All who belive in Hinduism or interested in Hinduism should be allowed to temple. Whether the person is hindu or non-hindu doesnot mater. The temple is for every one not for tantris only. It should not be alowed a bunch of Tantris define who should enter. If that is the tradition ( i think Tantris should be changed), then tradition should be changed. I am sure trandations in Hinduism is flexible and changed lot of times since last 5000 years. This flexibility/adoptabilty surivived Hinduisum last 5000 years.
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 05, 2007 12:13 AM Permalink
My dear sanjay do you really believe that mayawati was elected just because the favoured 3% voted for her? Come on you can do better than that!
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
"pls understand those xtainsa and muslims dont ahve the braoder accepting faith like hinduism !!!! .." that's why vayalar ravi was made to feel like the lowest of animals for entering the temple? we clean our homes & other places only when dirty animals & insects enter. Low caste & other religion folk are dirty animals to those brahmana priests?
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:46 PM Permalink
howisthat baby,the xians did just what the brahmana's did to the dhravidars when they entered hindustan through the khyber pass from Arya land! Did'nt the brahmanas kill ,rape & torture millions of dalits because the brahmanas firmly believed that the dalit hindus were born only to serve brahmana's begotten people?
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by DDBhaumik on Jun 05, 2007 01:41 PM Permalink
"Till how long will you keep dragging the corpse of aryan invasion theory with you? It has been even removed by all American universities from their syllabus for lack of evidence"
This is patently untrue. There were some attempts by some pseudo-hindu groups to get some US education agency to accept their attack on the aryan invasion theory. It did not succeed.
Anyway, how does it matter to the majority of indians who do not like to identify themselves as Aryan? All that is worth in India literature, religion, and science in the ancient times were the achievements of indigenous people, and not of Aryans. Aryans had nothing to do with it, irrespecive of whether they came from outside or inside. The hindu epics too were written by indigenous people who were not even Brahmin. Mahabharata was written by Ved Vyasa. Bhagvat Gita was written/ recited by Krishna. Ramatyana was written by Valmiki. Were they brahmins? No!
Aryan ethno-centrism is now being brought into discourse by some people who have a mis-guided notions of being Aryans, as if Aryan word inmplies some superiority, which it doesn't. The indigenous people of India were far uperior to the so-called Aryans. Now this too needs to be said: Barhmins too are indigenous people. They are not any different from other Indians. If you go from Tamil Nadu to Kashmir and Maharashtra to Bengal, you cannot escape this fact: A Tamil Brahmin is indisngushable from the normal tamil person. A Bengali Brahmin looks like the avera
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by DDBhaumik on Jun 05, 2007 01:49 PM Permalink
A Bengali Brahmin looks like the average bengali, and the kashmiri Brahmin is an average Kashmiri.
Looking at this scenario, are we all not equals? No indian is superior to another indian due to his/ her caste, birth, religion, profession, lineage. Let's debunk claims of superiority based on caste or race, by certian classes of people. It is our own efforts, achievements, and conduct which make us superior or inferior to others.
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:55 PM Permalink
We'll keep dragging the aryan invasion corpse as long as it suits us just like you were practicing the caste system as long as it suited you! Fair enough sanjay bhaskar ?
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by Sarath Chandra on Jun 04, 2007 11:18 PM Permalink
If we are so broader and accepting, why are we not allowing them into our temples?
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:40 PM Permalink
Mr Sanjay,if a temple is a bedroom then no one except your wife should enter! You should keep even the priests out !
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by Sarath Chandra on Jun 04, 2007 11:41 PM Permalink
Sanjay, I would help anybody if I can, if they ask me, and if they gain consideranly more than I lose.
And, I am not sure you are the spokesman who can talk on behalf of all temple owners (or followers or devotees) who will decide whether anybody will be allowed into temples.
And I really don't see the connection between me allowing somebody to sleep in my house and poeple being allowed to pray in temples.
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 05, 2007 12:11 AM Permalink
Mr sanjay just now you were making tall claims that the word religion & caste should be wiped off all application forms. And now you want to know if I am a christian? Does it really matter or does it to the RSS folk?
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by Sarath Chandra on Jun 04, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
We allowed them (some came), they misbehaved (which I doubt), and banned all of them. Is that a valid reason?
About beef and other rules that cannot be broken, these are the same kind of reasons they are going to say why they are not accepting our faith. They also have some rules which cannot be broken.
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by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 05, 2007 12:19 AM Permalink
Sarath Chandra, just a friendly comment ... Are you a Libran? Born between September 23 and October 22? I guess you like arguing very much. You are fond of talking about the "other point of view"? I read many of your other posts in other dicussions and I think you like arguing just for the sake of arguing.
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by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 12:40 AM Permalink
Dheeraj, Come on, What's there to be offended in what you have written. I am a cancerian, born Jul 4. I look at these exchanges as discussions rather than arguments.
About my fondness for the other point of view, I find 99% people defending any part of their own identity and refusing to acknowledge any flaws in that. When attacked, the most common form of defence is usually saying somebody else is worse again. The arguments go something like this, starting with "you are bad", followed by "you are worse", followed by "you are worst", then "you are worster" and so on alternatively, putting in some "reasons" or the other for saying so. For once I think all of us should ask ourselves the same questions and improve ourselves rather than prove the other person (or faith) is worse. I am putting forward my thoughts with the aim not to prove what is better, but with an aim to correct all the flaws that may exist among us.
In a way, I am happy with these forums. I am optimistic they will help.
RE:All beliver should be allowed
by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:13 PM Permalink
Have you ever heard of an Indian being turned out of a mosque or a church , even if he is a beggar ? Long live brahminism which is the other name for hinduism!!
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:38 PM Permalink
Mr raimer,A great tamil poet once said that "in the smile of a poor man(beggar) one can see God" We all know that you brahmana's babies have built temples only because YOU & you alone can live of them ! How will you entertain beggars even if they are hindus !
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by Raj Kumar on Jun 05, 2007 12:31 AM Permalink
Dear Tamil Arasan,
Your answers are all great to the so many radical right wing views posted. People like you do a great service towards secular nature of our Great Indian Democracy, which is on the fast track to becoming a Super-Power with the virtue of secular democratic fundamentals.
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
Howisthat my friend,Anna too was a great poet or did'nt you know? BTW 3% of the indian population cannot clain ownership of hindustan. Don't the recent polls indicate so?
@arasan: you are a known Xtian convert. Why don;t you allow Indian State to manage church affairs forst before opening your mouth, as happens with Hindu temples?
XTIANITY'S FATE IN INDIA IS SECURED AS LONG AS HINDUS ARE DIVIDED ALONG CASTE.
THAT"S THE REASON WHY YOU CONVERTS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT CASTE POLEMIC.
MAKE NO MISTAKE, EVERYBODY NOW UNDERSTAND THIS, AND THRO' HINDUTVA THEY WILL RESOLVE THIS ISSUE:)-
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:32 PM Permalink
My dear Baskar RSS Chatopadyay. It is becoming a fashion for RSS/VHP guys to brand all opposion as mullah,marxist or Xian giving the idea that all hindus approve your hindutva stuff. If it is so why is your so called nationalist party sliding towards oblivion so fast. Moderate hindus want to have nothing with you?
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 05, 2007 12:07 AM Permalink
My dear bhaskar ,I think we are giving too much credit to your mythical brahmin brilliance ! Martin luther king was an afro-american who was born after hitler ! How can hitler follow him? You must be refering to martin Luther. Hitler was an atheist who never went to church. Critics say he was the illegimate child of a jewish father who deserted his mom. Hence his hatred for jews . What better way to instigate passion other than religion as you guys are doing now! So he spread the message that he hated jews because they killed jesus christ! as if he cared! Jayalalitha has jailed sankarachariar for drug abuse & murder! Does it mean that all brahmanas are high on marijuana & brown sugar always & they go around killing people gangland style? Think my friend.
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
Hey sanjay choudry ! First mind your language! For your kind info. Sambar is the delicacy of brahmana babies like you in TN. I don't want to make a fool of myself by trying to enter any place of worship only to be turned down & insulted!
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by Tamil Arasan on Jun 04, 2007 11:34 PM Permalink
My dear sanjay baby. The minorities & dalits feel safer in a kaba than in gujarat!
