A lot of information and updates on Hinduism are being discussed. But in my view.., Secularism..etc..what they say,, are all hypocrats...
BJP is supreme party and their leader are real genuine and its better, you are headed by an indian rather than jokers..who are headed by non-indian lady.
We should be proud that, BJP is a real party with a difference and it has emrged as a growing party with good ideology and priniciples. BJP is supported by RSS,, which is an Hindu dharma sangh...
That does not mean that......BJP is .....
BJP is a real intellectual party and it has very good loyal leaders and national fighters. which they have proved earlier thru pokhran and kargil war... They have all energy to fightfor the people of india.
Re: bjp = taliban
by Pranav on Apr 17, 2009 03:07 PM
I am copying the post of my friend Prashant Joshi here. Pls forgive me Mr. Joshi for copying. I totally agree with your post hence copying.
Brahmins, Gujju's, Jains and other upper castes should join hands to fight the menace of muslims, dalits and other backwards. These backwards have population alone. THEY HAVE NEITHER EDUCATION NOR THE MONEY. But still they think of ruling the most elite of the society. Congress has done a great harm by giving these backwards lot of freebies in terms of reservations etc. Let us join hands and ensure that BJP comes to power.
Do not ever forget that BJP has always been good for business community. It is not for nothing that TATA's, Birla's & Ambani's shower praises on Narendra bhai.
The Christians also need to be tackled effectively. They have unnecessarily opened so many schools and are trying to uplift these backwards who do not have brains to learn. Brahmins have to fight with these educated but dumb backwards for jobs and they will succeed everywhere because of reservations. That Ambedkar wrote something called constitution that needs to be amended every day.
BJP alone is our future. Let all of us, the higher caste people bring BJP to power.
Re: Re: @ Imran: Muslims alone gave India Freedom????????????
by Imran on Apr 17, 2009 02:47 PM
1857 was started by muslms the specific reason that triggered the rebellion was the use of cow and pig fat in cartridges.
Many thanks for your superb analysis on Hinduism,L K Advani,Vajpayee,BJP,RSS. I am glad to know that non Hindus have taken so much shine in our much hated SANATAN DHARMA (Yes..Hinduism is a way of life, but it is called this way), that you are posting good things here on Rediff. I thank you for it. BTW,I want you to answer following: 1. What do you know about the R.S.S? By this I mean I want you to give me a proper assessment of their activites. 2. What right does SONIA have to comment on anything that is Indian? I am sure you believe in History and the facts of her antics in India from 1969 till 1984 when she became a citizen of our country. 3. Vajpayeeji, again I am proud of you people who have taken U turn in praising him now, in 2004 he was a villan for the minorities.Pls. explain the reasons for this sudden turn if you can? 4. L K Advani's lack of vision, please explain what made you say this? I would very glad to hear from you. Thanks for praising our way of life and our Sanatan Dharma.
Re: @Gladson Almeida.....
by Sandeep Parwal on Apr 17, 2009 02:38 PM
history is nothing killed gandhi asking to kill minorities and dalits teaching high caste are powers, low caste born from the leg of krishna
Re: @Gladson Almeida.....
by gladson dalmeida on Apr 17, 2009 04:39 PM
There's nothing to thank. It is the way of the life which I am following, though my religion is different. My entire friends circle is made of Hindus and even in my hometown, Hindus are majority. But we still live in peace. Do you know why? Because, BJP has not yet been able to make inroads here. They tried their best to divide. But the young generation withstood them due to their hypocricy. You are asking about what I know about RSS? Let me first how much you know about RSS? RSS history begins with blood and it is full of blood. It is the brainchild of a person who was a great admirer of Nazis and Hitler in particular. Read his writings and you will know to what extent he had hated minorities. RSS if it shuns itself from politics, is really good. RSS of the olden days when it fought against the Emergency is just history. Today RSS is all about hate, blood and crave for money and power. Look at Karnataka politics where one of the most senior men of RSS (Ram Bhat) who was also MLA from BJP has revolted agaianst BJP just because RSS is deciding everything. BJP can't even have its own candidates in Karnataka. RSS has to suggest. Out of the 28 BJP candidates, 16 are either from Congress or JD (S), who have crossed over to BJP only a few days or months ago. Why do you harp on Sonia's origin. Even Advani is Pakistani. You cannot tolerate a word Sindh in National Anthem but you want to have PM who was born and educated in Sindh (Pakistan). Hypocrites...
it is simply not allowing my most benign article on MP/CHATTISGARH/RAJASTHAN & DELHI for publication. In the 1st 2 states BJP has routed CANGRESS in the teeth of all wild speculations, ceaseless slanderous canvassing by both the print and electronic media , pseudo- seculars... In RAJASTHAN, cangress pyrric victory has much to do with BJP's personality clash between the duos vasudhara and jaswant which thet failed to check on time and that cost BJP the state or else cangress would also meet with the same fate there as well. i m not reckoning Delhi seriously thanks to its pint-size which will have insignificant implicational effects on the final show. but there also Bjp will improved its position markedly from its previous tally. If my memory serves me correctly, then anterior to these elections all the journos had written BJP off calculating whether it would be 4-0 or 3-1 in favour of cangress. To cut a long story short, all the cards were stacked against BJP as if there was no tomorrow for the party even if it went for the doctor. So against such a back drop if it managed a spectacular show, then there is no reason not to believe that history will be repeated in the LS election as well as for cangress the FAT LADY HAS ALREADY SUNG.
Re: Rediff is brazenly skewed
by nachiketh ashok on Apr 17, 2009 02:28 PM
I want to know the name of sonia gandhi's speech writer ? Can anybody enlighten me ?
People practicing Hindu 'Religion' for 5000 years? Please verify your facts before putting something in black and white in a public forum. From when did Hinduism became a religion? It's only a way of life, perhaps the best way of life one can lead. But sorry to say that a few lunatics have made this beautiful way of life look like their personal property. What right does RSS have on Hindus, Hinduism and Hindustan? Are Indians mortaged to them? If BJP can call MMS has Sonia's slave, what's wrong Sonia callign Advani a RSS gulam? After all he is. He is a man without any vision for development. He can never grow up to the stature of great statesman Vajpayee. Vajpayee was respected by all without any barriers of party or religion...but look at Advani. He is not acceptable to most of his party men itself, forget about nationa and religion? Does he comman respect that MMS commands? MMS is highly qualified, a seasoned and revolutionary ecomomists. What is Advani other than an ageing gulam? Give me at least one reason for which he should be made PM? At least Modi has some charisma. But Advani...MMS has put it right. Advani is strong only in words and not in deeds. We all saw his capacity when he was the Home Minister and even the BJP president. He was dancing in Delhi to the tunes played by RSS from Nagpur...
Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by brij india on Apr 17, 2009 02:15 PM
I do not know why, every comment that is put up flows towards either communal bashing or political party bashing and abuses. Have all the readers and participants of rediff become so frustrated that they give vent to their frustrations in cowardice and in anonymity??? Can we not find the courage to use this forum to bring together some sincerity and sensibility amongst the MINORITY that is educated?? Can the educated MINORITY not bring about some awareness and responsibility in the OVERPOWERING MAJORITY which is uneducated, unaware, fighting for their next morsel, have no values, no vision, and are easily misguided by our SELFISH NETA EXPLOITERS of the masses. It is high time that the educated MINORITY that responds to rediffmail use this forum not to fragment further. That will be self defeating. That is what the NETAS who come for elections only on the strength on THE SINGLE COMMON MAJORITY of the illetrate, unaware, starving voters. That is how the NETADOM attracts only self interested morally corrupt to come for elections. THERE IS A SMALL MINORITY OF SINCERE, EDUCATED, COMMITTED, VISIONARY LEADERS COMING FOR ELECTION. THEY ARE SPREAD OVER ALL PARTIES AND AS INDEPENDENTS. It is only partism that identifies tham with any party, not idealogy.
Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by Sandeep Parwal on Apr 17, 2009 02:10 PM
hi "aurora borealis" if ur a true High Caste hindu, following the full path of hinduism will u sent ur w_i_f_e for "devadaasi"
Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by aurora borealis on Apr 17, 2009 02:14 PM
I am not a high caste Hndu. I belong to OBC. Any more questions, other than on age-old traditions which have been abolished long back..?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by Sandeep Parwal on Apr 17, 2009 02:19 PM
from the morning discussion, we found ur strong believer of Hinduism We know OBC will eat meat like MBC. Never escape as old or new beliefs. old belief - SATI, DEVADAASI new belief - Cow Piss Drink
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by Secularismsucks on Apr 17, 2009 02:21 PM
Sandeep Parwal.... Thank you for abusing the religion. Are you content with it now. You want to vote as per your caste or against a specific caste, do it, who is stopping you from doing it.
Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by Secularismsucks on Apr 17, 2009 02:22 PM
Imran...You are blind follower of the dangerous aspects of your religion. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A SYMPATHY SEEKER.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by Imran on Apr 17, 2009 02:25 PM
Advani will need all sympathies keep it for him after lections or get him a role as PM in a movie. I’m not seeking sympathy here u keep bragiing abt the appeasement of muslms I wanted to show u how far we have come with that appeasement NOWHERE. So stop ur false propaganda blast against us
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by Imran on Apr 17, 2009 02:33 PM
Get ur facts right muslms don’t ask for sympathy they will be the first to fight against injustice If not for us britshers would have ruled us still since u were very comfortable to be ruled by britsh. ODVani is the biggest hypcrte in India at present
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by Secularismsucks on Apr 17, 2009 02:31 PM
Imran....You have repeated that SUBSIDIES MY FOOT more then a dozen times. You stop spreading your tissue of lies over here. The Government of India records since 1947, speak of the monies that have been released to you people. Ask all the politicians who came for your vote, where did it all go? Dont question the Tax Payers of this country. Have some sense of shamelessness.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by Imran on Apr 17, 2009 02:37 PM
Keep ur money with urselves we r not asking for money we are just asking u to not brag abt the appeasement of muslms . But does the idea of appeasement have any basis in fact? Like all powerful but divisive ideas this too belongs to the realm of imagination
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by aurora borealis on Apr 17, 2009 02:30 PM
Advani might need sympathy. But no prizes in guessing who the biggest sympathy-seeking community is in the world. And Advani isnt even listening to you, you call him a Budhha and he has spent his life the way he chose to. You on the other hand are going to waste your life thinking of Godse who's been dead for ages. Maybe you are scared of him - darpok.
Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by aurora borealis on Apr 17, 2009 02:15 PM
Ya I am blind follower hence asking innocent questions. Please asnwer them and lead me to the light,..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Advani Vs Sonia
by gladson dalmeida on Apr 17, 2009 04:08 PM
Correct Aurora...you need to be led to light since you are gropping in religious darkness. You claim minorities to be thorn in your flesh. But keep in mind, if not minorities, you guys would have still been living in the 12th century. Agreed, Congress is not the best option to lead us? Buy how come you think that BJP is better. Congress and BJP are one and the same. They have political difference and not ideological difference. You talk about Advani leading us in the next five years? He is a person who has now vision for the future. If he had a vision, he would have known the aftermath of leading Rath Yatra to Ayodhya. Why was he crying in the corner when Babri masjid was just being trampled upon? If he had vision, he should have known the consequences of releasing Azar Masoud. He does not even command respect from half of his party men, forget about others. Guve ne one valid reason to make Advani PM? If he becomes PM he will go to Pakistan and will once again hail Jinnah and when he comes back, he will have his bosses in RSS bashing him. What does he know? As a home minister, he could not prevent the parialment being stormed by terroritsts, can he change entire country's fortunes? For each and everything he has to ask RSS (mind you not one person but group of persons). Does he command at least a single per cent of respect that Vajpayee did? Vajpayee is still the best statesman and politician of India while Advani is never a statesman but a pukka but worst politician
Reverend Bosworth Smith in 'Muhammad and Muhammadanism,' London, 1874. "Head of the State as well as the Church, he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by a right divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life." "In Mohammadanism every thing is different here. Instead of the shadowy and the mysterious, we have history....We know of the external history of Muhammad....while for his internal history after his mission had been proclaimed, we have a book absolutely unique in its origin, in its preservation....on the Substantial authority of which no one has ever been able to cast a serious doubt."
Re: GREATEST BY A LONG WAY
by Imran on Apr 17, 2009 02:05 PM
"If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls. "On the basis of a Book, every letter which has become law, he created a spiritual nationality which blend together peoples of every tongue and race.
Re: Re: GREATEST BY A LONG WAY
by Imran on Apr 17, 2009 02:06 PM
... This dogma was twofold the unity of God and the immateriality of God: the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words. "Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs.... The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he
Re: Re: Re: Re: GREATEST BY A LONG WAY
by Imran on Apr 17, 2009 02:15 PM
No need to ask anyone he has been named the greatest already Michael Hart in 'The 100, A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons In History,' New York, 1978. My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level. ...It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. ...It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GREATEST BY A LONG WAY
by aurora borealis on Apr 17, 2009 02:32 PM
Firstly, I dont even understand what he achieved...hahahahaha.... Did you forget I am brainwashed? You need to explain in a better way than just copy-paste.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GREATEST BY A LONG WAY
by Imran on Apr 17, 2009 02:26 PM
Ok name one person who achieved what the prohet did and give ur reasons can u
