he may not be in form but he is the best test batsman and lets remember the partnership with laxman in eden gardens where dravid got a century with running tempreature and he deserves atest spot
Re: dravid is still best test bat
by pramod ks on Sep 12, 2008 11:49 AM
Past is Past.Talk about present.Now Rahul may be worst in the world.Mr.Rahul please retire from Cricket and allow youngsters.We respect for your Past achievments.
It's amazing he has only 5 ducks in 214 innings of his career. He has not much stamina like he has 2 years ago. But still he can play 80-120 runs inning. We have no back-up of Dravid yet. Just give him one more series against Australia to perform, if he fails we have to take risk. Upcoming series is crucial for Kumble and Dravid.
We can't forget the match winning inning of Dravid and Sachin in Perth test recently. Kaif, Yuvraj and Raina are capable to take place of Ganguly. So Ganguly's exclusion doesn't matter. He was never an extra ordinary player in test. Laxaman is best in test. Elimination process has been started, but no need to drop all the seniors at a time. We have to find replacement of Kumble and Dravid as soon as possible.
Re: Dravid : The Wall
by PAKODI RAM on Sep 12, 2008 07:46 PM
LET ALL INDIANS ACCEPT SOME BLUNT REALITIES. PLAYERS LIKE EAS PRASSANNA, BS BEDI, BS CHANDRASHEKAR, GR VISHWANATH, RAHUL DRAVID PLAYED FOR COUNTRY WITHOUT ANY SELFLESSNESS AND GANGULY & SACHIN CANNOT BE COMPARED TO THAT LEVEL.THEY ALL SHATRED THEIR BOOTY IN MATCH FIXING WHEN DALMIA THE ISI AGENT RULED BCCI.
Dravid was a stupid thick headed captain. Because of we had such poor outing in WC 2007. He was good test player but now he cant even play properly in test. Its time to throw him out. Stupid thick headed guy.
Re: Dravid should retire
by sanjay on Sep 12, 2008 10:45 AM
Captaincy records
Saurav Ganguly ODI matches captained 147 Matches won 76 Win percentage 51 % Wins against quality oppositions Aus 4 Eng 7 NZ6 Pak 7 SA 7 SL 6 WI 8 total 46 Win percentage quality oppositions drops to 31 %
Rahul Dravid ODI matches captained 75 Matches won 41 Win percentage 54 % Wins against quality oppositions Aus 1 Eng 8Pak 5 SA 4 SL 8 WI 8 Total 34 Win percentage quality oppositions drops to 45 % Difference in wins against quality opposition is whopping 14 percentage !!! Test record of ind last 2 capains. Ganguly Matches 49 Won 21 win raito 1.62 Dravid Matches 25 Won 8 win raito 1.33
Ganguly 9 out of 21 against minnows Dravid 1 out of 8 against minnows
Because of Dalmiya lot of matches were organised against minnows to boost records so Revised records against quality opposition Ganguly Matches38 Won 12 win raito 0.31 Dravid Matches 23 Won 7 win raito 0.30
Re: Dravid should retire
by sanjay on Sep 12, 2008 10:48 AM
Test record of ind last 2 capains. Ganguly Matches 49 Won 21 win raito 1.62 Dravid Matches 25 Won 8 win raito 1.33
Ganguly 9 out of 21 against minnows Dravid 1 out of 8 against minnows
Because of Dalmiya lot of matches were organised against minnows to boost records so Revised records against quality opposition Ganguly Matches38 Won 12 win raito 0.31 Dravid Matches 23 Won 7 win raito 0.30
Re: Dravid should retire
by Numero Uno on Sep 12, 2008 10:55 AM
but what about WC2007? Was it not India's worst performance in WC history? Was Dravid not the captain?
Re: Dravid should retire
by sanjay on Sep 12, 2008 10:52 AM
Saurav Ganguly ODI matches captained 147 Matches won 76 Win percentage 51 % Wins against quality oppositions Aus 4 Eng 7 NZ6 Pak 7 SA 7 SL 6 WI 8 total 46 Win percentage quality oppositions drops to 31 %
Re: Dravid should retire
by sanjay on Sep 12, 2008 10:47 AM
Saurav Ganguly ODI matches captained 147 Matches won 76 Win percentage 51 % Wins against quality oppositions Aus 4 Eng 7 NZ6 Pak 7 SA 7 SL 6 WI 8 total 46 Win percentage quality oppositions drops to 31 % Rahul Dravid ODI matches captained 75 Matches won 41 Win percentage 54 % Wins against quality oppositions Aus 1 Eng 8Pak 5 SA 4 SL 8 WI 8 Total 34 Win percentage quality oppositions drops to 45 % Difference in wins against quality opposition is whopping 14 percentage !!! Test record of ind last 2 capains. Ganguly Matches 49 Won 21 win raito 1.62 Dravid Matches 25 Won 8 win raito 1.33 Ganguly 9 out of 21 against minnows Dravid 1 out of 8 against minnows
Because of Dalmiya lot of matches were organised against minnows to boost records so Revised records against quality opposition Ganguly Matches38 Won 12 win raito 0.31 Dravid Matches 23 Won 7 win raito 0.30
Re: Dravid should retire
by sanjay on Sep 12, 2008 10:54 AM
Saurav Ganguly ODI matches captained 147 Matches won 76 Win percentage 51 % Wins against quality oppositions Aus 4 Eng 7 NZ6 Pak 7 SA 7 SL 6 WI 8 total 46 Win percentage quality oppositions drops to 31 % Rahul Dravid ODI matches captained 75 Matches won 41 Win percentage 54 % Wins against quality oppositions Aus 1 Eng 8Pak 5 SA 4 SL 8 WI 8 Total 34 Win percentage quality oppositions drops to 45 % Difference in wins against quality opposition is whopping 14 percentage
Re: Dravid should retire
by Sasi Kumar on Sep 12, 2008 11:36 AM
It was for Azar and co early.. Now its for Fab four Sachin, Sourav, Dravid & LAxman.. Future Please its for Yuvi, Dhoni, Sehwag, Gauti and Co no doubt...
Everyone criticising Dravid for his poor show and suggesting its time for him to Retire sould think not twice, but 100 times. No need to mention of all illustrious performances of Dravid over the years because a quality player like him doesn't wan't to be in the team based on past achievements but based on what he can offer even today. He scored lesser no of runs in Lanka but the no of balls faced/stayed on the wicket shows his ability especially wrt test cricket. He is a very good one day cricketer also who always played for the team, but since we have younger options and a Captain who wants to have Dictatorship and very selfish with good luck for the time being, Dravid is out of One Day Team. What did Dhoni do with the Bat against Australia in test matches in Australia and what he will do in India is a big question mark. Sanjay manjrekar was a high quality Batsman but with lot of bad luck. I would not only say his remarks for Dravid are correct but they are incomplete.
Yes , Dravid is the most selfless cricketer we have seen, not only in India, But in the whole world. It was he who gave full opportunity to Sehwag, Dhoni and Harbhajan, when he could have easily omitted them. The Australia series will tell the rest.
Re: Dravid is still a force to reckon with
by Kamal on Sep 12, 2008 10:40 AM
Yes he is a selfless cricketer. Who can forget his declaring Indian innings when Sachin was on 196 in Pakistan.
Re: Re: Dravid is still a force to reckon with
by Sasi Kumar on Sep 12, 2008 11:19 AM
Don'f Forget Dude India won that match.. Also would like to inform you that Sachin batting at 188 for more than 4 overs, he knows well that was the declaration time too... say us whose mistake is that......
Re: Dravid is still a force to reckon with
by Kamal on Sep 12, 2008 10:46 AM
whatever. Point is declaration. Would Dravid be happy if he was in Sachin's shoes?
Re: Dravid is still a force to reckon with
by Roger Federer on Sep 12, 2008 10:48 AM
Dravid has sacrifies so many times for the team. Like he did wicket-keeping. He has played at 1,2,3,4,5,6 position.
Re: Dravid is still a force to reckon with
by Numero Uno on Sep 12, 2008 10:43 AM
Dravid selfless cricketer!!!! Big joke man. He nly promotes his state guys. Did you see once he was made captain of the IPL bangalore team how he filled his team with all the non-performing state players. No wonder his team was at the bottom. worst guy.
Re: Dravid is still a force to reckon with
by LESLIE LAWRENCE on Sep 12, 2008 10:52 AM
Dravids declartion is selfless for team India not for any particular player.
Re: Re: Dravid is still a force to reckon with
by ananth on Sep 12, 2008 05:25 PM
Due to poor umpiring he suffered in Sri Lanka and Australia. This was evident on TV. It is the tendency of us Indians in general to condemn a player when he is down by forgetting his past contributions.
we should consider fav 2 only they are laxman and dravid.sachin is like balloon jo thora sa pin karne per phat jata hai.i dont rember his match winning knock in his 39 hundred when chips were down apart from his 154 not in chennai in 1998 thats a decade before, i assure you my frnd if i also get those no. of chances to play i will also played atleast 1 inngs like that on my day.these mumbaikar people try to project him as a greatest player of alltime,waht a joke, the player who never stood in time whenever team was in crises how can he be greatest ever? as far sourav ganguly is concerd his contribution to team india will be written in golden world in history of indian cricket, who teaches us how to win abroad, how to make unity in team. whereas mumbaikar player always plays poltics.i think for outser of sourav these mumbaikar lobby has played the role bet on it.
Re: Re: fav 2
by harsha reddy on Sep 12, 2008 02:36 PM
ahh! Sachin is trated as a grat player not only by mumbai, AUS trat him as great, ENG trat him as a great, Total warld treat him as great.And as far as me considered Sachin and sourav are great players than dravid and laxman.And Dravid is selfish player, bcauz his strike rate tells about his selfish.Somebody told that he did wicketkeeping, he did it for his place in the team and afterwards he took revenge on sourav, who is the greatest captain for me.
In his worst form, he averages 34.27 Look @ Ganguly he averages a paltry 16 in his worst form. Ofcourse I'm not justifying Dravid's poor form. India's Batting revolves around him and he should get back to his old ways where he was averaging 58. Ganguly, Sachin should be phased out first and the youngsters should play, learn and get some experience with Dravid. I believe he and laxman have still got the skill to play another 2 years for India in Test Cricket. The selectors should use their services properly before phasing them out also.
Re: DRAVID IS A CLASS PLAYER
by Kamal on Sep 12, 2008 10:33 AM
You dirty mind Ranga-Billa come out of your regionalism supporting mindset. Dont ever compare Dravid and Tendulakar. Will anyone forget the incidence when he declared Indian innings when Sachin was on 196? This dirty mind never wanted Sachin to score double-hundreds more than him. Ofcourse Dravid is a good batsman, but in terms of both Team spirit and talent, he is far behind Sachin.
Re: DRAVID IS A CLASS PLAYER
by sameer on Sep 12, 2008 10:51 AM
He is nuts to compare Dravid with Sachin and your calling him a dirty mind is totaly justified.
NOW MEDIA IS SELECTING THE PLAYERS AND NOT THE SELECTORS. IT IS NOT JUST HOW MANY RUNS ONE SCORES, IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT HOW MANY RUNS HE HAS SAVED, HOW MANY CATCHES HE HELD, HOW MANY WICKETS HE HAS TAKEN, IN ADDITION HIS ATTITUDE, TEMPERMENT ETC ALSO SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO. JUST BECAUSE SOME ONE IS DROPPED, MEDIA SHOULD NOT CREATE HYPE AND ONE SHOULD NOT BECOME INDISPENSIBLE. ONE SHOULD NOT DECLARE THAT TWO OR THREE MORE YEARS HE CAN PLAY CRICKET.
