Pakistan is stil occupying aoeudn 1/3 of Kashmir and has finaced and will stil finace terrorsim to destabilise India. They are the sole cause of many Indian soldiers losing their life not the LTTE but he wants friendship, that fine. Then comes China wichi s occupying large chunks of Kasmir and the NOrth East of India, However he states that this is friendly and these invasions and occupation are neighbourly incursions. China is committing genocide on teh Tibetrans abd its humand rights recod is atrocious but they are good. Paksitan is the centre or the worlds terrorism, Their fundametalist Islamic terrrsim has no cause or evennot fighting against opression but just want the unwilling non Muslims of the world and even th evast majority of teh peaceful moderate Muslims of the world uner this extremist Islamic Caliphate. BUt Pakistan is good fo rIndianad USA. The Sri Lankan Tamils are fighting a recist and gencidal government.They are fighting for their survival. this Sinhala government doen not wnat to opress them but want the Tamil identity to be erased forever Sri Lanka. Liek what the Turks did to the Armenians. BUt they are terrorists. They LTTE are not innocent but armed struggle has victims and most of the victims have been the Tamils killed by the Sri Lakan Army.Very few Sinhlas have been affected. Whaat did mr MUkerjee say when his fellwo Bengalis inthe eas tPakistan reovleted aginst opression did he cal lthem terrrists too, I bet he sang a different tune.
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by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 12, 2008 01:00 PM Permalink
What mukerjee stated my have come as a surpirse to many South Indian Tamils. However teh Native Srilankan Tamils have all along known that the Indian government ws supporting the Sinhala Sri Lankan governments. The IPKF episode left them with no illisions or doubt of this. Th eIPKF only came under pretence of helping and safeguarding teh Eelam Tamils. but it became soon apparent to the Tamils that thier real motive was to see that the Sri lankan Tamils never realise thier dreams ot live in peace and dignity in charge of their own destination. as they have done before European colonists came, The same dream that all Indian and the Sinhlas now enjoy. they came to thwart this and just give some wataered down version of this ( this has now been dishonoured by the Rajapakse government so you can se ehow they Sinhlas honour India or wnat genuine reconcliation)and to support teh Sinhala. This is because of a perceived Dravisian greater Tamil Nadu threat. This is stupid as other than the common Tamil language the Eelam and Tamil Nadu Tamils are very different in food habbits, and cusotems and way of life. The Eelam Tamils are far more culturally closer to the Keralites than to the people of TamilNadu. Many Tamil Brahmins having some grudge against teh Dravidian parties took it out on the hapless Srilankan Tamils who in the least anti Brahmin or no tinterested in these Dravidian policies. Tehir behaviour was childish. The native Tamil Brahnmins suffered the most under the Sinhalas.
RE:What a lot of bull shit
by on Jan 12, 2008 01:05 PM Permalink
Nope, Sri Lankan Tamils are culturally far more closer to the Sinhalese than to any other group. There have been many inter-ethnic marriages. The LTTE is just as anti-Brahmin as the Dravidian parties in Tamil Nadu. Many Tamil Brahmins have become Sinhalese through inter-marriages.
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by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 12, 2008 01:20 PM Permalink
really why do you lie? is tha the reaon that frenzied Sinhla mobs burnt many HIndu Temples toghehther with the Tamil Brahmin Priests. So what was the reason that the Army recently wanted every Tamil Brahmin famil y to register their names in the Jaffna area. Why they wnat to marry these beautiful Tamil Brahmin girls to forcibly married to Sinhala soldiers. This was very common in the Tamil East where many pretty tamil girls were forcibly taken and amrried to SInhla soldiers. The Jaffan Tamil Brahmisn have always been very proudly Tamil and HIndu they are one of the few Brahmin commnities where hardly anyoen coverted to another relgion, and they are going to easily intermarry and become Sinhalese must be in your anti Tamil dreams. May ahve joned the LTTE
RE:What a lot of bull shit
by on Jan 12, 2008 01:39 PM Permalink
The LTTE killed and mutilated 13 Sri Lankan soldiers. In retaliation there were anti-Tamil riots in Colombo by Sinhalese mobs. What happened when Muslims burnt to death 50 Hindus on a train in Godhra? As for attacks on Hindu temples, go and take a look at how many Hindu temples the LTTE has looted, and how many Hindu priests it has killed, and how many Hindu temples it has used to keep arms and ammunition. The LTTE is far more anti-Hindu that any of the Sinhalese who actually worship at Hindu temples and have Hindu Gods and Godesses in their Buddhist temples!
The Sinhalese want to protect Ram Sethu while the Tamils want to destroy it.
If the Tamils didn't kill and mutilate 13 Sri Lankan soldiers then there would have been no anti-Tamil riots and if Muslims didnt set fire to the train there would have been no anti-Muslim riots.
It's quite simple really. This is not to justify riots but the way things happen in South Asia.
I think you have been reading too many LTTE propaganda websites. Tamil Brahmins are today almost non existent in Sri Lanka. They are vastly outnumbered by the Vellalas and other castes. You speak as if Tamil Brahmins are easy to come by in Sri Lanka.
The army has not wanted every Tamil Brahmin family to register Tamil Brahmin girls are not forcibly married to Sinhala soldiers Is this what your LTTE propaganda websites are spouting now? It gets better and better everyday.
The Tamil Brahmins in Sri Lanka who form a minute community are very
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by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 12, 2008 01:59 PM Permalink
My name is Sethu kavalar do youkno wth meaning of that in Tamil. The one who safguars the Sethu. of course you wil no tbe aware of this as you are only pretending to be half Tamil. The Tamil Kings of Jaffna were called SethuKavalar as one of thier sacred duties was to protect the RamSethu. This area came under the jurisdiction of the Jaffna Kings. they were very strong HIndus They even had the army to protect the Sethu. Even to this day many Jaffna Tamils of the Vellalar caste stil carry this tilte as thier family name. Some of them ar now Christians but they stil carry this title. The Prtuguse attcked teh Jaffan Kingdom as the kinv of Jaffna killed 60 0Tamil Paravars in the Manar area as they converted from Hindusm to Catholism. The SriLankan Talis paid a very heavy price fo rthat and are stil paying they list thier freedom a large amont of thoer territory and people who utimatlay became SInhlas and start postimng anti Tamil messages like you. That 80 % of teh native Tamils have stil remained HIndu desoite the barbaric efforts of the Portuguese to convert them to Catholism. They destroyes hundreds of Hindu Temoples. Mayn yfled to India and to the Vanni and returned later when the POrtuguese left. The majority pretend to be Catholics for around 250 years and practised HIunduism in secret, they openly became HIndus when the POrtuguese left. So dont talk bullshit. Teh Sinhlas protecting Ram Sethu indeed buttake stped to detroy formal HInduism.
RE:What a lot of bull shit
by on Jan 12, 2008 02:07 PM Permalink
You can talk all you want Chelvarajan Sethukavalar, but the LTTE supporting Tamils want the Ram Sethu destroyed and crushed. Are you a part of that bandwagon? The same people are shouting against Lord Ram who is revered by millions of Hindus not only in India but around the world.
On the other hand the Sinhalese want the Ram Sethu preseved. Not only that they have preserved all the sites in Sri Lanka that have a connection to the Ramayana. Eg Ravana Ella, Sitha Eliya, Wariyapola.
So who is more anti-Hindu?
Many of the Tamils in the Vanni are now Catholics, practially all of the Mannar region is not Catholic. Your claim that Sri Lankan Tamils faithfully stuck to Hinduism is completely and utterly false.
At least the Sinhalese stood up and fought the British, unlike the Tamils who preferred to be under their jackboot and dominate the country at the expense of the Sinhalese majority.
RE:What a lot of bull shit
by on Jan 12, 2008 01:41 PM Permalink
The Tamil Brahmins in Sri Lanka who form a minute community are very anti-LTTE and mix and mingle with the Sinhalese people. In the past race was not the problem but the caste. Tamil Brahmins would rather marry a Sinhalese from a high caste than a Tamil from a low caste and many high caste Sinhalese Sinhalese would rather marry a Tamil from a high caste than a Sinhalese from a lower caste.
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by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 12, 2008 01:39 PM Permalink
The Srilankan Tamil and the Sinhlas are culturally very close as yo hit the nail on the head as most Sinhalas are native Sri lankan Tamils. around 2300 years ago when Buddhism came to Sri Lanka Tamil Hindus in the South Central and North western parts of th Isaland became Buddhist and started to speak the newly evolving Sinhla language which was a mixture Sanskrit/ Pali and Old Tamil( the vehicle of Buddha Dhamma was Pali and Sanskrit) even now the Sinhla langiage is aroudn 40% Tamil,Is grammer and sentence structure is Tamil it is like some one has taken teh Tamil out of a Taml sentence and replaced it with Pali and Sanskit derived works. The place names of many plces ith Sinhla south soudn Sinhla at a glance butis actually old Tamil Eg Alagoda in SInhla means the mound withte waterfall. In old Tamil Ali meand whirpool, eddy, waterfall like neerali. Khiade means moundeg in Kerala KazaKhoade. During the European rule the Tamils in the western and southern littiral became Sinhala due ot the Catholic and BUddhist conversions Soon after indepnedence the entire Tamil Chilaw, Negombop and Puttalam coasts wwere forcibly conerted by th eSri Lankan government and the Sinhla Catholci church as Sinhalas. Similarly a significant minority of Sri lankan Tamils are descended fronteh orginal Aryan Sinhala migrants. thes eare the ones who reamainme dinteh North and East an ddid not become Bduhhists grduallay became Tamils. The Sinhalas call them selves Hellas which means the people of Eelam
RE:What a lot of bull shit
by on Jan 12, 2008 01:54 PM Permalink
Nope Sri Lankan Tamils and Sinhalese are very close because they have been mixing and inter marrying for centuries. The Sinhalese have always been a Prakrit speaking people and this language predates the arrival of Buddhism to the island. Tamil propagandists (the same variety who claim that Sanskrit came from Tamil) are trying to claim that the Sinhalese language came from Tamil and that it magically turned into an Indo-Aryan language because of Buddhism. My, I suppose then that when Buddhism came to Tamil Nadu the Tamil language magically turned into an Indo-Aryan one? Can't get any funnier than this.
Sinhala is an Indo-Aryan language like Hindi, Gujarati, Punjabi, Marathi, Oriya, Bengali. Ask any linguistic scholar besides the crazy Tamil ones. Its sister language is Dhivehi and not Tamil. Tamil has contributed vocab to the Sinhalese language just like Sanskrit contributed vocab to Tamil. Does that mean Tamil originated from Sanrkrit?
Many of the names of towns and cities in the north have Sinhalese origins. eg Valigamam is the Sinhalese Weligama (sandy village). Chunakkam is the Sinhalese Hunugama (limestone village). The list goes on an on.
Tamils invaded Sinhala Sri Lanka from Tamil Nadu and that is why they are found in the north and north east coastal areas. They pushed the original Sinhalese southwards.
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by on Jan 12, 2008 02:25 PM Permalink
Now now, there is no need for name calling. It just shows that you're losing the argument and getting irritated. If Sinhalisation will destroy the Tamil separatist campaign then I will support it wholeheartedly. Tamils need to know that they cannot steal Sri Lankan territory and claim it as their own.
Sinhala is an Indo-Aryan language. You need to understand that. Open any book on linguistics and you will see it is listed as an Indo-Aryan language. Tamil chauvinists may claim otherwise, but that doesn't change the fact that Sinhala is an Indo-Aryan language alongside Hindi, Gujarati, Marathi, Punjabi, Oriya and Bengali.
Veli is a SINHALA word for sand. Gama is a a SINHALA word for village. The Tamilised version is valikamam.
Hunu is a SINHALA word for limestone. Gama is a SINHALA word for village. The Tamilised version is Chunakam
Even in Colombo this process of Tamilisation of SINHALESE names continues.
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by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 12, 2008 02:11 PM Permalink
Idiot dont show your ignorance your listening to the racist Sinhla politicians on the TV who now are jusfying the Sinhlisation of the Eat wiht these false propaganda =. Fist of al lyou anti Tamil Sinhla si aorund 40% Tamil so it ahs many Tamil origin words that is almost half of Sinhala. Vei means in old Tamil the shore the sandy place so vei gamman means teh sandy place the Sinhlas use the old Tamil word Veli for soil understood read changam Tamil. Chumanbu means in Tamil limestoen even South Indian tamils use it, It is a pure Tamil word the Sinhla word Hinu is the derviative of this Tamil word eg Tamil Chennai Sinhla Hena etc many Tamil word strting with ch were change d to Hin Sinhala. The Sinhla word for elder brother is the tamil word Aiyan which means venerated person the old Tamil word is CHattam wich is now used in Malalyalam. By trying to run down the Tamil sin your ignorance you are proving the opposite you anti Tamil. You are only proving that the tamil ahve more right to Srilanka than the Sinhlas and most Sinhlas are converted Tami lHindu, Bye go and get a life .Hate other people less. Atlaeat you proved to the Indian in this formm ho wanti Tamil most Sinhlas are. and the Tamils wil never get any justice. Lor Buddah asked you to love so why all this hatred
RE:What a lot of bull shit
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:53 PM Permalink
If the Sri Lankan Tamils are fighting a so-called "racist and genocidal government" as you claim why do most of them choose to live in government controlled areas in Sri Lanka? Either they are very brave or very stupid or there is no genocide happening. Why would a "racist and genocidal" government appoint a Tamil foreign minister? He was assasinated by none other than the LTTE. Why would Tamil politicians contest in Sri Lankan elections and stand in parliament if there was a "racist and genocidal" government? Please stop with the rhetoric.
On the other hand the LTTE has ethnically cleansed areas it controls of ALL non-Tamils. No Sinhalese, Moors, Malays, Burghers, Sindhis live in LTTE-controlled territory because they are slaughtered for the crime of not being Tamil.
So who is racist and genocidal? The writing is on the wall my fried!
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by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 12, 2008 01:11 PM Permalink
that is darling because they are being ethnically cleansed. thoer land being systeematically emptied to make for Sinhla settlers. You know that. See what is happening to teh so called liberated east. Sroudn 500000 Tamilrefugees displaced. They are no tliving ther by choice but are force dby circumstances beyond thoer control. MOstnative Sri lankan Tamils stil live inteh Tamil nNOrth and East and in the Western countries. In the SInhla south they are mainly found in Colombo where many have been livin gfor generations. MOSt of teh Tamils living amongst the SInhla south are tamils of recent Indian origin who wee mainly brought in by the British, they have always lived there so dont talk half truths to create the wrong impression. Yo ahve dleberatley come here staing that you are of part tamil oroign to misninform and create confusion. Te hSi Laknkan Foreingn Minister recently stated that the Governments intentioj is not to have a single Tamil majority ditrict and their intentio is to have a 75% SInhla majority in al ditricts.
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by on Jan 12, 2008 01:25 PM Permalink
The government of Sri Lanka has actually been CRITICISED for quickly resettling all the displaced eastern Tamils by international NGOs. Read the news please! Why would the government be resettling displaced Tamils if it wanted to make room for "Sinhala settlers?" Do you only read LTTE propaganda websites?
More than 55% of Sri Lankan Tamils (not estate Tamils) live in the south of the country and now that the east has been taken over, much more. So please dont bring this rhetoric about "genocide." Like I said Tamils must be either very brave or very stupid to run into the arms of "racist and genocidal government"
The current Sri Lankan government retains its majority in parliament because of a Tamil party! If the Ceylon Workers Congress withdraws its support the government will fall. So how is that? A Tamil political party is upholding the so-called "racist and genocidal" Sri Lankan government
What a laugh! Please don't spread your lies. The Indian people are not fools my friend.
If 75% Sinhalaese majority in all districts will break the backbone of Tamil separatism then I am all for it.
