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Malayalam writer Kamala Das passes away


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Narasimha
Kamaladas
by Narasimha (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 04:14 PM  | Hide replies

I was an regular reader of her My Story during 1970s in some of the weekly it is used to come as a serial. Her expression towards surpression of women in the society is reasonably good but her out of martial affairs are questionable, she fought for sexual freedom for women.When she was in mid 30s she wrote about her sexual enjoyment with others other than her husband, those days her My story was widely discussed.Only thing I dislike was her conversion in to Islam when she talks about freedom to women which can by found in Islam how she converted which was very irked me. However I will pray almighty to provide her peace may her soul laid in heaven.



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antoniopope
Re: Kamaladas
by antoniopope (View MyPage) on Jun 02, 2009 12:46 AM
SHE WANTED S E X UAL FREEDOM AND COUNVERTED TO PISLAM, BUT SHE WAS MISTAKEN BADLY. IT IS NOT WOMEN WHO CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE HUS BAND. IN PISLAM IT IS MEN WHO CAN HAVE ANY NUMBER OF WIVESS. SHE IS A SA DDIST AND NYM PHOMANIaaAC. WHAT A POOR END TO A PER VERT

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John Bosco
Re:What was stance on
by John Bosco (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 02:00 PM

The article and most mentions on her talk about her writing on female sexuality.It is said that she was bold and unconventional in writing about it.What was it that she wrote.
But it seems that she was in fact quite conservative and only late in life she converted to Islam having decided to experiment.Nothing remarkable in this.
What exactly was her stance on female sexuality that is spoken of?

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Nostra Damus
Kamala Das
by Nostra Damus (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 01:18 PM  | Hide replies

Very funny. She raised voice against suppression of female sexuality among Hindus then converted to Islam and wore burqa !! Talk about hypocrites.

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netholi
my respectful salam
by netholi (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 11:36 AM  | Hide replies

Dear Kamala , in my best knoledge u never hate anybody , all u have or had is love , pure love,
all your short stories , poems are filled with love only , and more over u were a bold woman, i hope the first woman writer in india who wrore about female sensuality in a very rmoantic and realistic way. religion is a private affair and it is a persons personal riggh change his or her faith in will is very personal , dont blame her for that. if u blame her for changing her faith u have to blame mr . A.R rehman also.


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antoniopope
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by antoniopope (View MyPage) on Jun 02, 2009 12:48 AM
SHE WANTED S E X UAL FREEDOM AND COUNVERTED TO PISLAM, BUT SHE WAS MISTAKEN BADLY. IT IS NOT WOMEN WHO CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE HUS BAND. IN PISLAM IT IS MEN WHO CAN HAVE ANY NUMBER OF WIVESS. SHE IS A SA DDIST AND NYM PHOMANIaaAC. WHAT A POOR END TO A PER VERT

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by antoniopope (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 10:17 PM
SHE WANTED S E X UAL FREEDOM AND COUNVERTED TO PISLAM, BUT SHE WAS MISTAKEN BADLY. IT IS NOT WOMEN WHO CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE HUS BAND. IN PISLAM IT IS MEN WHO CAN HAVE ANY NUMBER OF WIVESS. SHE IS A SA DDIST AND NYM PHOMANIaaAC. WHAT A POOR END TO A PER VERT

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by jawed (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 10:00 AM  | Hide replies

"Andha_tama prav_ishanti ye asamb_huti mup_aste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who wor_ship sambhuti (created things)."
[Ya_j_urveda 40:9]

"Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"
"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."
"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of wor_ship according to their own natures."
[Bha_g_avad Gita 7:20]


Since you are a B_r_a_h_min - can you answer why only B_rah_mi_ns can read Ve_da_s and not Da_l_its ? Why Dal_i_ts are bea_ten and k_illed for entering t_emp_les ? Why tem_ple trusts are owned by B_rah_mins ?

Prop_et Mu_hammad last sermon
O People, listen to me in earnest, worship A_llah, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadhan, and give your wealth in Zakat(charity). Perform Hajj if you can afford to. You know that every M_uslim is the brother of another M_uslim. YOU ARE ALL EQUAL. NOBODY HAS SUPERIORITY OVER OTHER EXCEPT BY PIETY AND GOOD ACTION.
Remember, one day you will appear before A_llah and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

A_llah = The One God in Arabic

Reflect upon it before you meet your Creator







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Re: Reply to the poster below :
by Guest (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 05:10 PM
Dear Javed,

Let us not get into the what is the written word and see the practicalities of what is happening. There is only one God. Hinduism or Sanatana Dharma reiterates this fact in many scriptures numerous times. But there are innumerable manifestations of the same single God. That too is supported by Hinduism. These manifestations are as and when required by the situations of the times they appeared in. DO NOT QUOTE SELECTIVELY. As for only Brahmins studying the vedas and others not doing so; it is the other way round. Whoever studies the vedas is a Brahman. THERE IS NO RESTRICTION ON WHO CAN AND WHO CANNOT STUDY THE VEDAS. Let me know if you are interested, I am sure you too can be instructed in the vedas.

Now, look around yourself in your own community and see how much equality YOU see. A Sunni cannot marry a Shia. Thats on a broad level. All Muslims in India are divided on caste too. They too do not marry out of their respective. And forget even about caste. Do you think, an Arab will let you marry his daughter even if you are the most pious of Mussalmans? You most definitely would not. If you want to go and live in Saudi Arabia, would you have the same status as an Arab. You yourself would be a second class citizen. There is no equality anywhere. God has NOT created all beings equal.

Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu!

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by mulamcs (View MyPage) on Jun 02, 2009 01:17 AM
Boss javid, you lot are illiterate morally and otherwise. Vedas never said dailts dont read etc. For that matter the one that knows brahma gnana (knowledge of brahmam) is a brahmin and not me just because i am born in that caste. Also in those days so called dark days, women (gargi) and dalits like vyasa and valmiki were the ones who gave vedas a meaning. First see from within what you know and then speak rather than quoting some crap some where. it is the mideval days when the present day OBC etc came did caste rear its ugly heads. Brahmins were never the perpetrators of the present evil. These interim castes (chaudari, jat, reddy, rajput etc)were the ones who created these and now they want to thrash everyone except themselves.

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by Rationalist (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 02:31 PM
Jawed. Come out of your obsession with religious. You guys are simply too much obsessed about your religion. We believe relgion is for people and you believe people are for religion. Today, it is no more a state that those who read or know Vedas are superior.NObody is intrested in it. Not even Brahmins. Today is age of information,Sceince and Technology, materialism. Rest does'nt matter. You are still caught up in crap of medivial times. Free yourself and move forward.

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antoniopope
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by antoniopope (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:39 PM
SHE WANTED S E X UAL FREEDOM AND COUNVERTED TO PISLAM, BUT SHE WAS MISTAKEN BADLY. IT IS NOT WOMEN WHO CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE HUS BAND. IN PISLAM IT IS MEN WHO CAN HAVE ANY NUMBER OF WIVESS. SHE IS A SA DDIST AND NYM PHOMANIaaAC. WHAT A POOR END TO A PER VERT

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Mainuddin Mahmud
Re: Let the bitatch rot in hell!
by Mainuddin Mahmud (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:28 AM
Why my message is awaiting MODERATORS review. I did not write any thing bad. Nor did I insult any one? IT SEEMS THE MODERATOR HAS ALSO DOUBLE STANDARD TOWARDS RELIGION, CASTE, CREED, NATIONALITIES !!

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by Mainuddin Mahmud (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:30 AM
The MODERATOR is afraid that whatever I wrote in my first message is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. That's why it is under MODERATORS REVIEW.

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by mars (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 11:27 AM
ya because the moderator belongs to ...... so why he will not review

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by antoniopope (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:40 PM
SHE WANTED S E X UAL FREEDOM AND COUNVERTED TO PISLAM, BUT SHE WAS MISTAKEN BADLY. IT IS NOT WOMEN WHO CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE HUS BAND. IN PISLAM IT IS MEN WHO CAN HAVE ANY NUMBER OF WIVESS. SHE IS A SA DDIST AND NYM PHOMANIaaAC. WHAT A POOR END TO A PER VERT

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bijo m
Re: Let the bitatch rot in hell!
by bijo m (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:53 AM
you f..k..g c.r.a.p. sharma.......first let your father to go to hell with the swines........a.s.s.h.o.l.e never critisise a dead personality and give respect, your mother didn't taught you all this!!!

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by tajender (View MyPage) on Jun 02, 2009 09:28 PM
better than nshvlng in a*s*

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jawed
Re: Let the bitatch rot in hell!
by jawed (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:53 AM
"Andha_tama prav_ishanti ye asamb_huti mup_aste"

"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who wor_ship sambhuti (created things)."

[Ya_j_urveda 40:9]



"Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"

"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."

"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of wor_ship according to their own natures."

[Bha_g_avad Gita 7:20]





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by jawed (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:56 AM
Since you are a B_r_a_h_min - can you answer why only B_rah_mi_ns can read Ve_da_s and not Da_l_its ? Why Dal_i_ts are bea_ten and k_illed for entering t_emp_les ? Why tem_ple trusts are owned by B_rah_mins ?





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by jawed (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 10:28 AM
Narayan Bareth/Jaipur



Temple entry is still prohibited for Dalits in rural Rajasthan. For instance, Ghasi Raiger, a Dalit, lost his life while he dared to enter a temple in the Madkiya village of Kotdi tehsil in Bhilwara district.



According to police, Ghasi(60), a Scheduled Caste, was murdered by one Narayan Gujar last Saturday. The police have arrested Narayan for murdering Ghasi and he has been booked under Section 302 of Indian Penal Code. Ghasi was ill for quite some time.



Perturbed over his long illness, Ghasi was suggested for praying in the temple to get rid of his illness. In a hope of getting well, the poor Dalit started offering prayers in the temple in the village.



The village has had a place for idols of various gods at one place. His frequent visit for darshan, had irked uper caste people like Gujar.



On the fateful day, Ghasi never thought even in his dreams that he would be killed while offering prayer to God. Police said there was a war of words between Ghasi and Gujar on Saturday. Gujar in drunken state had objected Ghasi's entry into the temple.





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by antoniopope (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:41 PM
SHE WANTED S E X UAL FREEDOM AND COUNVERTED TO PISLAM, BUT SHE WAS MISTAKEN BADLY. IT IS NOT WOMEN WHO CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE HUS BAND. IN PISLAM IT IS MEN WHO CAN HAVE ANY NUMBER OF WIVESS. SHE IS A SA DDIST AND NYM PHOMANIaaAC. WHAT A POOR END TO A PER VERT

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by jawed (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 10:39 AM
Patna, Oct. 12: A Dalit who tried to offer prasad to a Durga idol was shot dead last night in Nalanda, Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar’s home district.



Karu Paswan, 41, was stopped by upper-caste men when he and fellow-Dalits in Jiyar village tried to make the offering.



This led to a clash between the two groups, during which the alleged assailant, Ratan Singh, fired from his gun.



Karu died on way to Patna Medical College Hospital, 110km away, Nalanda police chief Vijit Vinayak said. Two others were injured. Another police officer said Ratan was absconding.





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Nostra Damus
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by Nostra Damus (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 01:20 PM
Well that evens it out. Upper class are prohibited in Govt. Jobs in Cities ! and perhaps in private jobs too infuture.

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jawed
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by jawed (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:54 AM
Since you are a Brah_min - can you answer why only Brah_mins can read Ve_das and not Da_lits ? Why Dal_its are beaten and killed for entering temples ? Why temple trusts are owned by Brah_mins ?





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by jawed (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 10:56 AM
rEAD THE hIND_U new



Court order ends Brahmin control of Chidambaram temple

and then tell me who is lying

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by antoniopope (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 09:41 PM
SHE WANTED S E X UAL FREEDOM AND COUNVERTED TO PISLAM, BUT SHE WAS MISTAKEN BADLY. IT IS NOT WOMEN WHO CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE HUS BAND. IN PISLAM IT IS MEN WHO CAN HAVE ANY NUMBER OF WIVESS. SHE IS A SA DDIST AND NYM PHOMANIaaAC. WHAT A POOR END TO A PER VERT

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jawed
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by jawed (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 10:46 AM
Mus_lims can't even worship Muhamm_ad .. so you can forget about worshipping saints and graves .. Go and check with anyone who has any knowledge of I_slam ..that grave and saint worshipping is prohibted in Is_lam ..



Kaab_a is not worshipped ...Go and check again .. Where is your rationality now ?? People have climbed Ka_aba and called for prayer ..Rationality can only come from knowledge of basic facts ..and based on your utterances .. it is pretty clear how sound your knowledge is about I_slam



Tem_ple Trusts managed my state govts .. wow .. that takes the cake ..

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by Balakrishnan Ponneri (View MyPage) on Jun 01, 2009 12:00 PM
Siddhi Vinayak Temple

Trust is headed by a Muslim. Thirupati Temple trust is headed by a christian.Can you allow Jumma Masjid to be headed by a Hindu for the sake of Secularism or any other churches by an Hindu? You people will immediately shout at for interfering in your religions. Because you people have highest level of intollerence. You do not know the history of Chidambaram Temple. If the Chidambaram Temple is taken over by the State Govt. they need to spent more on puja etc. whereas these are done by the Pujaris by visiting various devoties all over the world and collect funds for the daily core. Now, Govt has to spent. Is that not waste?

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by antoniopope (View MyPage) on Jun 02, 2009 12:49 AM
SHE WANTED S E X UAL FREEDOM AND COUNVERTED TO PISLAM, BUT SHE WAS MISTAKEN BADLY. IT IS NOT WOMEN WHO CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE HUS BAND. IN PISLAM IT IS MEN WHO CAN HAVE ANY NUMBER OF WIVESS. SHE IS A SA DDIST AND NYM PHOMANIaaAC. WHAT A POOR END TO A PER VERT

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