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GANGULY IS SELFISH
by avi chaudhri on Mar 22, 2007 08:06 PM  Permalink 

GANGULY IS SELFISH N TIME N AGAIN HES PLAYED SLOWLY. EVEN AGAINST MINNOWS LIKE BERMUDA HE TOOK 155 BALLS FOR HIS 89 OTHER WISE INDIA WLD HAVE CROSSED 450 MARK. HE SHD BE ASKED TO INCREASE HIS STRIKE RATE AT ANY COST IF INDIA WANTS TO WIN

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Wrong Calculation
by Pankaj Garg on Mar 22, 2007 07:59 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Above calculations are wrong for the case if Bermuda bats first and get all out on 50, If BD makes those run in 5 overs then BD will overtake India NRR.

At present NRR:
India = 5 (commulative, 2 matches)
BD = -4 (commulative, 2 matches)

If india beats SL by narrow margin say 1 run or in the last ball then their NRR remain same as 5 (commulative, 3 matches).

So BD has to cover a difference of 9 (-4 to 5).

if Bermuda gets out on 50, it means their RR is 1 in that match. so if BD makes that runs in 5 overs it means their RR is 10. So the difference is 9 (10-1). In tat case BD will overtake India




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RE:Wrong Calculation
by Aditya Bhakoo on Mar 22, 2007 08:06 PM  Permalink
do u mind shutt-ing up !
u dont know anything buddy, so keep shut.

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RE:RE:Wrong Calculation
by Pankaj Garg on Mar 22, 2007 08:14 PM  Permalink
dear Aditya,

Most ppl here has got wrong notion that NRR is calculated by adding total runs scored and divided by total overs taken. but it is not like that.

NRR is
a/b c/d e/f and NOT a b c/d e f.

I think that will clear your doubt.

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RE:RE:RE:Wrong Calculation
by Pankaj Garg on Mar 22, 2007 08:17 PM  Permalink
See plus sign at the space provided.

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RE:RE:RE:Wrong Calculation
by Arnab Roychoudhury on Mar 22, 2007 08:17 PM  Permalink
sorry sir! you made the same mistake as the above fellow... it is sum(a,b,c)/sum(d,e,f)... only in case of overs (d,e,f), if a team is all-out in less than 50 overs, their innings is still taken as 50 overs long...

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RE:Wrong Calculation
by Arnab Roychoudhury on Mar 22, 2007 08:13 PM  Permalink
cumulative sum is not done that way dear...
x1/y1 x2/y2 is not equal to (x1 x2)/(y1 y2)...
the second one is the cumulative run-rate, while the first one is average of the run-rates (which has no mathematical significance, since all matches do not last equal overs, i.e., y1, y2, y3 are different for each team)...
time to get back to Class VII algebra, right buddy?

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RE:RE:Wrong Calculation
by Pankaj Garg on Mar 22, 2007 08:16 PM  Permalink
you answer your question urself. NRR indeed is a/b added to c/d.
Average is taken every match and add those average and then divide by number of matches played.

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RE:RE:RE:Wrong Calculation
by Arnab Roychoudhury on Mar 22, 2007 08:21 PM  Permalink
cumulative run rate is not average of averages...
suppouse u make 300 one day so ave is 6... next day u make 250 all out in 40 overs ave is 6.25... then net runrate is NOT 6.125... it will be 5.50 because in the second match no of overs will be taken as 50...

otherwise all teams would try to make 300 all out in 30 overs, in that case nrr would be 10 which wud be directly averaged... not like that

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Wrong Calculation
by Pankaj Garg on Mar 22, 2007 08:25 PM  Permalink
Dear Arnab,
I am not saying that. In each match you have calculate the difference of averages of two teams, then you add those difference and divide by number of matches played then you will get the NRR.
I can bet on that.

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RE:RE:Wrong Calculation
by Arnab Roychoudhury on Mar 22, 2007 08:15 PM  Permalink
oh gosh! rediff somehow does not print the plus sign... at least i cant see it... put it in the correct places for my message to be understandable... thanx

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RE:Wrong Calculation
by sameer shaikh on Mar 22, 2007 08:11 PM  Permalink
You calculation is totaly wrong. In this case, I would prefer rediff. You are just referring bangladesh to -4 per match. But what a word rediff gave to this group... Wow I loved it.. Group of death

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Rain
by pravin on Mar 22, 2007 07:57 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Well what if it rains tomorrow what will be the equation then !!!! any guess ........

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RE:Rain
by Harish Bhatia on Mar 22, 2007 08:03 PM  Permalink
Neeche dekh bhaiyya . . Sabka messages pado.

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RE:Rain
by Karthik Marudur on Mar 22, 2007 08:15 PM  Permalink
Interesting thought!!! I think Bdesh will still sneak in bcoz of the Bermuda factor. Everybody in the Pool will beat Bermuda.
But I want the best team to win tomorrow and I believe SriLanka is the better team now.

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RE:RE:Rain
by Abhijit Mirajkar on Mar 22, 2007 08:26 PM  Permalink
Why not expect 2 better teams to go to super 8, and in that case india is definately better than bangladesh.

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RE:Rain
by sp on Mar 22, 2007 08:00 PM  Permalink
Simple. There is a reserve day for each game.
They will play on saturday. Now don't come to ask what if it rains on Saturday

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RE:Rain
by r r on Mar 22, 2007 08:00 PM  Permalink
Will there be a re-match then?

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RE:RE:Rain
by r r on Mar 22, 2007 08:02 PM  Permalink
Oh great then..the probability of rain on 2 consecutive days is less anyways...Thanks.

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RE:Rain
by techie Jr on Mar 22, 2007 08:03 PM  Permalink
nothing to guess.. its the fact..

There is a reserve day.. Even rain on reserve day.. both SL and IND gets 1 point each and in last match if BAN beats BER, India has to go home. Ohter hand if BER beats BAN, India will be in S-8

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RE:RE:Rain
by jatinder on Mar 22, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink
agar rain ho gayee to acha hai,vaise bhi to harna hi hai

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RE:RE:RE:Rain
by sp on Mar 22, 2007 08:12 PM  Permalink
Jatinder bhaiya.
Did you came at wrong place? we are talking about cricket here.

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The Calculations are wrong !!!
by Atri Dutta on Mar 22, 2007 07:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Well, we calculated the required run rates and we dont agree with the calculations that give the conditions required for Bangladesh win. We however do agree that India will have a net run rate of 1.67 if the match is just enough close for an Indian win. I belive Bangladesh has the best shot of overhauling India's run rate by batting second. If Bermuda scores 150 and Bangladesh reaches the target in 11 overs, Bangladesh can better India's net runrate of 1.67 If Bangladesh do bat first, they would need to score around 600 and bowl Bermuda out for 0 - virtually impossible !!!





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RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by afsar syed on Mar 22, 2007 08:01 PM  Permalink
Mr Dutta,

as in ur case Bermuda 150 and BD chase in 11 overs.. than also BD runrate will be -0.1

pls do calculation b4 commenting

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RE:RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by Atri Dutta on Mar 22, 2007 08:12 PM  Permalink
well, here are the calculations in rough:

150/11 = 13.something (approx 13.7)

net rr in that match = 13.5 - 3 = 10.5

that distributed over 3 matches... gives 3.7

-2 3.7 = 1.7 just betters India's rr of 1.67

:-)

(might be slightly different bcos rain interrupted play and Bangladesh target was revised in SL match: however should not differ much)





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RE:RE:RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by Atri Dutta on Mar 22, 2007 08:18 PM  Permalink
typo:

13.7 - 3 = 10.7

10.7/3 = 3.6

Bangladesh = 1.6

(make that 10.something overs and you sld get the exact 1.67)



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RE:RE:RE:RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by afsar syed on Mar 22, 2007 08:26 PM  Permalink
HI Atri,

I given in case of BD chase in 6 overs ... and u r still arguing for 10 overs.. i must assume either u blind or highly dumb fellow to understand rules.. pls go thru cricinfo for runrate analysis...

http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ABOUT_CRICKET/EXPLANATION/NETRR.html

i cant more argue with a dumb man.. sorry for that... hope u get the facts soon.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by Atri Dutta on Mar 22, 2007 08:28 PM  Permalink
@afsar

I just calculated the same thing, but in a different way... just assumed that the SL-BD match of 50 overs... need to figure why the difference is there... thanks anyways !!!



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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by Atri Dutta on Mar 22, 2007 08:31 PM  Permalink
Yes, I know the link... the typo message u saw was a typo one, i wasnt arguing with u... I know the link u mentioned...



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RE:RE:RE:RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by Raghvendra Pokhriyal on Mar 22, 2007 08:29 PM  Permalink
U stupid understand how to calculate the NRR.

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RE:RE:RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by afsar syed on Mar 22, 2007 08:18 PM  Permalink
hi,

Runrate will be calculated in different way...

Current BD runrate -2.002 ( 304/94.5 - 501/96 )

as Bermuda bats first: score 150
BD chase in 11 overs

RR = ( 455 / 104.5 - 651/146 ) = -0.1

If BD chase in 6 overs ( least possible per over 25 runs)

RR = (455/100.5 - 651/146) = -0.095 = = 0.068

then also way behind India...

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RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by Pankaj Garg on Mar 22, 2007 08:32 PM  Permalink
Atri,



You are absolutely right.

I am trying to explain the ppl here the same thing, but they have got wrong understanding.

Cann't blame them. poor ppl.

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RE:RE:The Calculations are wrong !!!
by afsar syed on Mar 22, 2007 08:42 PM  Permalink
HI Pankaj,

I pity on u.. on ur stubborn or idiotic or dumbness..

Best of luck

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OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by SAMEER A on Mar 22, 2007 07:51 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Oh God !!!

Let India Loose tomorrow....So that WE CAN

SLEEP AT NIGHT FOR THE NEXT ONE MONTH

-- PEOPLE ARE DISTURBING A LOT AT HOME,

OFFICE........BUS.. TRAIN

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RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by Darshana Munde on Mar 22, 2007 07:54 PM  Permalink
please ... Think abt urself playing ne game and then imagine people are saying like this .. then you will understand how it feels .. ITS A PRIDE FOR A COUNTRY MAN..

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RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by SAMEER A on Mar 22, 2007 07:55 PM  Permalink
PHIR...AAJAAOOO... YAAR

GALLI MEIN CRICKET KHELENGEY.......

AND U ... KARTHIK........... DONT WRITE

SMARTLY......

STUDENTS ARE HAVING EXAMS AND GETTING SO MUCH

DISTURBED -- HAVE U EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THEM....





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RE:RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by Aditya Bhakoo on Mar 22, 2007 08:14 PM  Permalink
nobody is forcing students to watch the match.
if the parents of students dont want their children to watch the match, then dont let them watch....but i think all this talk by Mr Sameer A is becos he doesnt know how to play cricket. Am i right Mr Sameer A ???

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RE:RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by Rimjhim Chaubey on Mar 22, 2007 08:10 PM  Permalink
r u crazy, don't u feel happy when India wins? If not then u can't be an Indian, I doubt if u r.
Well I give all my best wishes to the Indian team & hope for the best result.
Srish.

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RE:RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by Bengal Tiger on Mar 22, 2007 08:11 PM  Permalink
Galli me tennis ball ka cricket ka kuch alag he mazaa hain.

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RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by sp on Mar 22, 2007 07:55 PM  Permalink
you want to sleep well at night?
take 1 month leave and go to some remote place where even TV is not available, you can sleep peacefully. Let us watch WC(even if India lose to SL)

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RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by SAMEER A on Mar 22, 2007 07:56 PM  Permalink
STUDENTS ARE HAVING EXAMS AND GETTING SO MUCH

DISTURBED -- HAVE U EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THEM

IF U HAVE UR BROTHER / SISTER.......HAVING

EXMAS....... KEEP THEM IN JUNGLE

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RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by karthik Naicker on Mar 22, 2007 07:52 PM  Permalink
go to hellllllllll and sleep welllllllll.........

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RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by anuj agarwal on Mar 22, 2007 08:00 PM  Permalink
You are right. Cricket is no more a gentle man game but a waste of time and resources.

It is being played by Mafias(Coach woomer is dead because of mafia)

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RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by SAMEER A on Mar 22, 2007 08:11 PM  Permalink
THANKS BENGAL TIGER AND ANUJ..........

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RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by Aditya Bhakoo on Mar 22, 2007 08:10 PM  Permalink
i wish u had not brought a dead man into all this. let the man rest in peace. Ameen !

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RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by prashant khaire on Mar 22, 2007 07:57 PM  Permalink
Sameera are you Indian?

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RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by SAMEER A on Mar 22, 2007 07:57 PM  Permalink
PAKKA INDIAN.....MERA BHAARATH MAHAAN

.... CRICKET SHOULD VANISH .... IN INDIA

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RE:RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by Aditya Bhakoo on Mar 22, 2007 08:11 PM  Permalink
how about "SAMEER A" SHUD VANISH FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH !! U like that Mr Sameer A ???

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RE:RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by Bengal Tiger on Mar 22, 2007 08:09 PM  Permalink
Sameer i agree if India loses now its a windfall for students who are preparing for exams. If the team goes far ahead the students (especially boys), will do very badly.

Also, this time things are getting too tense with Woolmer's death (its getting sick with all the conspiracy theories floating around). So, an
early exit will not really matter. Of course few
walnuts will throw stones at cricketers house etc. But, who cares the cricketers have so many houses in India and abroad, the whole thing will
be nothing more than a small itch for them which
will not bother them too much.

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RE:RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by sameer naik on Mar 22, 2007 08:01 PM  Permalink
if you dont like cricket, and want it to vanish last thing you would have done it visited this site, spent time on blogging here.


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RE:RE:RE:OH GOD.......PLEASE PROTECT OUR SLEEP
by sp on Mar 22, 2007 08:02 PM  Permalink
definitely,he is from our neigbouring country. Why don't you join ur own country's forum, rather then poking your smelly dirty nose in this forum


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India will win ....
by Darshana Munde on Mar 22, 2007 07:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Common guys.. our team is playing for a country ... Its just a game .. dont be so harsh towards them ... They will do it ..

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RE:India will win ....
by SAMEER A on Mar 22, 2007 07:53 PM  Permalink
WAT UR INDIAN CRICKET TEAM...DID FOR U ......NOTHING.........THEY WASTED UR TIME AND MONEY..........UR PRECIOUS SLEEP.......

WAKE UP...DARSHANA......WE HAVE TO DO A LOT TO THE SOCIETY AND OURSELVES.........



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RE:RE:India will win ....
by suresh singh on Mar 22, 2007 08:07 PM  Permalink
mr. sameer ahmed i think you feel frustrated as pak is not in super8

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RE:RE:India will win ....
by Aditya Bhakoo on Mar 22, 2007 08:19 PM  Permalink
i dont think Sameer A is NOT Indian.... Wat do u think ppl ???

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RE:RE:India will win ....
by vishwas joshi on Mar 22, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink
Sameer what have u done so far for society. If India wins worldcup - A history will be written for ever - What will happpen if u sleep for one month - Since child hood sote hi aya hai na? ab ek month cricket dekh. This is not about cricket worldcup - Its about football also and olympic as well - because these are the event where we see quality sports person delivering the best performance. No one has become great in this world by sleeping a lot.

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RE:RE:India will win ....
by Rajesh V on Mar 22, 2007 07:59 PM  Permalink
If you think that they spoiled your sleep then why are you getting into the blogs and spoiling your mind???? better get onto something else and do wat ever is good for you...

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RE:RE:India will win ....
by vishwas joshi on Mar 22, 2007 08:13 PM  Permalink
Dear Sameer - I think we have written history in 83 because of cricket worldcup. If you where kid that time; then ask your parents or relatives - How did they feel when we won the worldcup? I bet u will also dance if India wins his time. Its spirit for country not only cricket but any other sports where India take part. What have u done so far from society? - let me know

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RE:RE:RE:India will win ....
by Aditya Bhakoo on Mar 22, 2007 08:21 PM  Permalink
even i wud like to know wat u have done for the society Mr Sameer A....

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india will make it for super-8. *written by RAJA.S
by Raja on Mar 22, 2007 07:48 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

iam sure that, India will win the match vs Lanka and shuts the door for Bangladesh, becoz of Saurav is in good form so there is no opening problem, in the middle order Sachin, Yuvi and Dravid(Wall of Indian cricket team) are there, if Dhoni n Sehwag flares well then no body can stop us to reach top-8 and even for semifinals also. To do that our bowlers should bowl well,like AnilKumble(BigB),Zaheer,Bajji,
Agarkar n others have to bowl well n fielding should go strong by Indians so that we can save 30-40 runs then it is easy for us.

Being an Indian i Pray n hope for Better India.
ALL THE BEST for Dravid & Co
best wishes by RAJA.S

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RE:india will make it for super-8. *written by RAJA.S
by Darvin Chaudhary on Mar 22, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink
Hey,
Our Bowling is flop. It melt even against Bangladesh. We can rely on Batting but how on Bwling. We can only win, if we field first. In that case our Batsman have a chance to chase target. They have better idea of target.

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RE:india will make it for super-8. *written by RAJA.S
by SAMEER A on Mar 22, 2007 07:49 PM  Permalink
Go go and play - LETS ........ C


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India will Lose
by Chhagan Bhujbad on Mar 22, 2007 07:43 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Two persons talk about India's Cricket match against Sri Lanka:
One person Say: India match haarega!!
Person 2: Tumhe apne aap par Itna Bharosa hai??
Person 1: Nahi!!! Mujhe India ke Haarne par pura bharosa hai...
hahahahaha
HAAREGA BHAI HAAREGA!!! INDIA HAAREGA!! haarega bhai haarega!! INDIA HAAREGA

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RE:India will Lose
by ihateganguly on Mar 22, 2007 09:00 PM  Permalink
BhosadChod Paki!! Fuc$ off to Pak

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RE:India will Lose
by sp on Mar 22, 2007 07:58 PM  Permalink
definitely,both of you are from our neigbouring country. Why don't you join ur own country's forum, rather then poking your smelly dirty nose in this forum

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RE:RE:India will Lose
by Aditya Bhakoo on Mar 22, 2007 08:27 PM  Permalink
yes...i think so too....lets show our neighbours the door to get lost from this forum...Actually, is the POTA (Prevention Of Terrorist Act) still alive ? if yes, lets book these two in that....Wat say ppl ?

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RE:RE:India will Lose
by SAMEER A on Mar 22, 2007 07:59 PM  Permalink
NEVER MIND

WE WILL ANY WAY LOOSE 2MRW

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RE:India will Lose
by SAMEER A on Mar 22, 2007 07:45 PM  Permalink
ZAROOR HAARNAA HAI

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what if India does what it always do.. lose to Srilanka...
by bhavesh nemchand chandaria on Mar 22, 2007 07:41 PM  Permalink 

Then what are India's chances for super 8..do any body know India's win / lose ratio for all matches played till date

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Welcoming Team Incosistent
by Bikas Bahutule on Mar 22, 2007 07:39 PM  Permalink 

We have kept all preparations ready to welcome the cricket guys (i won't call this a team as lomg as they start playing like a team)in different places. India can win SL but it is very likely that Sehwag, the silly will play and return back in the second over. Then the downfall of the team begin. These guys deserve good public thrashing, since they have no right to destroy India's WC chnaces. We have kept the tomatoes, eggs and bricks ready for the welcome show.
The Welcome group

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