1. Ascetic discipline 2. A person of character and justice 3. A visionary and implements his vision 4. One whose judgement is reliable 5. One who has balls (this is not sexist, Indira had it)
RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 07:57 PM Permalink
6. One who is fascist, who can invoke emotions and trigger them for personal gains. 7. Takes election to a dirty level where in he doesn't the Prime Minister or Chairperson of the ruling party.
RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
May I ask you sir, how much is the muslim community responsible for getting such characters like Modi as hindu leaders. What do you expect, if muslims vote enmass on communal basis for 60years, hindus will not do it now ? I regret we are seeing this day, but you all are responsible for this.
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
i agree but that what can we do, it's not alone modi, also advani was our creation... but i don't voting enmasse was the problem, i feel it's a personality of anyone who can trigger emotions, advani was successful and then now modi... affected is not muslims alone, hindus would also be affected due to it.. why are they not votting enmasse then?
RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
On what basis were they triggering those emotions tell me ? You tell me now, the root cause was Babri Masjid, this mosque was of no significance to islam at all, it was not even used for so many years. But it was a very important place for hindus, your mullahs did not budge an inch, they created Advanis and Modis and all the other problems. 30 years back hindus and muslims worshipped in the same place and there was so much harmony. . You are your own enemies.
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:33 PM Permalink
Look at the history of RSS, see why it was created ? Even at the time of its creation hindu bodies like Hindu Maha Sabha considered RSS as a non hindu outfit. Who gave them this status, when we derecognized them. Who gave them this power ? ask this yourself.
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
By the way Babari Masjid is the birth place of Rama, we cannot ask proof for it we dont have it, you cannot give proof for your prophet (pbuh) splitting the moon, all these are impossible and a matter of faith.
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:21 PM Permalink
the root cause is not Babri Masjid, the root cause is RSS and it's other subsidary organs who lie outside the country for funds for helping people and then spent it for all communal activities, transporting kar-sevaks across the country...good way to fool people across the world... Babri Masjid...what do u no significance, if we don't use then we have to give it? There are some temples which are not used, can we demolish and build temples now? why is important for hindus, was anything there inside the masjid, it was a idol which someone placed few years back..think who is not budging, there is enough land in ayodhya, build outside the mosque..who stopped it... and first of all, why do u think its important place, of the 70 crore hindus, how many hindus go there ? atleast 1 crore ? forget atleast 1 lakh, not even a 10000 people go there.. as i said, dont get trapped into the emotional words triggered by few guys.. that's there family business, they aren't helping u or the remaining hindus.
RE:Qualities of a leader
by stav on Dec 24, 2007 08:31 PM Permalink
We can keep discussing this, it has more significance for hindus than for islam. Rama is a hindu God, Babar is not a prophet of islam. We can ignore all that, but if you guys had leaders who would foresee this problem, we would not have been in this state today. Look at the solution you have invited for yourself and us. These fanatics will take over to a point where you will have to listen to them. This could have been easily avoided, if you understood the sentiments of the people you live with. "Rama is a central diety to hindus, Babar is not so to islam." if you understand this statement clearly you will make progress in understanding the problem. This is an emotional problem which could have been solved easily , it was in your hands, you botched it up.
RE:Qualities of a leader
by Nikhil on Dec 24, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
shabeer mohammed I can understand. You will take time to recover. See a doctor and u will be fine
RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:03 PM Permalink
indeed i would need a doctor, but that's in modi's house, can u take me there please... baby, there is nothing to recover, yes he won, but Hitler also ruled Germany, i see many similarities...
RE:Qualities of a leader
by Pradeep Kumar on Dec 24, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
sha-beer-mu-ah-mad will never recover :) he's been intoxicated by "holey que-ran".
RE:RE:Qualities of a leader
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 24, 2007 08:15 PM Permalink
indeed, y'day night i didn't get sleep b'cos i was reading geeeeeta and instead of watching star wars movie, i read a novel called mahaaabarad..where all astras was being fired, oops Agni, oops Prithvi ;-)
RE:Qualities of a leader
by Pop Head on Dec 24, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
Yes. Ascetic. One who is gay. It seems Gays are the current poltical flavor in some parts of the country.
