RE:for the antireservation guys
by Humanist on May 01, 2007 01:35 AM Permalink
I havent read the aritcle but is'nt obvious that when you reserve 90% of seats a few deserving candidates will benefit. What is the big deal in that ? It is also obvious that a coterie will soon emerge who will then start taking advantage of the reservation to promote dynasitc tendencies.
RE:for the antireservation guys
by on May 01, 2007 01:37 AM Permalink
In TN, 89% of the population is put under reserved category...
So how do you term it as a success?
Can you please explain?
How is that Multimillionaires, Finance Ministers, Chief Ministers, Owners of big Television Companies and College owners and Real estate Magnates enjoy reservation?
India minus tamil nadu is great . Enter tamil nadu and u would know who you are. Ask for water you would not get it unless you ask it in TAMIL. !!!!!!!!! i have had this experience no kidding.
RE:tamil nadu!!!!!!!
by Humanist on May 01, 2007 01:38 AM Permalink
I too have experienced numerous problems with the hostile aggressive attitudes of Tamilians with respect to their language. They think it is a sin not to know Tamil
RE:tamil nadu!!!!!!!
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 01:49 AM Permalink
of course,when u r in tamilnadu,u have to buy a teach urself tamil book and try to speak in tamil. when u r in karnataka,u have to buy a teach urself kannada book and try to speak in kannada.
RE:tamil nadu!!!!!!!
by on May 01, 2007 02:08 AM Permalink
Mr Dinesh, are you really a Tamil?
Virundombal is supposed to be highlight of Tamil Culture. We may have so many difference, but we should respect and welcome any visitor to TN and not demand him or her to know language and learn in 24 hours. Guest is GOD .
RE:tamil nadu!!!!!!!
by Humanist on May 01, 2007 01:54 AM Permalink
I have better things to do than learn Tamil. I thought English was enough as a link language. I certainly didnt expect the hostile stares I was given when I asked a person question in English.
RE:tamil nadu!!!!!!!
by Rohit Nigam on May 01, 2007 02:27 AM Permalink
english - international language, hindi - national language. tamil - local language.
if i want to just survive happily, english / hindi should work. if i want to make good rapport with the local community, i SHOULD speak in tamil.
RE:tamil nadu!!!!!!!
by Rahul on May 01, 2007 02:43 AM Permalink
Mr. Nigam Hindi is not a National Language. It is one of the Official Languages of Union of India. I am not justifying that people should learn Tamil when you are in Tamilnadu, but i do see a lot of hype here about you are not given Water when you don't ask in tamil and that is unbeleivable. Do not take one or two examples and show hatred toward the entire community.
Learning a language should be reciprocative. If you dont want to learn any Dravidian Languages then do not push the concept of South Indians learning Hindi. Just as a FYI, I am a tamilian who can read, write and speak Hindi.
RE:tamil nadu!!!!!!!
by Onlooker on May 01, 2007 04:42 AM Permalink
If you want to survive, English and your mother tongue should do! Would you please spare us from the burden of learning another languague Hindi?
All these views and reviews are welcomed against the Brahmins . But has anybody ever thought after so amny humiliations also Br tahmins does not raise their voice against injustice any where at least in the name of religion or caste . It is always the other people who taken the advantage of being born non-brahmin.Does any one believes that these UNWANTED BRAHMINS needs completely to be nonexisters in this current society . DO you believe that they should be driven out of INDIA into Pakistan ..or may be to Bangladesh ...?
Then Let the govt take some steps towards that .Why trust the guys who spread the hatred in society in the name of socialism ,and bla bla bla ...these people are hypocartes . Brahmins are only 1% of total population , But they create vote for about 300 MPs from another 80% people by creating hatred ..
RE:against Brahmanism
by on May 01, 2007 01:15 AM Permalink
A bigger question i have is ? Is the existence or non existence of a particular caste (say Brahmins) alone cause or solution for all problems we face?
There are no Brahmins in Afghanistan, in Bangladesh, in Myanmar and in Laos - Why is that those countries are worse than India in all aspects of economics and social development?
There are no Brahmins in the 45 nations of Sub Saharan africa, so are they problem free and prospering and thriving?
Why is whole social issue (of past caste discrimination) made into a issue of whether a caste is bad or not? What a Nazist Nonsense?
RE:against Brahmanism
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 01:26 AM Permalink
if u read the interview,u will realise that the target was brahminism.and the name was selfrespect.if someone gains selfrespect why should someone else feel in peril?
RE:against Brahmanism
by on May 01, 2007 01:32 AM Permalink
Self Respect was all right 70 years back... today, the targeted caste is not even 0.5% of Government . Then what is the need to continue the same language? Even last week the Karunanidhi said in Assembly that one caste will be taught a lesson if they dont behave properly. And you can read Viduthalai kind of magazines to understand further on this. (And whenever a Periyar statue is broken - mostly by DK volunteers themselves, they attack and hurt some poor brahmins in some unrelated places). Why?
RE:[object]
by on May 01, 2007 01:35 AM Permalink
When it comes to Woman's Rights, Periyar and their followers never believed it seriously...
Periyar himself openly was a playboy in his earlier part of life and his first wife (Nagammai) suffered silently.
And then his second wife, a marriage to someone who would be like his daughter in his age.
Karunanidhi has 3 wives and MGR too had multiple spouses. And the person acting - Satyaraj himself has a dubious record on women's matters and he(Satyaraj) has wasted crores in trying to make his own son as hero, even as his daughter is asked to study MBA and forget Film Industry. Hypocrisy at its best.
RE:against Brahmanism
by Humanist on May 01, 2007 01:30 AM Permalink
There is not much credibility attached to the interview. Anyhow we came to know that Periyar was a sybaritic person who had the opporunity to get good education but chose not to. He talks of rights of women yet has a 2nd marriage in his old age.
RE:against Brahmanism
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 01:33 AM Permalink
so u have read about periyar to the extent that u cant believe what the filmmaker says?
RE:against Brahmanism
by Humanist on May 01, 2007 01:39 AM Permalink
what is to be gained by learning about such figures as Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler and Periyar. They all employ same tactics only the excuse is diffrent in each case.
RE:against Brahmanism
by Rohit Nigam on May 01, 2007 02:34 AM Permalink
sounds like ethinic cleansing :-) ... wow ... I AM RELIVING THE HITLER TIMES !!!! Thanks a lot ...
RE:Reservation in TAMILNADU
by on May 01, 2007 01:07 AM Permalink
Actually Periyar originally said that Reservation should be only for those who are not belonging to the Kshathriya, Vaishya and Brahmana Groups , since those groups did not suffer due to casteism of the past.
But in TN, the big Communities which are Kshatriyas (Landlords/Soliders/Warriors) and Vaishyas (Traders/Rich Businessmen) are categorised as OBCs.
kerala is no better. P Chidambaram belongs to the wealthy and socially powerful Natukkottai Chettiars and they are personally very wealthy and own textile businesses. But as per reservation rules, P ChiDambaram's grand daughter is a OBC in Kerala and she will enjoy reservation in Kerala. How is it?
are a best indication of how caste-based violent politics dominates TN today. Most of the heroes of Tamil movies employ violent means usually involving the sickles dripping with blood.
RE:[object]
by on May 01, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
In UP, Mayawathi has called for a social coalition of Dalits, Baniyas(Traders), Brahmins, Muslims and Thakurs for greater well being of the state.
Why dont we hear such a statement from Karunanidhi or Tirumavalavan or Ramdoss?
RE:Tamil movies
by on May 01, 2007 01:18 AM Permalink
Periyarists are always known to claim Ambedkar as a Periyarist... but the two differed on many many issues. Ambedkar may have lot of bad things to say on Hinduism, but he was a nationalist, who believed in unity of India. Periyar was certainly not one. His hatred towards North India (including North Indian OBCs, whom he hated equally) is legendary.
RE:Tamil movies
by Humanist on May 01, 2007 01:21 AM Permalink
moreover Ambedkar was well educated and he had the foresight to suggest reservations for only 10 years.
RE:Tamil movies
by on May 01, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
Funnily in Tamil Movies, the Hero is always shown as a Dravidian (dark skinned) but heroine is always fairer than a European. How is it possible?
Is it that Social Justice and Periyarism does not apply to women?
RE:Tamil movies
by west on May 01, 2007 01:10 AM Permalink
Recently, tamil movies have really turned violent with blood dripping sickels becoming common. Slowly it will move to real life and real people too start doing that. After all, cinema actors are gods in TN.
All this is the result of GOD devoted people leaving TN. What else proof does any one need that TN is going down.
These so called secularist leaders have made enough fun of Democracy. After 60 years of independence - Indian secularist leaders proved one thing - that Democracy is only for muscle and money power, and vote bank politics. They proved that it's not for common man.
For a while, we need president's rule in India -where all are given equal treatment which is really secular - what democracy means. Is it possible, at all in India???
RE:Enough of making mockery of Democracy
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 01:00 AM Permalink
which partys membership do u hold? the party that watches tv and grandstands.
RE:Enough of making mockery of Democracy
by west on May 01, 2007 01:05 AM Permalink
I donot hold any party's membership .. That's why I'm able to give my above opinion... Grow up!!!
RE:RE:RE:Instead of doing his duty
by VIJAYA BUDDHIRAJU on May 01, 2007 01:01 AM Permalink
And the Indian tax payer is paying his salary and where ever he goes he gets police escort and we pay for his travel-and he promotes scum and hatred.
RE:Instead of doing his duty
by Humanist on May 01, 2007 01:22 AM Permalink
nope and how does it matter. All i know is he is now making a movie at a time when he should be working.
RE:Instead of doing his duty
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 01:35 AM Permalink
u can try the movie, a marathi actor played the title role,it has beautiful music.
