Check the following:(overses series wins/losses) 1. Saurav Aus draw 1-1 SA lost Eng draw 1-1 WI lost 1-2 NZ lost 0-2 SL lost 1-2 Pak (2 matches under Rahul) won 2-1 2.Rahul Dravid Eng won 1-0 WI won 1-0 SA lost 1-2( almost had chance to win lead 1-0 and final test due to dravid and sachin slow batting cost india) did not captain in Aus NZ SL in Pak 2 (2004)tests 1-1 and lost 0-1 (2006)
3.MSD NZ won 1-0 WI won 1-0 Aus lost 0-4 Eng lost 0-4 SL draw 1-1
Its unfair to compare Dhoni batting with Ganguly because ganguly was in team for his batting and dhoni is there for wicket keeping. We should compare his batting with wicket keeper like Kirmani, Mongia and other previous keepers.
Re: Compare dhoni batting with other Wicket Keeper
by breddy last on Sep 05, 2012 02:50 PM
I bet Dhoni as a batsman is much better than Ganguly... Stats say it all, despite he is lower order batman...
Re: Re: Compare dhoni batting with other Wicket Keeper
by Anurag Rathore on Sep 05, 2012 02:57 PM
Ganguly was initially good but he choked as a batsman under pressure of captaincy.
Re: Compare dhoni batting with other Wicket Keeper
by Chatur on Sep 05, 2012 02:50 PM
Post 2004 Ganguly never batted properly and he was there only on his weight as a capatin and as a politician
Re: Compare dhoni batting with other Wicket Keeper
by manish sharma on Sep 05, 2012 03:04 PM
Ganguly made the team the world's best team he supported all the players in there bad phase he always supported harbhajan, sehwag, kumble, zahir khan etc in their bad phases. Dhoni is lucky when he became the captain he have a very strong team with him this is the difference between dhoni and ganguly you are right there is no comparison in dhoni and ganguly as gaguly is always best
In terms of gentleman captain and player it is only Pataudi who can match in India. Ganguly was good captain because of the team mates but brash in his approach and Dhoni is good only because of his teammates and is like a typical indian manager who cannot take everyone along. He has chamchaa's, neutrals and those who dare to oppose his divide and rule policies. So they both cannot be considered great captains. Like that we can call douglas jardine great although he made his bowler bowl underarm to stop Don bradman. I think Steve Waugh was good captain given the aggressive nature of australians and the west indian captains were also exemplary in their conduct and as captains(till late 80s and early 90s).
Re: Greatest captain
by Anurag Rathore on Sep 05, 2012 02:49 PM
Do you really think that players like Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Gambhir, Harbhajan are chamchas of dhoni!!!!
Making a captain wait for toss or taking one's shirt off doesnt make somebodya great captain.. these were not the reason why we won the macthes.. its becos of a few individual performances..
Re: Ganguly
by Chatur on Sep 05, 2012 02:46 PM
Completely agree. In India we like larger than life characters.Ganguly made himself one. No doubt he was good as a captain but he thought too much about himself which ultimately fell to hiws downfall. Imagine he was not even picked in the KKR team.
Dhoni won the first T20 WC for India, brought back 2011 WC in India , gained the 1 ranking for test team and also lost it. Under Ganguly , wut has he gained?
Re: Under Dhoni
by Sameer Bhagwat on Sep 05, 2012 02:48 PM
dear m0r0n, were u not fed properly to even realise that both the WCs were just flukes??? specially the 2011 wc - held in India, was it too tough a task? ganguly is of a separate class altogether, which rustics like u and dhoni won't even realise!
Re: Re: Under Dhoni
by Chatur on Sep 05, 2012 03:01 PM
Thats the problem with the Ganguly fans.They cant think beyond him and for them no one exists.Keep on arguing.
Re: Under Dhoni
by Sameer Bhagwat on Sep 05, 2012 02:49 PM
dear m0r0n, were u not fed properly to even realise that both the WCs were just flukes??? specially the 2011 wc - held in India, was it too tough a task? ganguly is of a separate class altogether, which rustics like u and dhoni won't even realise!
Re: Re: Under Dhoni
by Anurag Rathore on Sep 05, 2012 02:51 PM
Did India win the 1988 and 1996 WC which held in India? How many home teams have won the WC?
Re: Re: Re: Under Dhoni
by Mr Infinity on Sep 05, 2012 03:05 PM
India couldn't defend 83 WC at home, proving it was a fluke. And 96 WC winner was another subcontinent team. :)
Similarly 2007 T20WC was a fluke (proven by next performances) and in 2015 at Australia world will again prove that 2011 WC win by India was also a fluke. :D
Stop analyzing so much guys. Take a chill pill. Indian Cricket team never was is and will be a consistent performing side. Just enjoy the sports.
Re: Under Dhoni
by Areen Sen on Sep 05, 2012 03:03 PM
He Gave India , Team India. He took Captaincy after the Betting Scam, when ships were really down. He stopped the Australian Test onslot wins.
Re: Who has the better team?
by Sanjay on Sep 05, 2012 02:35 PM
Under Ganguly's captaincy these players were still relevantly in their 'prime'... years on they are old f*rts who refuse to hang up their bats :)
Re: Who has the better team?
by breddy last on Sep 05, 2012 02:39 PM
This shows key players like dravid, sachin, sehwag, laxman are at thier prime under ganguly...
Ganguly is lucky to have then at prime..
While under dhoni, its the aging team, where all the key player are in decline or near retirement...
Inspite of it dhoni has much better record than ganguly in tests and won 2 world cups (oneday, 20-20)...
Re: Who has the better team?
by New Jersey on Sep 05, 2012 02:40 PM
dravids and laxmans were in their prime and young during ganguly as a captain.during dhoni they rite ly retired gave young guns the chance. Here we r talking of individual captaincy and not the players playing in team.
Re: Re: Who has the better team?
by breddy last on Sep 05, 2012 02:42 PM
@New Jersey The fact is inspite of better team under ganguly, record is no good than dhoni!!!
Re: googly
by breddy last on Sep 05, 2012 02:35 PM
Who is stopping bajji from performing at 1st class level and earn a place again in national team through performance rather than thue PR work..
