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  RE:Truth is always bitter..
by Secular India on Oct 28, 2007 11:55 PM   Permalink
Hindus have abolished caste system legally but read on. Its important to look within and not insult others

he rules of kufu%u2019 that the Compendium elaborates reflect the sharply stratified, hierarchical and patriarchal social context in which the Hanafi school of fiqh developed, and appear to negate the egalitarianism that is so strongly stressed in the Qur%u2019an. The Compendium lays down that a man and a woman may be said to be the kufu%u2019 of each other if they come from roughly similar class backgrounds, but it also introduces race and ethnicity as factors in deciding kufu%u2019. As numerous %u2018low%u2019 caste Muslims have argued, this is a means to legitimize caste and to preserve the hegemony of the ashraf castes%u2014the Sayyeds, Shaikhs, Pathans and Mughals%u2014all of whom claim foreign descent and, on that basis, assert a higher status than the masses of the ajlaf%u2014Muslims of indigenous Indian origin . As the authors of the Compendium see it, the Arabs are somehow innately superior to the rest of God%u2019s creation (despite the insistence of the Qur%u2019an and authoritative statements of the Prophet Muhammad to the contrary).

Thus, the Compendium rather clumsily lays down:

%u201CRegard shall be had in respect of descent among the Arabs, especially the Qur%u2019aish [the tribe to which the Prophet Muhammad belonged], and those non-Arab families who have preserved descent. People in the rest of the non-Arab Muslim world are mutually equal (sic.)%u2019.[7]

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  RE:Truth is always bitter..
by sameer on Oct 29, 2007 08:15 AM   Permalink
I dont know where u got this information, Quran states that all muslims are equal in the eyes of Allah.An arab is not superior to non arab.its the basic tenent of ISlam.so dont come up with crap.plus if you say that hindus have changed caste system that means ur forefathers were following the wrong religion else ur follwoing the wrong one

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  RE:RE:Truth is always bitter..
by Secular India on Oct 29, 2007 09:10 AM   Permalink
And by the way - Hinduism is not a religion and a way of life of people who live in India and that is why India is beacon of knowledge for the world. You can be a confirmed atheist and still be a good Hindu. All it needs is an open mind which questions things and evolves and progresses. ( No - Modi does not fit into the definition of Hindu )

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by masood akhtar on Oct 29, 2007 05:42 PM   Permalink
hi guys,

weldone sameer, guys, what i have seen this from a very long time, that there only a very gew hindu brother who talk sensibly on this, unlike scores of guys who just scribble wat comes to their mind, like the idelogies of RSS and VHP. I only urge that my hindu brethren go and do fact finding about the truth, till date no one knows the origin of hinduism.
the best thing would be to setup a dialogue between praveen togadia and zakir naik and let the whole of india watch it. Truth will come out

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  RE:RE:Truth is always bitter..
by ragadsingh on Oct 31, 2007 04:46 PM   Permalink
Caste System in India is grossly misunderstood by Islmaic Morons
and many others. Caste System is one aspect of Hinduism which was
given a wrong definition in course of time. Originally, Caste
System is one of the features of Ideal Vedic Model which allows people to
reach the final goal of self - realization where an individual
can design his own path to attain the supreme. Caste System was
introduced to help people of different types to attain that goal
gradually and in a systematic manner.


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  RE:Truth is always bitter..
by Secular India on Oct 29, 2007 09:06 AM   Permalink
No sir - what you may say about Quran maybe correct and I do not comment about things I do not know. You may want to read the Muslim Personal Law and find out facts for yourself or maybe speak to someone who is extremely knowledgeable on the subject.

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