the people are just blaming the mastro upon his performance in the big matched but what he does for nation all that is forgotten by them what he gives to indian team is noone can give.
uae and bangladesh are minnows, but are pakistan and sri-lanka also minnows? he has done that against them also and innumerable occasions against the aussies- the best in world. The wicket of Mahela J was class act.it was only a glimpse of what tendulkar do as a bowler. Tendulkar is not just a good batsman but also a complete allrounder. He has just not worked with his bowling or he can give shane warne run for his money. Congrats to India for the Victory.
Just for stats, it is correct. But we want is the big man to fire with the bat a lot more. This has to come in crucial matches. I dont believe that he has "never" played well in crucial games. If we see properly pre 2000 he used to reserve his energy specially for finals/ grand finals. But in the recent past (last 2 years ) he has not fired properly except for a great World Cup. What everyone want is "the" original Tendulkar (who use to murdur the bowlers at any time on any given day no matter what the situation is) and not the present one ( Who can just make robotic hundreds but cant turn the matches drastically ). Anyway lets hope that he will be back when some big tournament is organised ..... may be ...... ICC champions trophy :-)
Its a shame that you highlight Tendulkar performance on minnows like UAE, Bangladesh in his allround performace in this Asia cup. Do you really think that it is worth mentioning? He didn't make ANY considerable contribution in any of the most important matches in this series (as a matter of fact, throughout his career except very few occassions). He is never a match winner and was never there when it is mattered the most. He should learn it from Dravid. He plays on smaller teams with no good bowling and improves his statistical averages. I wonder why he is not getting dropped when he is not performing well. I know he contributed a lot to the Indian cricket, but what matters is his current or recent performance.
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by sasriniv on Jul 28, 2004 02:25 PM
Its only because of our expectations on Sachin that ends up with such comments. Forget it.
But point here is, time and again rediff.com publishes such articles and keeping quiet. I dont know what good it does for Cricket. Reminding again that rediff.com would soon fade if it continues with such episodes. Its pity to read statements like "Sachin also contributed with his bat by scoring two half centuries".
RE:Shame shame...
by nimish on Jul 28, 2004 12:16 PM
It's a shame that people like you keep on doubting little master's talent without getting your facts right.
Just look at Tendulkar's performance in last 15 games against stronger teams (before the game between India and Sri Lanka): Sachin's last 15 games against, M I NO R H1 H2 H3 Ave H F Aus 15 15 0 776 139 100 89 51.73 2 5 Eng 15 15 3 595 105* 91 87* 49.58 1 4 NZ 15 15 2 492 186* 102 69 37.84 2 1 Pak 15 15 0 643 141 98 93 42.86 1 3 SA 15 15 0 639 122 101 93 42.60 2 1 SL 15 14 1 733 120 113 101 56.38 3 3 ===================================================== What more can you ask of him ? A century every time he gets on the crease ? If he has to do the scoring all the time, then what for the other six batsmen in the team being paid for ?
I hope you will be careful in future in passing your judgements.Atleast please check your facts before speaking something nonsense.
RE:Shame shame...
by rohan on Jul 28, 2004 06:49 PM
well, i do think that Mr Kris who has posted this message is all over tendulkar. I suppose he needs 2 look into certain things b4 stating anything.Plz Sir, do get the correct statistics b4 talking anything .Just tell me what wud have happend if sachin had not picked up the 3wickets against pakistan and what wud have happend if he had not scored those invaluable 78runs.India wud not have been in the finals today!Think, Think, Think b4 u talk anything.
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by subhasis on Jul 28, 2004 11:29 AM
well mr what would u say about dravid perfomance in this asia cup ..... so to go with ur point then dravid ahould also be dropped from the team .... so as sourav ganguly ..... they all play their own game buddy .. the day these guys retire then i really wonder about the future of indian cricket .. sachin told the right thing few dayz back ..." ppl to criticize him for his game , they dont know about cricket" .. sitting back home n criticizing some 1 is quite easy .. thats what ur doing ..
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by avhishek on Jul 28, 2004 06:02 PM
i dont know who is this and what he wants 2 tell???surely who send this message "shame shame" he has no idea about cricket and spsly abt tendulkar.i dont know is he read everydays news papaer?
Tendulkar is the biggest match-winner in the Indian team and also in the history of Indian cricket. But, whenever India loses a match, the whole blame is put on Sachin for not performing, although the entire team is responsible for the defeat. He has always been under pressure to perform and has kept performing.He values his wicket dearly and always puts his critics to silence by letting his bat do the talking.
Coming at a time when the country was starved of sporting heroes, Sachin has carried the nation's hopes on his broad shoulders, for more than a decade. The pressure was always there, more so as the opposition and team-mates alike considered that victory and defeat rested on his performance. Remember there were no Dravids, Laxmans and Gangulys then. Still he has risen to become one of the best in the world. I have been reading from time to time people saying he doesn't win games for India. Rubbish! Let me tell you, Tendulkar's mere presence is
RE:Shame shame...
by Abhilash Narayan on Jul 28, 2004 05:47 PM
Now just because his recent performances was against minnows doesnt mean that he has done it only agianst minnows, my dear friend..In fact if you remember the India-Australia match in kochi a few years a ago he single handedly turned around the match in Indias favour by his bowling and most of the wickets he took was of the star batsmen in the Aussies team.Even against Pakistan he got wickets to the end and did play a vital role in restricting them to 300.Had it gone any further we wud not hav been able to even get the bonus point.Mind you,i am not a Sachin Fan in any regards but i DO think that he is a really 'foxy' bowler.
for the guys who are against Sachin
by viji on Jul 28, 2004 06:00 PM
hello what else u people need from sachin.nobody ( cricketer or cricket fan)in world has right to talk against him.he is just simple and honest with no black marks.only guys playing cricket can know about his shots.they are just amazing. he is the only man who can play all the shots in the book.an opener cant stay in every match until end to hit the winning shot.He takes all the risk in accelerating run rate in the beginning for the past many years( ofcourse, now his follower SEHWAG is doing it ).His strike will tell this.if he wants to bat like others he can take time and can stay there till the end.look his average in both sort of games against all the good teams, it is far better than others.maintaining both average and strike rate is not a simple thing.he is just a human not god to score in every match.tell me the cricketer who is better than sachin at present in both type of games. viji
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by Jayaram on Jul 28, 2004 11:01 AM
Its very funny to know that even now there are ppl like u who consider that tendulkar is not a match winner.As the man himself said few days ago that those who are questioning his place in the side are the ones who dont know anything abt the game. I guess you are who just derive pleasure by raising questions abt this marvellous cricketer who has been acknowledged as the best batsman that our country has ever seen and probably the world of cricket too. Please refrain from making such ridiculous comments
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by Jiten Vaidya on Jul 28, 2004 02:00 PM
Mr. Kris, It has become fashionable to criticize Tendulkar. It has to happen when people with limited knowledge are going to write this on a legend. If this is the case that the record has come against minnows then please realize even Kapils record of 175 or Richards record of 189 in oneday cricket has come against the then minnows Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. Please check the records and know something 1) Sachin has 50 man of the match awards and its not come against minnows only. Neither does he have relatives in the Man of the match committee who award it to him regularly. He has won 50 matches on his own out of 335 matches he has played that makes it one out of every seven match India played in last 16 years is won because of Tendulkar. 2) 14000 Runs in One day have come against all opponents everywhere in the world. Majority of them coming against Australia, which is today no. one team. 3) Remember Shrjah cup back to back centuries 4) Remember Hero cup last over against South Africa 5) Remember his century next day after his father demise in the world cup. 6) Remember He is the highest scorer of World cup thrice, total runs in world cup and in Asia cup and overall in on
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by Chandan on Jul 28, 2004 10:31 PM
What is there to be ashamed about?You can only perform in the matches you play!He was not given a ball in SL match during the league phase and Pakistan is a minnow--huh?
In 227 games as opener, Tendulkar has amassed 10520 runs, with a whopping 84 scores in excess of 50. So effectively, he exceeds 50 every third innings (or better) as opener in ODI's.
His bating average as opener (over 227 games) is 49.85 (Viv Richards, the best ODI batsman in the world, average 47 over 187 games)
And out of those 227 matches (in which Tendulkar makes a 50 every third innings or better), india have won 112 matches, and Tendulkar averages 67.66 in those matches.
56 of his 50+ scores have resulted in Indian wins.
So in every second indian win where Tendulkar plays as opener, he makes 50 or more.
And through all this, his career strike rate is 86 runs per 100 balls. Since January 1 2001, Tendulkar averages 58.94 as opener in ODI's.
For the same period, India averages
5.14 runs/over and an Indian wicket falls once every 33.3 runs.
RE:Shame shame...
by Jay Shah on Jul 28, 2004 01:32 PM
I think so you are not a fan of Indian Cricket. What matters is how much one have contributed in a game and sachin Tendulkar has done that by his fielding & bowling if he has failed in batting. If you comment on Dravid, even he has failed in his last 2 innings. Both Sachin & Dravid have contributed a lot to Indian Cricket & everybody knows that they are World Class players and only a fool would think to drop them out of the team.
Dont blame Sach Bhai for no reason
by Sinu on Jul 28, 2004 11:21 AM
I would like bring to the viewer's kind notice that Sach Bhai has proved his mettle with the ball against Australia (5-32) and ver recently bowled a peach of a delivery to Jayawardena that would have made a certain Shane Warne proud. And he definitely bowlled well at the death against Pakistan who have some wonderful strikers down their order. He is a part-time bowler, but any bowler who has more than a 100 international wickets must no be that bad.... We have the luxury of saying this to Sach bhai because of the emergence of young match-winners such as Sehwag and Yuvraj. But let me tell you... there are only two players whom the opposition target, one is Sach bhai and the other dada, cuase both are proven masters who can turn the match on their head. It is now more of a fashion to criticize them. Try imagining a team without Sachin's stability and Dada's inspired captainship...
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by Vakul Kumar More on Jul 28, 2004 05:03 PM
This is not fair on you to criticize indian star players,kris. It seems you are a person who find faults with every person and every situation.
Think before posting anything, atleast try to get some statistics to prove your point. Your message makes me remember me an incident...
Robert Fulton invented the steamboat. He displayed his new invention on the banks of the Hudson river. Among the crowd who has gathered around to observe the boat were some pessimists and skeptics(like you). They commented that it would never start.But lo and behold,it did. As it made its down the river, the pessimists who said it would never start, saw it start, immediately shouted now it would never stop.
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by santhosh on Jul 28, 2004 04:23 PM
how dare u talk like that .... tendulkar.. the no. 1 batsmen in the world.... tell me who can challenge his record....not a record... a pile of records... ok... dravid... he is also a splendid player... and has given valuble contribution to indian cricket... even then...we cannot under rate sachin's calibre and his match winning ability... whenever india wins... sachin leaves his contribution to that... in batting or bowling or fielding...will u deny that... only because he lays a foundation.. the others can build up... and of course... a man cannot maintain his form through out his career... but his 'out of form' period is negligible... when compared to other players... tell me will u deny that...
shame on u
by hari on Jul 28, 2004 11:31 AM
hi, How are you? I understand you,But the concept is his performance on the match not the team he is playing against.If he is not performing the you will say that SACHIN is out of form.wether it is minow's or maxi's his job is to represent us and preform for us on the field. so don't speak ill of others,
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by Abdul on Jul 28, 2004 07:32 PM
I think u should be ashamed of yourself saying that tendulkar in not a match winner, he is a match winner. I agree that he hasnt performed well in this series but that doesnt mean he is no good any more. As dravid is having a good time with bat so u all r praising him now, but when he wasnt performing in One day u were the one's speaking nonsense abt him. come on Guys Wake up. In every sport their is winning and losing, dont lose heart, Only think what i like abt this team is their fighting spirit, Look at it as a tema not individuals and u will see the difference. Sachin will perform and u will be proud of him one day.
RE:Shame shame...
by Shan on Jul 28, 2004 10:04 AM
It is a shame that people accuse of a genious like Sachin just because he does not perform upto their expectations. Since he is a batting genious, the truth is - people's expectations have increased exponentially and one cannot expect his performance also to increase exponentially.
Before calling it a shame, people must just recollect how he took India to the final of the World Cup last year. And the judges are not so stupids to award him the Man of the Series without considering his contributuons. People have started speaking just because India is no more dependent only on Sachin. Just recollect the years when he had carried the burden of the full Indian team behind him. Don't ever forget that he Saved Indian cricket from drowning into the sea of misery. Though India did not win so many matches during his peak career, he saved India from the shame of becoming a minnow like Bangladesh before the likes of Dravid & Ganguly.
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by ratrazz on Jul 28, 2004 10:35 AM
You know that Sachin is the player take most MAN OF THE MATCH and MAN OF THE SERIES in the world.That is because of match winning performance, nobody in the world has done it so many time.And you are talking about tendulkar, you dont come under this catogary. Go start your basics
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by Shruti on Jul 29, 2004 12:28 AM
Excuseeee me....U have NO right whatsoever to speak of Sachin that way...Let's see u go out there and play under the pressure of facing millions of people...........Just because u don't seem to respect him as a player, doesn't mean that he's not good. Personally, I think he's the best cricketer in the world, and at such a young age!....... First, make sure u know what u r talking about and then blab about what u think....And also, a match is a match, whether or not it's against a strong team.........Besides, Sachin's not the only one to play 'gainst those so called "minnows".....and it's DEFINITELY not his fault that he just happened to be so damn good. O well, the next time, u THINK before handing out stupid opinions.
Mr Rajneesh Gupta really seems to be obsessed with Sachin Tendulkar!! Why do you keep posting such trivial statistics? What good does it do when he fails in the crucial matches like the knock-out match with SL in Asia Cup? I suggest you come up with some statistics on what Sachin's contribution is in do-or-die matches.
