It is most unfortunate that some temple authroities are acting dogmatically in this twnety first century like primitive fundamentalists. The attitude of the people should change and should avoid visiting such temples if discrimination is shown and all the sane people should even boycott such temples and collectively fight in an intellectual manner. Whether it is a temple,church,maszid,synagoge or any place of worship, every one should be allowed to offer prayers.
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by venkatachalam iyer on Jun 05, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
Yes. I agree with you. If the temple authorities are dancing to your tune and fancy please do not go to that temple. If you have not adopted the rules prevailing at the temple and if you do not like you are at liberty to keep your self away from the temple. Can you go to church or masque and pray Lord Rama or Krishna. Hindu laws have been changed so many times by Indian(anti-Hndu)Government. If it is really secular, the Indian Government should also remove the practise and preaching of these religion in the church and mosque anti-human right and many clauses in their holy books comple to go against the humanright and interfere the rights of the other relegions. When the central minister vayalar ravi note and interfer in the affairs of the church and mosque and give justice to christians and muslims and also the others in India who wants to live peacefully.
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by R Sreekumar on Jun 05, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
Who created these rules in the first place - God/Gods or it/ their men? If the latter, then these tiny minority have no place in a democracry where rule of law and equality should prevail.
These rules are nothing but discriminatory and idiotic - irrespective of which religious priests put them in place.
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by Ramanath Babu on Jun 05, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
Mr. Sreekumar,
YOu are from Kerala, the birth place of Adi Shankara. The protocol of almost all temples in Kerala is prescribed by this Great Guru. I am sure, you have ZERO knowledge about this Guru, who is acknowledged world-over, but is comparatively un-known (in the sense thaty most of the people are ignorant about his advaita vedanta).
Try to know him better, may be your life will take changed course hereon.
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by brahman on Jun 05, 2007 12:26 PM Permalink
Venkatachalam - you seems to have got my message... Moral of the discussion: do not go to a temple if you do not believe in the prevailing system there....
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by brahman on Jun 05, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
fine - then also have the priests and management from non-brahmin community. conduct yourself all activities and do not depend upon brahmins for anything..
Let all brahmins and thanthris, namboodiris, pandits go on a day's vacation...and see what hapens to the temples.. and other religious ceremonies....
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by brahman on Jun 05, 2007 12:08 PM Permalink
world will not get doomed even if every human being go on vacation....the faith and religious activities would come to a halt dear.... try and learn to accept the facts...
If all teachers go on a days work, there is no point in keeping the schools open.. so as the banks (for bank employees), so on....
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by Dilip Ranadive on Jun 05, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
You have a serious attitudanal problem, friend. Precisely the attitude which has been the cause of present downfall of Hindu relegion. Please reform your mind....if people like you remain as you appear to be, Hinduism will perish .
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by ganesh krish on Jun 05, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
world will be a better place if there are no middle men in religion. why feed brahmin if I want to talk to God?? should stop religion from intervening politics, should stop darmastanams and Muts from becoming power centers
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by Prathap p on Jun 05, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
If you mean thanthri as a middle man, then I would say these politican will take away even the idol and sell it. Don't believe politicians they are ready to play religious card, secular card, caste card to make others fight each other and they will drink and enjoy seing the fight.They are bloodt cheats.
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by R Sreekumar on Jun 05, 2007 12:03 PM Permalink
You arrogant, idiotic fool. Nothing will happen if you all so called twice born brahmins go on leave - even if it is permanent leave from this world.
The world will not stop functioning. The so called Gods of the so called believers are not your captives, you idiot.
Stop making yourself look like an idiot and invite the ridicule and contempt of people around. Get some real education and life.
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by jitendra Tiwari on Jun 05, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
sreekumar u r biggest matarchod of this century. Best of luck And lasttly,Bramans are part of Brahma god.If they will go on vacation,then god will go on vacation,do u know what will happen than jesus and Allah will come capture u.Now u decide,with whom u want to stay.
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by R Sreekumar on Jun 05, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
First I forgive you for your abusive language.
Secondly, I think it is a good idea and i think you should take the lead in organising a strike of the brahmin community. That way we will get to see if your concocted theory actually turns out to be true or not. Do you have the courage, man?
Even if you die or I die, nothing is going to happen in our family, let alone the village or state or the country. It is the case with everyone. Somebody's presence or absence will not make any difference in this world.
However, if all Brahmins go on leave for a day, ofcourse, there will be some problem in temples. To know what are those problem you must udnerstand the difference between PRAYER and PUJA. All can do prayers, but only a brahmin will do Puja, since it is a specialised job, which he knows better. Without Brahmin you can do prayer, but not Puja. To understand this, you must be a beliver in God. A communicst like will not understand this.
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by brahman on Jun 05, 2007 12:11 PM Permalink
Sreekumar - this is what precisely I want to happen - so reduce the dependancy on Brahmins..so long as you depend on them for certain special things, you are under their diktats...
