thanks, P.B.Mohan
RE:'Periyar was against Brahminism, not Brahmins'
by veerapuram dharan on Apr 30, 2007 10:24 AM Permalink
if u say that periyar was not against brahmins, y is mr. veeramani and co hell bent on physically assaulting brahimns where ever they are even 2day???
RE:'Periyar was against Brahminism, not Brahmins'
by Ram Sharma on Apr 30, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
for the first time today i came to know that kapil dev is a backward caste. sometime back lalu and mulayam supported baba ramdev saying that he is an yadav, i came to know about his caste. earlier i knew these people as excellent persons in their fields, without bothering to know their caste. people like Akmm dvk are keeping casteism alive, though they criticise casteism.
Periyar was against brahmins per se.That he was against brahminism but not against brahmins was a big lie. He spread hatred against brahmins till his death. He was against Hinduism and at one point encouraged conversion to islam. He is irrelevant today.It is time we realise the limitations of his thought and practices.
RE:Periyar
by ganesan iyer on Apr 30, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
People who are calling themselves as ATHEIST are richer/ politically powerful than the religious people. Periyar was a joker . Hence we are going to see a very big comedy tamil movie shortly. He preached something and practised 180 degree opposite.Even the people who are saying NO GOD have realised now and inviting Sathya Sai baba to their house, which is welcome . Let us not spread hatred, hurt any body's sentiments and always do sow the seeds of LOVE which is eternal.No body is superior / inferior before HIM.
Periyar was against BrahminisM not Brahmins , ha ha ha ha ha !!!! whose Brahminism ?? by muslims ? by christians or by buddhists ???? sounds like i am agains India not indians, ha ha ha ha ha ha , rediff please stop interviewing fools.
RE:Fools.
by Somberi on Apr 30, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
Come on my friend. Rediff has to interview someone and if fools happen to be at high places what can rediff do. Kindly cut some slack to rediff.
A man if he have some humanity in his heart definitly he will react like periyar did to bhramins. What Bhramins have done in india when they have power to rule or to control the power. It is beyond the all values of human rights.
I really want to see bhramins to beg in the street like what they have made to majority on backwards hindus they had made. I am sure it will happenen in one day.
RE:Periyar is anti Hindu or Anti Bhramin
by george yacobu on Apr 30, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
I agree with Mr Nair,in saying that if Perior was not born this Brahmins would have made India filled with only beggers by this time. I am still surprised why our Indians not recognised this even to day and falling as victims.
RE:Periyar is anti Hindu or Anti Bhramin
by Maximus Decimus Meridius on Apr 30, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
Brahmins, theoretically were supposed to live on Bhiksha anyway, Mr Nair. They were not supposed to earn their livelihood, but to depend on the charity of others. Which is why you get a major brownie point in your life if you donate to a brahmin vs an orphanage. So, what you said has been happening for centuries!
RE:Periyar is anti Hindu or Anti Bhramin
by mariappan on Apr 30, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
Mr.Nair, Your sadist dream is already taking place in plenty of places, brahmin boys are forced to quit their studies bcos of poor financial status, brahmin girls are being forced to remain unmarried again because of their financial status. All you dream is to stamp ur foot on the weak, if ur really gutsy, you should have taken on the people who massacred the nairs en masse in the second decade of last century. But i know you wont even think of it.
RE:Periyar is anti Hindu or Anti Bhramin
by Anusha R on Apr 30, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
but I am told that in Kerala from ancient times (even today) nair ladies love to have SUMBANDHAM (some bandham) with brahmins...and almost every Nair family wud have a seed of a brahmins... is it right Mr. Nair?
RE:Periyar is anti Hindu or Anti Bhramin
by Maximus Decimus Meridius on Apr 30, 2007 10:41 AM Permalink
True. Actually, the story goes that the Brahmin males imposed themselves upon the Nair females, and it was Ok, because the brahmins were "superior". I dont think it was even a marriage.
Then again, that has happened all around. When people narrate stories in ancient times of couples not having babies and going to Sages for aashirwad, and behold the lady gets pregnant, how do you suppose that really happened? Seriously?
brahmins are not the culprits for today's social divide..but its always the crooked minded ppl like the politicians hoo create this divide..in those days, it was the british and now, its the congress, laloo, mulayams, comies etc..
the periyar idealogy is obnoxious and irrelevant in today's scenario. the 3% dominating the 80 % is not relevent. The poor quality of knowledge and skill power in the so called backward caste will push India to poverty..Think of some one getting admission into medical purely on caste basis.. How he could treat the patients and operate on them ??.. Education should be only on skill based and not on caste based... This may sound irrelevent. But these periyars and ambedkars are all responsible for destruction of our country.
RE:cannt be accepted
by Indian on Apr 30, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
very well said. I am not with Brahminisn, but i believe in equal oppurtunity to everybody. if u want to compensate what happened 100 years ago, the we will go backwards by another 100 years !!!
RE:cannt be accepted
by vinodh karthik on Apr 30, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
Giri, rightly said.. education should be only on skill based and not on caste based. what the caste will do .. whether he is intelligent or idiot ? Periyar,ambedkar, MGR, karunanidhi, etc like more ppl have spoiled the country. These ppl having the temple at their house itself. In the meeting they will say they are against god. so all of them cheaters... ppl dont believe any politicans..
RE:cannt be accepted
by vidya raman on Apr 30, 2007 10:25 AM Permalink
Vinodh karthik is wrong MGR has not spoiled the education its the DMK who has spoil the education on the basis of caste & MGR is not DMK.He always gave equal changes to the dalit & up caste people on the basis of skill
RE:cannt be accepted
by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
Romilla Thapper, her 3 white partners and 3 servants can decide and impose racial analysis on Indians. Rediff columnists ( except 1) supported it, and they get an interview of thapper. 3% is quite important, though one doesn;t think it was more than 0.03%.
You are anti people.bcos Periyar raised issues for humanity.India was ruled by so called aaryans(brahmins) Who intruded from central asia.They occupied all the positions in central govt admin and judicial system.Still it continues.Aryans are barbarians.Dravidians have rich culture and civilization
RE:ANTI -NDIAN
by kannan ramachandran on Apr 30, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
Senhthinathan the aryan invasion theory is still debatable and many hsistorians are not accepting it. It is a dead theory.You are saying aryans are barbarians.But who is unleashing the atrocities against SC/ST.Is it the brahmins or any higher caste people? It is the backward class people. Who is responsible for pappapati and keeripatti.Dont bluff and put all the blame on brahmins
