mohd. ameer has done well in bowlers friendly conditions. Unfortunately , we may know how he would bowled on flat pitches.
In England, even our Indian bowlers have/had been outstanding.
Real test of a bowler begins after he has been exposed to all great batsmen. Once people start reading the bowler well, he is no more a threat unless the bowlers keep developing new tricks. Recent Example: Ishant Sharma, Mendis
Re: @kalpesh shah
by kalpesh shah on Sep 04, 2010 03:23 PM
ur right LG but there is c of diff between munaf and macgrath.. zahir and aamer... real talent never look back.. look at kapil,akram,mcgrath,donald, all these bowler represent thier country from first match till retirement. never dropped fr. the team due to bad form..
the debate continues................. well i say Ponting (at the moment)- bcoz Ponting has won 3 WC's,1 CT under his captaincy with his individual performance where as Sachin is yet to achieve that. If he accomplishes this task in 2011 WC(he shd i guess)- then Sachin is Greatest.
Re: sachin or ponting?
by Sanjay on Sep 04, 2010 03:13 PM
That's a strange statement... Sachin is not Captain of India therefore ... he cannot achieve what Ponting has... Dhoni can. If you compare Ponting to Sachin... as batsmen... Sachin is the best without a doubt.
Re: Re: sachin or ponting?
by sunil k on Sep 04, 2010 03:18 PM
both are good performers....no differences........match winners and competitive cricketrs.....ponting is ahead in terms of his "fielding skills" worlds best fielder and catcher....sachin lost his legspin...due to elbow injury cant bowl effectively.....even dravid is not far behind....world class no.3 batsman...world class "slip catcher"....
Re: Re: sachin or ponting?
by Strict Officer on Sep 04, 2010 03:15 PM
individual performance in WC winning team-pls read that. Sachin anyway will not captain the 2011 wc-but he is keen to win it for India!!
Re: sachin or ponting?
by kalpesh shah on Sep 04, 2010 03:13 PM
opinion vary from person to person sachin is not lone player representating team india. sachin played his part in all wc except last wc. what about rest 5 batsman...
Re: Re: sachin or ponting?
by Sanjay on Sep 04, 2010 03:15 PM
True... It's vital for us to have an in form Viru, Yuvi, Dhoni and Zaheer if we are going to do well.
Re: sachin or ponting?
by Senthil on Sep 04, 2010 03:21 PM
Right, Then It's a team game and The TEAM is created by Steve Waugh and Ponting can't create such a team so No credit for his captaincy and Aussie team was No.1 when he take over and his team is in No.4 and soon it will reach No.5 for the first time shows how good captain he is.
Re: india occupy no 1 spot in tests
by Sunil Vaidya on Sep 05, 2010 01:00 AM
wrong kalpesh, india occupy no 1 spot in tests due to strong bowling lineup where we have zaheer, ishant, sreesanth, harbhajan, ozha, mishra ...
Re: this is next impossible to proove paki player guilty
by Strict Officer on Sep 04, 2010 03:07 PM
bcoz u cant distinguish the guily in their country!!
Re: Re: this is next impossible to proove paki player guilty
by kalpesh shah on Sep 04, 2010 03:10 PM
just wait and watch s.o. evidence are not conclusive.
Re: i dont care whether anyone agree with me or not but
by Sanjay on Sep 04, 2010 03:03 PM
I have to disagree... I've seen Indian bowlers just as devastating on English pitches...
Re: Re: i dont care whether anyone agree with me or not but
by kalpesh shah on Sep 04, 2010 03:05 PM
when?? zahir 35 runs per wicket ishant 36 runs per wicket in test...
Re: i dont care whether anyone agree with me or not but
by vindya on Sep 04, 2010 03:03 PM
in the favourable conditions Indian bowlers can be fatal.Remember how Zaheer destroyed England in 2007 and in recent tri series we thrashed NZ on 118 only.
Re: Re: i dont care whether anyone agree with me or not but
by Sanjay on Sep 04, 2010 03:08 PM
Vindya ji, I'm so impressed :-) You really know your cricket! I attended one of the ODIs in 2007 when India won by 9 runs... one of the best matches I've seen! Sachin scored 99 and Dravid 92 not out!
Re: ROBOT
by Senthil on Sep 04, 2010 03:02 PM
You mean Endhiran? Robot in Hindi? Wiki says 24th Sep but I guess it may delay due to The Director Shankar decided to add 3D also.
Following players at their peaks have been compared with one and only one..Sachin Tendulkar( That is what makes him the best ever after Sir Don Bradman)
1. Mark Waugh (Aus) 2. Vaughan (ENG) 3. Lara (WI) 4. Ponting (Aus) 5. Pak cricketer.. I forgot his name (fat guy) 7. Dravid (IND) 8. Piterson (ENG) 10. Sehwag (IND)
All these players faded away, but Sachin is still SHINING like SUN.
Re: Players
by Senthil on Sep 04, 2010 03:04 PM
You missed S Anwar, S Ganguly, Jeyasuriya, H Gibbs
The Main Competitors were B Lara in Test and S Anwar in ODI's but no other came close to Sachin and Ricky Ponting is always one step behind and never became a competitor like Lara or Anwar
who is in youth brigade, irresponsible brat just look at other team ok look at shrilankan young cricketer and our superstar.. i can bet i m better batsman than kartik,rohit, uththappa,...
Re: sachin bats for youth brigade
by vindya on Sep 04, 2010 02:54 PM
Dhoni did not try another youngsters Saurabh Tiwari and R Ashwin.He is afraid to give them a chance .
Re: Re: regular feature of this forum
by Vishwanathan Anand on Sep 04, 2010 03:00 PM
PART 1 - agree with u completely
Part 2 - DISAGREE COMPLETELY. Dhoni isnt a great captain and nowhere close to the biggies like Ponting, waugh, Ganguly etc. Do we see any hunger to win, captain cool as he is called by stu=pid media is never seen disturbed with the result of a match.... its one thing to remain cool and its other to remain naive and inactive....
probably his 160 odd crore contract and IPL money is responsible for this.
Re: Re: regular feature of this forum
by sunil k on Sep 04, 2010 03:30 PM
ponting is great...one thing u all fools forget is cricket is only abt batting.... wat abt fielding, close in catching, bowling...??? have u ever thought abt these things...? overall competency should be the criteria for comparing different player and not only "batting".. ponting can win a match with his "brilliant" fielding and close in catching abilities....can hit wicket all the times and create run outs......sachin isnt sachin "lost" his leg spin due to elbow injury and cant bowl effectively..... both are brillient ataacking batsmen against all kind of attack...there is no difference in it.... ponting is still a good fielder and worlds best....
Re: Re: Re: regular feature of this forum
by Vishwanathan Anand on Sep 04, 2010 03:46 PM
We are talking about careers of these great players, history books after their retirement will not say if they bowled well in the last stage of their career. From where would ponting bring 150 odd ODI wickets by sachin and his maiden 49th / 50th over. Sachin has completed 20 years in Int. cricket and has always brought value to the team according to his role.... and toddler like u (sunil K) probably wasnt even wearing chaddi when schin used to bowl to understand his heroics
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: regular feature of this forum
by Senthil on Sep 04, 2010 05:15 PM
When you are replying to a message after the person left shows how coward you are and you are disgrace to your Parents.