I received many brickbats from mallus when I said Mohanlal and KH were over rated, thats all. Some idiot stated that it takes decades to reach their acting level and they have won so many national awards. Everyone knows the kind of lobbying that goes into national awards. If they were fair, then Mohanlal would have won just once or maybe not. Similarly, a Amitabh Bachchan or a Konkana Sen or Pankaj Kapur would have won them.
I do not understand why mallus took it so personally. I have a right to post that I find these actors over rated. Now I know that mallus want them to be over rated... out of no reason.
RE:Over rated
by santosh kasi on Feb 22, 2008 03:29 PM
have you watched any of the good movies of the above said actors pls do and pass your judgement after that I dont think you will have the same opinion
RE:Over rated
by Radhakrishnan V on Feb 22, 2008 03:27 PM
mallus collectively couldn t lobby for a railway zone..you think they lobbied for national awards for the actors?
RE:Over rated
by Rajesh kooventavida on Feb 22, 2008 03:46 PM
I think you are naive about those two film stars, so i f u have written them like that its not your fault, but please here after have some idea our knowledge on the subject before you write. Both the actors are the finest in the indain cinedom so this film would definitely be a treat to watch irrespective of how the film does at box office (many a times, good moviea are not recognised). So, if you have not seen any of their movie, its a chance for people like you to eat their own words.
RE:Over rated
by Prashant Sharma on Feb 22, 2008 03:47 PM
i seems that just for the sake of writing something u have written something .... true, that everyone has his/her opinion... same applies to others also, u cann't call idiot if someone has different opinion form urs opinion abt mohanlal and kamal hassan.... like in my opinion both are great actors and it will be a treat to watch both of them actiong together...
RE:Over rated
by abhilash nair on Feb 22, 2008 05:11 PM
hi c hindi film is nothg other than body show nd skin show........acting is a talent which even you cant even amitabh is not perfect in that..he himself told manytimes mohanlal is a great actor and respect him ...good that you may not believe but if kamal and mohanlal are 2 g8 actors u cant compare them with anybody as of now in india.........
RE:Over rated
by Jiji Nair on Feb 22, 2008 03:39 PM
Mr.Vinay after reading u r comment I came to know u r really an IDIOT. You can%u2019t understand what is acting because u r regularly watching BULL SHIT Hindi Movies(90% will be over acting). So I don%u2019t surprise. It%u2019s not u r problem .It%u2019s u r inability.
RE:RE:Over rated
by Vinay Joshi on Feb 22, 2008 04:02 PM
Not really. I have said this after watching those channels as well as other movies. I have stated what I have only after that. You didnt know that, so obviously you are the idiot to the core if you cant understand whats best. No wonder no entrepreneurs come from your state, apart from being riddled with strikes all the time. Just like UP/biharis you also travel away from your state but have your attraction towards your own state which gave you nothing. An idiot to the core, you are. Also a gaddar and a worthless fellow.
RE:Over rated
by joe on Feb 22, 2008 04:25 PM
thats totally absurd buddy.. average person born in kerala gets to live atleast 10 years more than an indian.. the state is giving them somethng if you value life. Add to that a decent state sponsored education and good health facilities.. Of course they are not provided decent jobs...
RE:RE:RE:Over rated
by sreeram subramanian on Feb 24, 2008 01:22 AM
Come on Vinay, it seems u r confuse. Here we r not talking abt politics or strike, but about these really talented actors, samjhe?
RE:Over rated
by PN on Feb 22, 2008 03:25 PM
This shows u havent wateched even a single movie of Mohanlal. If u dont have data to back ur comment pls dont comment such nonsense
RE:Over rated
by Vinay Joshi on Feb 22, 2008 03:58 PM
I have watched Company and I liked him in that. WHo said they are not good actors.. All I am saying is that they are not the best
RE:Over rated
by sreeram subramanian on Feb 24, 2008 01:18 AM
Mr.Vinay, for ur kind information, National award is given to actors on the basis of one particular years performance and it is obvious that some good actors may miss out due to many reasons like the one who finally won it might have acted ina movie which is of gr8 importance to society etc. Also who told u Mal film stars r lobbying, had they done it they would have won national awards every yr, isn't it? Its' SRK who was lobbying for his movies like Asoka to get an Oscar entry.
RE:Over rated
by P on Feb 23, 2008 01:03 AM
So much of prejudice..If Mohanlal was born in Hindi, you would have bee singing a different song alltogether..You just saw 1 film on him.. pity you.. that too Hindi which is not his forte. How abt comparing Sharuk doing a malayalam movie??
- Mohanlal was praised by serious film lovers at Cannes, told this actor is born on the wrong place of globe and there were people asking for his autographs...(no lobbying there) - He did 2 hr sanskrit play ...the audience at Delhi was so immersed in it they forgot as it ended..(no lobbying there) - Renato Berta, the camera director of vanaprastham was filled with tears (no lobbying there) - Mani Ratnam commented that he is the most natural actor of the country (no lobbying there)
Please make it a point to watch atleast those movies that he got "lobbied" national awards..and judge yourself if the award is justified. Atleast for once be truthful in life.
RE:Over rated
by joe v on Feb 22, 2008 03:26 PM
Mohan lal has won special achievement awards from Cannes film festival, a Golden peocock award etc. none of the other Indian actors have won so much acclaim have they?
Moreover, acclaims aside, He's a seasoned actor who has this infinite sets of expressions especially in a theatrical scene. However, sadly, the only guys to really appreciate this guy's value are the film makers themselves.
RE:Over rated
by Raja R on Feb 22, 2008 03:23 PM
I am not a malayalee but I feel both are great actors.can u please tell me who / what according to you is good acting?
RE:will dasavatharam click ? Afraid
by DINESH BABU on Feb 22, 2008 03:50 PM
We are remembering past experiments like Avvai Shanmuki, Apoorva Sagothararkal, Indian etc which are block busters
RE:will dasavatharam click ? Afraid
by Matt on Feb 22, 2008 09:39 PM
Maybe your saying this since his previous films "Hey Ram" and "Mumbai Express" did not click at the box office highly, but it did do moderatley well accross the country.
But kamal hassan is not foolish to do such a huge budget film and expect the audience to not count on tht film.
RE:RE:Phew
by Vinay Joshi on Feb 22, 2008 03:02 PM
I dont know you and you still abuse me. My posting had justifications. I guess that explains your up-bringing, the kind of profession your mother and sister must be in, your fatherss...
RE:Phew
by harz on Feb 22, 2008 03:13 PM
We shd be happy that atleast now there are some good movies coming in Bollywood like Chak de, TZP, inspite of bikini babes, unnecessary onsite hipes with waste story lines !! All talented technicians are from south , mainly from TN like Manirathnam, shankar, AR rehman, ilayaraja, Ravi k chandran ..ram gopal vatma(from AP) and may more to list.! bollywood is surving due to these technicians. Also imagine ... if Manirathnam or ARR has not worked for bollywood ..still they would not have been aware of such classy movie or a classy music. Still they would have stucked to 'lalala'music !!! They have to Grow Up still !!
RE:Phew
by laloosh krishnan on Feb 22, 2008 02:59 PM
Boollywod films runs only because of Heroines skin show but Malayalam films runs because of the story and acting. Afterall can you please tell me who all in bollywood knows acting
RE:Phew
by anup pillai on Feb 22, 2008 03:09 PM
By posting ur viewz, u have clearly shown ur IQ level dude. Check out the no. of national awards won by the 3 big names u have mentioned & u wil c wat theze actors mean 2 Indian Cinema.
And regarding the kind of moviez that are made, I wud rather not let a person so ignorant like u 2 knw abt it. It requires serious IQ 2 value them & people with IQ knwz wat kind of stories come frm South Indian filmz....so alwayz chk ur facts before makin such commentz....ohtherwize u wud end up exposing ur non IQ attribute to everyone
RE:Phew
by SUJATHA KUMAR on Feb 22, 2008 03:02 PM
You take the top three south indian actors kamal, mammootty & mohanlal and compared to the national awards they have won together, the top three actors in bollywood have never won a single award (apart from amitabh) till now and they will not get one forever, that is their calibre. kamal holds 3 national and around 18 filmfare awards, is there any other moron in bollywood who can come close to hold a candle to them... get lost u bihari.....
RE:RE:Phew
by Vinay Joshi on Feb 22, 2008 03:07 PM
Everyone knows the kind of lobbying that goes into National awards. They are a laugh. Someone like a Maniratnam or Adoor Gopalkrishnan "recommends" them and they get it. National awards sadly and because of lobbying cannot be regarded as a parameter.
RE:RE:RE:Phew
by sreeram subramanian on Feb 24, 2008 01:27 AM
Hey Vinay, Mani Ratnam and Adoor Gopalakrishnan are reals stalwarts of Indian film industry and they are great judges of talent, not on the basis of region, but sheer performance and not like ur one dimentional mentality.
RE:RE:RE:Phew
by Matt on Feb 22, 2008 09:49 PM
Adoor Gopalakrishan and Mani Ratnam have numerous awards for their films at the international film festivals.
Even moreso thn national awards in india or any other film awards in indian film festivals across the country.
Now ur goin to say tht those two directors lobbyied for winning in international film festivals, where their standard of judging films is like einstein. And where indian films judging films ar still like 3rd graders.
Come on, check the national awards list and see those movies tht made kamal hassan and mohanlal to deserve to win.
Likewise, shabana aszmi and tabu ar the only actress from bollywood tht totally deserve to win national awrds 4 their movies. But most of their movies wer off beat and even in urdu.
But certainly rekha did not deserve to win national award for he perf. in umrao jaan, sure she desrved to be on the list but not win it.
I even think sri devi should hav won a few awards for her perfomancesmore so thn tabu.
RE:Phew
by SK on Feb 22, 2008 03:00 PM
Great, get an appointment with a Phsychiatrist soon.
FYI the IQ levels of Mohanlal-watching people (keralites) and south indians in general and much much higher than the illiterate cattle rearing northies.
Sorry bro, you opened the pandora's box here...by which you attested yourself to being a true blue northie - full of hate and superiority complex and nothing else. You people stink - person as well as character.
Go watch your silly hindi movies which are all sound, fury, stupidity and nothing more. And your bloody saas bahu serial crap.
RE:RE:Phew
by Nikhil on Feb 22, 2008 03:12 PM
Though bollywood is largest film producing induatry, we indians are unique as cenema is concerned. Each state produces movies and each region has it's heroes and heroines. The battle of words and at the same time region should not come here. We as patriats should not fight like this. So many times it has happened that a superhit hindi movie is remade in southern language with change in actors and vice versa, it has flopped miserably. The cultures, the social structures, the geographical conditions, and even languages change in India after every 5 kms. What weshould show here is not the hatred for each other but prove that we are unity in diversity! Like Amitabh Bachhan, Rajanikant, Mamooti, Mohanlal who do not play the role as diverse as it can be, we should enjoy acting as such!
RE:Phew
by santha kumar on Feb 22, 2008 02:55 PM
You see the literacy level in north and south. And bollywood is matured?????? hehehehehe... Fully exposing means matured?????
RE:Phew
by rajesh nair on Feb 22, 2008 02:58 PM
It shows how ignorant you are about the Indian films. Bengali, Malayalam, kannada films produced world class films, directors and actors....
RE:Phew
by Swami Aravind on Feb 22, 2008 03:06 PM
Vinay Joshi: I think it takes generations for you ppl to reach the standard of South Indians. Meantime enjoy your "Prem", "Jeevan", "Sathi" "Duniya" etc......... movies and rubbish from your "Bollywood".
RE:Phew
by humanist on Feb 22, 2008 03:15 PM
Most hilarious post ever made on rediff...
How you will get to see Bolllywood movies if Malayalees, Tamilians, Bengalis & Kannadigas wont release movies...
Last successful bollywood movies were all those are remake of malayalam movies.
This fooI reminds me of one incidence when Anil Kapoor took a crappy hindi award for a movie. He told hindi movies really deserved awards. Incidently the award he took at that moment was for a Mallu movie remade in hindi :)
Such a pain fellows, no doubt why even marathis hate you people...
Hindi movies learned art of making good movies after Amir Khan and few of his likes started doing it....
For several years only Tamil and south movies were remade and successful in cowbelt such that there is a saying in malayalam 'hindi repeats whatever happens in Kerala after five years'
RE:RE:Phew
by Prashant Sharma on Feb 22, 2008 04:06 PM
u call urself humanist !!! how can u buddy... just trying to satisfy ur ego.... let me tell u people in general don't hate each other... it is people like you who try to spread hatred just for the sake of satisfying ur false ego and for ur personal profit.... i was in chennai for quiet a long time and i had a wonderful experinece....an many south indians are my friends in noida also.... spreading hatred doesn't insure u a high IQ level :-)
RE:RE:RE:Phew
by Rajeev on Feb 22, 2008 04:14 PM
Learning points from Prashant ,, "insure IQ level" bcoz of this you had a wonder"fool" expereience in Chennai... Spare Noida or else you will accelerate the fast receding North brains too...
RE:RE:RE:RE:Phew
by Prashant Sharma on Feb 22, 2008 04:28 PM
i can just laugh at ur reply...don't know if that is becuase of ur IQ level or mine.... what i know is that we all are indians and should respect each other..... taking birth in a specific region doesn't guarantee u a brain....
RE:Phew
by Pradip Rabindranath on Feb 22, 2008 03:02 PM
Films made anywhere are for a particular audience and by and large they are not bad. If one understands the culture of a particular region, films of that region are better appreciated.
Therefore making comparisons across regions would only be a fool-hardy exercise.
RE:RE:Phew
by Vinay Joshi on Feb 22, 2008 03:05 PM
Culture, yes. You are right in that regard that movies reflect the culture they are set in or the kind they are made for. But why should they be over rated and why should people post that they are the best in the world, when everyone knows the kind of lobbying that goes into National awards - they go to the undeserving. Even Raveena Tandon and Anil Kapoor won them.
There is a certain standard even when movies are made pertaining to a certain culture. And if Mohanlal or KH movies are just about that, why are they over rated?
RE:To all Northies here
by shanthipriya on Feb 22, 2008 03:40 PM
SK let us be logical. Most of this north south divide is created by anti Hindustanis who use psuedonyms. Let us not fall in to their trap
RE:To all Northies here
by SK on Feb 22, 2008 03:56 PM
I can see your point Santhi...These could be ant-national elements.
And prasanth, I am not against any section of people. But its plain disgusting to see so much venom poured in here. And whether they are actual people or miscreants, I have noticed they pop in only on blogs where southern cinema or actors are discussed. Somehow I couldn't take it.
Anyways, glad you guys are sane at least...I also learn its better to deal with normal real-life people than reading these blogs and reacting in the same coin :-)
RE:To all Northies here
by Prashant Sharma on Feb 22, 2008 03:34 PM
for that u can not accuse all the northies...if u do , there is not much diffrence between you and the northies you are talking about....
RE:?????????
by Prashant Sharma on Feb 22, 2008 03:51 PM
come on neeraj, we need to understand that we all are indians..... i don't uderstand how can educated people fall in the trap of regionalism, castism, racism.....
RE:project manager
by JP on Feb 22, 2008 02:21 PM
"He was killed as he shielded and brought that injured soldier into the bunker. Every morning thereafter, as we stood guard, I could see him taking all those bullets, which were actually meant for me. I know sir....I know, what it is to be in the Line of Fire."
Vivek looked at him in disbelief not sure of how to respond. Abruptly, he switched off the laptop. It seemed trivial, even insulting to edit a Word document in the presence of a man for whom valour and duty was a daily part of life; valour and sense of duty which he had so far attributed only to epical heroes.
The train slowed down as it pulled into the station, and Subedar Sushant picked up his bags to alight.
"It was nice meeting you sir."
Vivek fumbled with the handshake. This hand... had climbed mountains, pressed the trigger, and hoisted the tricolour. Suddenly, as if by impulse, he stood up at attention and his right hand went up in an impromptu salute.
It was the least he felt he could do for the country.
RE:project manager
by JP on Feb 22, 2008 02:18 PM
This was something big and beyond his imagination. "You design and code such things."
"I used to," Vivek paused for effect, "but now I am the Project Manager."
"Oh!" sighed the man, as if the storm had passed over, "so your life is easy now."
This was like the last straw for Vivek. He retorted, "Oh come on, does life ever get easy as you go up the ladder. Responsibility only brings more work. Design and coding! That is the easier part. Now I do not do it, but I am responsible for it and believe me, that is far more stressful. My job is to get the work done in time and with the highest quality. To tell you about the pressures, there is the customer at one end, always changing his requirements, the user at the other, wanting something else, and your boss, always expecting you to have finished it yesterday."
Vivek paused in his diatribe, his belligerence fading with self-realization. What he had said, was not merely the outburst of a wronged man, it was the truth. And one need not get angry while defending the truth. "My friend," he concluded triumphantly, "you don't know what it is to be in the Line of Fire".
The man sat back in his chair, his eyes closed as if in realisation. When he spoke after sometime, it was with a calm certainty that surprised Vivek.
"I know sir, I know what it is to be in the Line of Fire." He was staring blankly, as if no passenger, no train existed, just a vast expanse of time. "There were 30 of us when we were
RE:project manager
by JP on Feb 22, 2008 02:18 PM
Vivek smiled deprecatingly. Naiveness demanded reasoning not anger. "It is not as simple as that my friend. It is not just a question of writing a few lines. There is a lot of process that goes behind it."
For a moment, he was tempted to explain the entire Software Development Lifecycle but restrained himself to a single statement. "It is complex, very complex."
"It has to be. No wonder you people are so highly paid," came the reply.
This was not turning out as Vivek had thought. A hint of belligerence crept into his so far affable, persuasive tone. " Everyone just sees the money. No one sees the amount of hard work we have to put in. Indians have such a narrow concept of hard work. Just because we sit in an air-conditioned office, does not mean our brows do not sweat. You exercise the muscle; we exercise the mind and believe me that is no less taxing." He could see, he had the man where he wanted, and it was time to drive home the point.
"Let me give you an example. Take this train. The entire railway reservation system is computerized. You can book a train ticket between any two stations from any of the hundreds of computerized booking centres across the country. Thousands of transactions accessing a single database, at a time concurrently; data integrity, locking, data security. Do you understand the complexity in designing and coding such a system?"
The man was awestruck; quite like a child at a planetarium.
RE:project manager
by JP on Feb 22, 2008 02:20 PM
The man sat back in his chair, his eyes closed as if in realisation. When he spoke after sometime, it was with a calm certainty that surprised Vivek.
"I know sir, I know what it is to be in the Line of Fire." He was staring blankly, as if no passenger, no train existed, just a vast expanse of time. "There were 30 of us when we were ordered to capture Point 4875 in the cover of the night. The enemy was firing from the top. There was no knowing where the next bullet was going to come from and for whom. In the morning when we finally hoisted the tricolour at the top only 4 of us were alive."
"You are a...?"
"I am Subedar Sushant from the 13 J&K Rifles on duty at Peak 4875 in Kargil. They tell me I have completed my term and can opt for a soft assignment. But, tell me sir, can one give up duty just because it makes life easier. On the dawn of that capture, one of my colleagues lay injured in the snow, open to enemy fire while we were hiding behind a bunker. It was my job to go and fetch that soldier to safety. But my captain sahib refused me permission and went ahead himself. He said that the first pledge he had taken as a Gentleman Cadet was to put the safety and welfare of the nation foremost followed by the safety and welfare of the men he commanded.......his own personal safety came last, always and every time."
"He was killed as he shielded and brought that injured soldier into the bunker. Every morning thereafter, as we stood guard, I could
RE:Dasavataram ??
by Sebastian A on Feb 22, 2008 03:57 PM
Dasavatharam - Haasan acts in 10 distinctive roles, becoming the first actor in the world to do so.
Reply for Rahul Singh.... from south: YOUR ARE BORN FOR Dasavatharam FATHER's ........................... ARE U HAPPY NOW !!!
RE:RE:Dasavataram ??
by hari pk on Feb 24, 2008 02:16 PM | Hide message
the only unknown thing is who is rahul singhs father...there are millions of singhs in india... shudn't u be more worried about that...
RE:Dasavataram ??
by LK Advani on Feb 22, 2008 03:52 PM
poda maaire
RE:Dasavataram ??
by santosh kasi on Feb 22, 2008 03:35 PM
dasavatharam is the name of the new film in which Kamal hasan has 10 different roles it is a mega budget film from a very reputed director from south it promises to be a cool film, try to watch it
RE:RE:RE:Dasavataram ??
by MOHAN V on Feb 22, 2008 02:49 PM
In our ancient puranas, it was told that Lord Vishnu has 10 avatars to weed out the different evil from this world...One of them is Ram avatar about which Ramayan was wrote.
RE:Kamal
by sri on Feb 22, 2008 03:04 PM
To Rahul and To Everyone here, I had no intentions to hurt MohanLal's fans, nor do I under estimate his acting skills. I do consider him as one of the best actors of India. But my point was being a good actor does it mean that he will fit in any kind of role / character?
I just can't imagine Mohanlal or even Kamalhasan in commando attire and trying to solve hijack issue where hard core militants are involved. It is just not convincing at all!
The Indian cinema always fails to scale the heights though it is got all the potential to come out with really good and even oscar winning movies.
RE:Kamal
by YUNESH UNNIKRISHNAN on Feb 23, 2008 12:10 PM
this is the reason why hindi film actor have few national awards.malayalam films and actors are true to life inlike hindi films. You can tolerate srk for his overacting???
Can you register words in your brain in the right way.
The movie wer the director is planning to make it w/lal and kamal does not state the story, the producer, the composer and even the characters.
Thn how can you say tht lal and kamal are goin to do a commando role and try to solve the hijack militants involved.
The story and the sketch of the characters wer not at all disclosed by the director in this article.
Please do not jump into conlcusions.
Kamal and Lal are actors, thy ar not army officers,dwarfs,classical dancers,casanovas,man pretending to be woman(chachi 420), communists, loving a woman who is in 20s.
So wht actors have to do is just portray the characters of diffrnt. spectrums and thy only need to look convincing if they are provided an excellent character by the writer. Otherwise, actors don't show up themselves as any character on the sets.
RE:Kamal
by sivakumar subramoniam on Feb 22, 2008 05:08 PM
oscar award is not meant for best movie in the world.it is only for american movies.so don't be upset over not getting oscar.there are other prestigious awards like cannes,toronto,tokyo,iffi,our own national award etc.for getting oscar award the movie has to do well in north america(read USA).
RE:Kamal
by PN on Feb 22, 2008 03:31 PM
U jus dont have any knowledge or idea abt anything then y hell have u cum here. to ask such idiotic doubts? Such a waste
RE:Kamal
by Jai on Feb 22, 2008 02:15 PM
I Think Rahul singh is a dumb guy who is putting questions like where is Kerala?, Mohanlal is Gujarathi or marwadi actor.....?????????????. Atleast use google to improve ur knowledge.
RE:Kamal
by SP on Feb 22, 2008 02:04 PM
How you can tell like that? Mohanlal is a great actor who won National Award 3 times. Mr. for art and culture dont make comments on the basis of regionalism. You hate South or south indian actors, but dont criticise a great artist. The talent of an actor is above caste, region, religion everything. Mohanlal's acting in various films were appreciated by Amitabh Bachan and other heroes of Hindi also. You make your mind more broad and dont post such cheap comments.
RE:Kamal
by Manali Thomas on Feb 22, 2008 02:12 PM
Well said..dost. Those idiots who can enjoy Bhojpuri films should watch Mohanlal in "Company' and kamal in 'Appu Raja'. If they dont bite the dust, they will have to stop seeing any films. I mentioned 'Company' becasue these punks dont understand Malayalam language. Let them enjoy Bhojpuri films only and bathe with Mustard oil,drink mutard oil, sleep in Mustard oil
Make a movie on China agents - Karat, Bhardan, Raja etc, who are quiet and supporting China for their statements on Arunachal Pradesh - Traitors of motherland.
RE:MOVIE ON LEFTISTS
by dennis john on Feb 22, 2008 01:56 PM
why not a fim base of demolition ofdisputed structure in Ayodhya.LK Advani.Narasimha rao,and RSS leaders plaotted how to demolish the structure and later Advani Told it was demolished by antinational elements
RE:MOVIE ON LEFTISTS
by acharya on Feb 22, 2008 03:26 PM
hey hemachundar, cut ur d-ck off. its useless anyways. you can wear a sari and marry a real man.
