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Dear Ismail Sayyed: Read this
by sridhar gorantla on Nov 12, 2007 02:41 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

YOU HAVE ACCUSED ME IN YOUR PREVIOUS POST THAT I AM INSULTING THE ISLAM AND HOLY QURAN. PLEASE READ MY EXPLANATION BELOW AND CLOSE YOUR EYES AND CALM DOWN YOUR MIND AND WAIT FOR A WHILE AND THEN AGAIN LOOK CLEARLY IN TO MY POSTINGS. YOU WILL GET THINGS CLEARLY PERCEIVED. A DISTURBED MIND CANNOT PERCEIVE OR ACT CLEARLY.

I am not saying anything negative against Islam. If you read my posting, you will see me referring to Holy Quran as "Holy", rather than any other way of referring to it. This means, I have equal respect for the saints of all religions, like Lord Krishna, Lord Jesus Christ, Prophet Mohammed and respect for Holy Quran, Holy Bible and Bhagavad Geeta, Vedic knowledge.

Any one who had a personal experience of the ALL PERVADING DIVINITY OR GOD OR ALLAH OR PARAMATMA OR HEAVENLY FATHER will affirm that all religious texts are same if you had the personal experience. Only when you donot know the truth, you will have difference but you know the truth to the full extent, there will be no differences.


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  RE:Dear Ismail Sayyed: Read this
by Imran on Nov 12, 2007 02:44 PM   Permalink
U are right all religious texts are same %u2018STUPID%u2019 and nothing else and people who follow such texts are the biggest fools. There is no religion in the world that an educated and intelligent man can follow.

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  RE:Dear Ismail Sayyed: Read this
by sridhar gorantla on Nov 12, 2007 02:49 PM   Permalink
Religion is something that is nothing but a set of rules, and if you put those rules to test, then you will find how much the truth that is timeless (or doesnot change without time) is there in the religion and how much is the content that is contemorary to the times when the rules were framed. If you only take the timeless content (or the knowledge that is included in the religious texts), then you will find that this timeless content is one and the same in all the religious texts, including the modern science, since modern science ALSO DOESNOT SAY ANYTHING OPPOSITE TO THAT OF THE RELIGIOUS TEXTS , WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIMELESS CONTENT.

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  RE:Dear Ismail Sayyed: Read this
by Imran on Nov 12, 2007 02:56 PM   Permalink
Dude u must be from some ashram all the religious texts have so many scientific errors and pornography that they can never be from a sane god. If god was responsible for all the religious texts then god must be insane.

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  RE:Dear Ismail Sayyed: Read this
by sridhar gorantla on Nov 12, 2007 03:05 PM   Permalink
Dear Imran,

As long as you indulge in the world of senses, you will find that things as pornographic, carnal, attractive, lustful, greedful etc. But, when you revert your senses from the world and control them and when you command them rather than you commanded by them, you will find that everyone is like you mother of your father or your brother or your sister or as an extreme, AS YOURSELF. This is the state of the DIVINITY. As long as one is away from this state, one has to suffer in the hands of nature by beong slave to the nature and being commanded by its rules.

So, give me examples of what pornography you are talking about.

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  RE:RE:Dear Ismail Sayyed: Read this
by praveen on Nov 12, 2007 04:16 PM   Permalink
Imran.. your words truly reflect your religion

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by Imran on Nov 12, 2007 03:15 PM   Permalink
Dirt is not in my mind but in the mind of religious fools who are responsible for all the evil exsiting on earth today. Mahabharat and Ramayan are epics and I cant understand how any sane person can beehive in such myths and fables. Religious people are like small kids who belive in nonsense kids grow up but religious people never grow up.

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by Imran on Nov 12, 2007 04:28 PM   Permalink
Praveen ur wordsdont refelct anyhting bcoz u are following nothing but nonsense of the highest degree. People who dance before their gods and then throw them in the water should not comment on others religion. I can comment on any religion bcoz I dont follow any.

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by Ismail Sayyed on Nov 12, 2007 02:54 PM   Permalink
Good Comments.

But i do not agree fully with what u said.

Anyway thanks for it.

If i hurted u in anyway,then I am Sorry!!

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  RE:Dear Ismail Sayyed: Read this
by Ismail Sayyed on Nov 12, 2007 03:43 PM   Permalink
There are a Million loop holes in Hinduism but I don't want to hurt Hindu Friends... I expect the same attitude from you...
Hope you guys understand.. If I open up the Secrets of Hinduism, then Rediff will become a XXX Rated Site... I want to act gently, No Politics Please


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  RE:RE:Dear Ismail Sayyed: Read this
by sridhar gorantla on Nov 12, 2007 03:58 PM   Permalink
Dear Ismail Sayyed,
I hope you understand the difference between the Hinduism and the followers of Hinduism.

Now, tell me what loopholes are you talking about. I will be able to explain if the loophole you think is just you imagination or a misinformation that you got or a misinterpretation by you or some others.

Do PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHICH ASPECTS YOU THINK ARE LOOPHOLES. Lets open up and clear things. I HAVE WISDOM TO ACCEPT IF THERE WERE MISTAKES DONE BY RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE IN THE PAST, BUT I MAY NOT ACCEPT IF THERE ARE LOOPHOLES IN THE CORE OF HINDUISM WHICH HAD ITS ORIGINAS IN Vedas , Bhagavadgeetha etc Holy Scriptures.

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by Ismail Sayyed on Nov 12, 2007 04:10 PM   Permalink
It was not meant for u sridhar.

one fanatic was uttering bad words for Islam.

Hindu religion is a Tolerant one..



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  RE:Dear Ismail Sayyed: Read this
by sridhar gorantla on Nov 12, 2007 04:25 PM   Permalink
Is this what the approach ISLAM taught you to take, when someone is palcing blame on Islam?

I thought, Holy Quran (for that matter, every religion) teaches the practice of patience, accpetance of mistakes, and facing the negatives (if there are any) by way of proper truth rather than beating around the bushes. Beating around bushes only leads people to more confusion. I would suggest, you give proper answers if possible, or else keep away from answering, rather than beating back with false words or false allegations.

REMEMBER ONE THING. Holy Quran never told to beat back others with false information, but only with truth. If we donot know truth, then, I guess, we can better shut our mouths and do a soul search for truth, rather than giving blasphemy. Rest, I leave it to your discrimination.

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by Imran on Nov 12, 2007 04:44 PM   Permalink
Sridhar u are doing a very good job of promoting Hinduism here.People like u are misled and u try ur best to mislead other people to the false religions. If the amount of money and effort spent on carrying out religious rituals were spent on development India would have been a developed country by now.

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by sridhar gorantla on Nov 12, 2007 04:55 PM   Permalink
Dear Imran,
People will realize things slowly, but steadily as more and more enlightened ones rises from the society and this is what is happening in India. LOOK AT WHAT THE GROWTH RATE TINDIA IS ACHIEVING? PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT INDIA ONLY AFTER CHINA, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SCOPE, SINCE EVERYONE WITH IN INDIA AND OUTSIDE OF INDIA HAD REALIZED THE TRUE VALUES AND ETHICS OF INDIA AND THE TRUE POTENTIAL OF INDIA, INSPITE OF SO MUCH OF THE MATERIAL AND MIND LEVEL DIFFERENCES AMONG INDIANS, YET BEING ABLE TO WORK COOPERATIVELY.

So, THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER AND I AM NOT BEING MISLED BY ANYONE. I AM GUIDED SOLELY BY MY INTUITION THAT IS IN CONSTANT CONTCT WITH THE UNVIERSAL DIVINITY AND I AM GUIDED BY THE LORD CHRIST OR LORD KRISHNA like SAINTS THAT INDIA EVEN NOW, HAS WITHIN SILENTLY AND HUMBLY.

ONE MAY DECEIVE ONESELF, BUT NOT THE ALL PERVADING DIVINITY, SINCE DIVINITY IS BEYOND THE CUNNING HUMAN MIND, AND WILL YIELD ITSELF TO ANYONE WHO DEVELOPS THE TRUE AND UNCONDITIONAL LOVE OR AFFECTION TOWARDS THE ALL HUMANS ALIKE.

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by sridhar gorantla on Nov 12, 2007 03:55 PM   Permalink
Calm down your mind brother. The core of all Holy scriptures is one and the same, its just the language and the words may be different and MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE INTERPRETATION DONE BY MAJORITY OF THE ISLAMISTS IS WHAT ATTRACTED SO MUCH HATRED BY OTHERS. But if you calm down the mind and then look a bit deeply in to the teachings of Prophet and if you remove all the rules in Holy Quran, that may purely related to the socioal-political-economical conditions or aspects, then the true core of Holy quran on same as that of Bhagavad Geetha or Holy Bible or that of the Vedic knowledge. Of course, this is similar to the way the world is made up of. If you look at all the matter, each has its own characteristics and properties and built up. but, if you dig in to the core of the matter, it is nothing but composition of atoms, which in turn is nothig but electrons, neutrons, protons and when you look even more deeper, are nothing but the same thing, which is called energy. So, if you look at the apparent level, matter illudes you, but the more deeper you look, the mor eunivty of the matter you find.

Similar is the riddle of religions. If you look at only the apparent levels, they make one confused and make contradictory, but if you look deeper or dig deeper, then, they are all the same when you look at the core.

SWAMI VIVEKANANDA AFFIRMS THIS. Read some of his speeches.

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