Hi folks, I have been working in a small firm for last two years... Now i have got an offer from a MNC package is higher than my current organization but it is same as they used to offer freshers in their organiztion. I m getting bit egoist here ...
Pls suggest me shall i accept their offer or not ??
RE:pls help me...??
by kapil thakur on Mar 21, 2007 11:27 AM
dont accept the offer unless they are ready to pay as per industry standards and according to your experience. six months ago i also faced a similar situation and i rejected that offer. now a days i m getting offers as per industry standards. so a couple of months wait would help you big time if are firm on your decisions. oppurtunities will keep knocking at your door. In short - "Dont choose the first offer; choose the best offer"
RE:RE:pls help me...??
by Evangelizer on Mar 21, 2007 05:33 PM
So u mean to say that offers with pay as per industry standards are the best offers .... !!... Nah... get your thinking right man... A best offer need not necessarily be best paid in the industry....
I faced this situation quite recently...... On hindsight, I must say that one needs to take care of own interests in such cases and choose the option which gives the career the biggest boost..........Akhilesh
i have a very strange problem. i am working in a good co.. the salary is OK. . but i got the job through one of my close relatives, who has very good terms with my cos. management. now , i have got a good offer from other co. what should i do? since this linked to my relatives
RE:choice between two cos.
by Attract Ivist on Mar 20, 2007 06:09 PM
don't switch if you are happy with your current organization. No matter where you work and how much you get, it's always possible to get a better offer. However if you have decided to move on, don't worry about such silly issues like hurting relatives. Resign; who knows your employer might want to review your compensation.
RE:choice between two cos.
by Evangelizer on Mar 21, 2007 05:35 PM
I hope atleast in this other company you got the job through merit... or is it that you had 'close relatives' there also ?
RE:choice between two cos.
by kapil thakur on Mar 21, 2007 11:31 AM
dont change ur organisation unless the offer is too good to reject. you know everyone in ur current office and also have good relations with people and u r satisfied with ur job too. building relations takes time which u already have done here. so give ample thought to every possible situation.
RE:choice between two cos.
by Nilanjana D on Mar 20, 2007 05:39 PM
Career first my dear friend!Depends on your confidence and challenge to take the new job!
Career growth, exposure, monetary gain etc are very subjective things and vary from person to person. There are few things one should look at before joining a company. 1. Ask yourself why you are changing your current company. If it's money, don't go to another company for mere 10-20% hike. If it's work, make sure that the work is good before joining. If it's your supervisor, do a thorough background search on your reporting manager in the next company before joining. 2. Have multiple offers and negotiate. Otherwise you would get heavily exploited. Don't get carried away by the HR talks of ensuring fairness among employees and offering you as per your strength. Recently when I was looking out, one giant MNC offered me the same salary that I was getting in my previous company just because I said my company was not doing well and I didn't have any other offer in hand. After that I went on to get couple of more offers, negotiated and got 70% hike in my salary in that company. So that's the kind of margin they have. 3. Make sure that you don't offend anybody while negotiating. Be nice and reply timely. Say you need some time to think about the offer in case you want to buy some time to check the other offers. And the toughest part is to say no to other companies once you have decided on one. Best practise is to send an email as soon as you make up your mind. If possible, go and meet the HR and explain why you have decided to join the other company. One argument that always works is that you have decided to stay back in the same company as they have addressed most of your issues. However if you are still in the mode of negotiating, tell them the truth. It works.
RE:offer A or B
by Evangelizer on Mar 21, 2007 05:40 PM
In Point 2 you are talking of the kind of 'Margin".. my dear friend.. you cannot look at a job as a commodity... Nobody has margins on compensation...
I dont think you are well informed... You are thinking that since you were honest you got less, but when you were dishonest you got more.... well.. that is not a good idea.. its better to be honest and upfront...and more importantly deal with tact and a bit of diplomacy to get what you want. You also first need to know what you want, only then you can try and get it..
RE:RE:offer A or B
by Attract Ivist on Mar 21, 2007 07:32 PM
Companies do have a salary range that can be offered to a candidate. Apart from the candidate's skills, it also depends on various other factors like how soon they need a candidate, the nature of the industry etc. I don't think it has got aything to do with one's honesty, but it's more about what to inform them and what not. You tell them about your weakness/desperation and there is a high chance that you get exploited. Diplomacy is must for negotiation, but there can be no negitiation unless you have some burgaining power (in terms of having an alternate choice or unique skill). And finally knowing what you want is good, but if someone is offering you more than you expected, you should quietly except it :)
RE:RE:offer A or B
by Paramesh Waran on Mar 21, 2007 06:59 PM
Nobody is out there to oblige you. All employers try and exploit the perceived vulnerabilities and in a situation of demand and supply you are not wrong to hold out for the maximum possible. your service and the capabilities you bring to the job is in fact a commodity and you have to sell it for the maximum; of course, the maximum is a sum total of money and other intangibles. But, if it becomes evident that the company is trying to exploit you, you owe them nothing at all.
RE:RE:offer A or B
by Manj u on Mar 21, 2007 08:04 PM
It seems Evangelizer is in a mood of bashing. By the way have ever worked or do you have a decent job in your hand?? I doubt.
RE:offer A or B
by kapil thakur on Mar 21, 2007 11:33 AM
very nicely explained. seems like coming from the mind of a person who knows how to deal with people and maintain relations. good going man.
There is nothing wrong is taking up the offer B, if you feel that offer B gives your more oppurtunities and promising for your career growth. The simple thing to do is to drop in a mail to the concerned person in company A giving him a candid picture as to why you have decided against offer A. But disclosing the offer B may not be a great idea as the company A might start negotiating with you in terms of salary etc so as to retain the offer. If this negotiation happens then it would like you a bargain and it would in compromising your career for money.
My husband is incidentally right now in the same posn. Just 2 days after he signed offer A he got a bigger offer fm. 'B' and 'C', both, bigger by money and reputation ('A'company, also has a good reputation. Totally, we have 3 offers all sr. exec. posts. Offer A has an immediate international exposure which i feel is good for a man's career. On the other hand, we are tempted by the bigger money B & C are offering us. We are in a fix and really do not understand what to do.
RE:Offer A or B
by ! on Mar 20, 2007 03:24 PM
needless to add, b absolutely selfish. and take a call. if u succeed, nothing stops the rejected co. from approaching u again...and if u fail, well, lets be optimistic.
RE:Offer A or B
by Prakash A on Mar 23, 2007 07:02 AM
Ask your husband to get offer from D and E companies also [totally 5 companies] so that he can work one day per week in each company. Your husband will get 5 salaries. -:)
In the existing dynamic Job scenarios,it is wise that we choose the offer based on the assignments you are going to work and how much those projects brings out the best from you.Merely choosing the offer for attractive pay scales will not yield anything best in you.So it is better to decide the offer based on long term growth plans.There is no concern of opting for Company B rather than A if you feel that Company B assignments can explode your skills.After all, when companies are expecting for quality candidate why not the candidate choose the Company which will deliver the best quality from him.
Companies today have no compunctions in asking people to leave if it suits the interests of the company. Similarly individuals should protect their own interest. Take up the offer that helps you gain and grow. Take an objective decision on which offer to take without attaching guilt to refusing an offer.
Most of the reponses suggest taking offer B with informng Company A ASAP. I faced with a similar situation and joined company A. I feel what ever decision you make you should be comfortable with that. In my situation A had already selected me for a particular project and it would been very difficult for them to arrange for a alternate in a short span of time. I don't know what I lost by not joining B, but I have gained a lot by joining A.
This situation can be used to understand the elusive thing called "Luck". Luck is nothing but how we respond to an oppurtunity. The oppurtunity here is the offer an individual got from companies A & B. The best response in my view would be to take out time, think calmly and dispassionately about the details of both the offers and jot them down on a piece of paper. This should include remuneration, work atmosphere, growth potential, career prospects, working hours, ESOPs, holidays, shift from a city and even minor things like daily commute. After carrying out this exercise reach an informed decision and choose the company which offers you the best in the present and also in the future. If it turns out to be company B, call up Company A, APOLOGISE AND INFORM THEM THAT YOU WILL NOT BE TAKING UP THEIR OFFER. NEVER EVER USE THE OFFER OF COMPANY B TO LEVERAGE WITH COMPANY A EVEN IF YOU DECIDE TO GO AHEAD WITH YOUR INITIAL CHOICE.
