With Amar Singh's vitriolic against Shivraj Patil, it is clear that the honeymoon has been shortlived. BJP should not allow church attacks etc to happen in its states and if does should take prompt action. The election plank for the party should clearly be Roti , Kapda aur Makan , hyper inflation , Pathetic internal security and never seen before terrorism and lack of political will of the current Govt to solve it. Conversions etc should not be created as an election issue .
Re: Election time
by Lopesh S on Sep 26, 2008 01:43 PM Permalink
Selective targeting This refers to the news item: Do more: Central team Even as the UPA government is finding it difficult to come to grips over the terrorist attacks, it has chosen to send a Central team to Karnataka to get first hand information.
People are at loss to agree with the UPA government’s selective targeting of the State with the attacks on churches. The law and order problem is not as alarming as made out to be. It is time the Centre keeps its own house in order by focussing on issues of internal security and external threat.
the divisions in Hindus and again the exploitation of various section for vote bank is daring such , can the minorities commisions pass such reports aginst the minorities communities involved in terror and massacare? Hindus are still sleeping the west is smart?
TATA MOTORS NOT ABLE TO START FACTORY IN WEST BENGAL. THE SECURITY STAFF WERE BEATEN UP. UPA GOVT. DID'T ISSUE WARNING UNDER ARTICLE 355 TO WEST BENGAL. IN NOIDA CEO OF COMPANY WAS BEATEN TO DEATH. POLICE COULD'T GIVE HIM PROTECTION. UPA DID'T ISSUE ARTICLE 355. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT 355 CAN BE ISSUED ONLY IF CHURCHES ARE ATTACKED. PEOPLE LIKE TATA IS NOT PROTECTED IN THIS COUNTRY. THE CHURCH MERCHANT OF RELIGION WHO ARE TRADING WITH THEIR RELIGION ON DAY TO DAY BASIS IS GIVEN TOO MUCH COVER. YEDIYURAPPAJI! YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE AND MET THAT CHURCH FELLOW. ANYWAY PEOPLE WITH YOU AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED WITH ENTIRE SEATS IN COMING LS ELECTION.
Re: BJP flays minorities panel report on Karnataka
by GG on Sep 26, 2008 01:44 PM Permalink
ELECTION IS THE REASON FOR THE CHURCH ATTACK. THANK GOD. You yourself told the truth. Where is the temple in Ayodhya where you demolished Babri Masjid. Giving that offer you got power once. So people are watching OFFER Vs REALITY.
Writing on wall is 'Mind your business Do not try to mend others' This is applicable to all religions and parties. We want others to bear insults but when it comes to us we cry foul. Is it right. Does karnataka CM becomes a Hindu CM as addressed by the christian leader?
Saying lies does not save anybody. My religious people are 'peace loving people' and 'Brotherhood is in our blood' and 'We have constitutional right to carry our work [ conversion, luring and coercion] and in the name of so many 'names' funds are poured to carry this work. Every one hates it. Silent majority of all 'Religions' should see that this minority of all 'religions' do not trouble the lives of all 'peace loving people'
In the name of 'some advantage' - political, cultural and regional [ language etc] we are all divided horizontally and vertically and integrating these pieces into a 'United body' has to be done now.
Re: Re: Mind your business Do not try to mend others
by Kerlapur on Sep 26, 2008 01:33 PM Permalink
sakshi, i did not understand a word of it! do you want to explain again? :)
Re: Mind your business Do not try to mend others
by America on Sep 26, 2008 01:39 PM Permalink
Hinduism and Buddhism.. were never involved in any type of conversion, in fact people on their own get attacted to this religion.. bcos of this missionaries there is unrest in this country
Re: Mind your business Do not try to mend others
by Lopesh S on Sep 26, 2008 01:38 PM Permalink
Majority of Hindus respect Jesus. But that does not mean you have to change your religion and forget totally your "Indianess". We have our own culture which has to be conserved. You are not aware of many facts. 1. Read about what happened in Goa during Portugese rule. 2. Search in BBC site about how Hindus were forced to convert or killed in Tripura. 3. Read more about how an international conspiracy is working on conversion in India !
Re: Re: Mind your business Do not try to mend others
by America on Sep 26, 2008 01:42 PM Permalink
They are trying to divide peaceful India into Pieces I N D I A.. now they are Asking Nagaland.. then they will ask Meghalaya.. Kashmir... Tamilnadu.. after that this convert Indians and their missinaries will realise what they did to their country... when their culture will be no more..
guys no use in figthing amonst ourselves.hindus muslims and christians should correct thier mistakes and live in harmony.there is no good for us in future and also for nation by spilling hatred among ouselves jai hind
Re: indian
by MK on Sep 26, 2008 01:40 PM Permalink
that is only possible when ur people in Mangalore are come out from thier religious mentality, people here so communal minded and waiting for some reason to go for communal violence. Mangalore is good place with very bad people.
I am a mangalorean. I canot understand why NCM were not met seriously attacked and hospitilised police personnel. More than 42 police constables attacked by prosted Christian youths. Any english media or TV channels not focused in this point
Re: Unfortunate findings
by Lopesh S on Sep 26, 2008 01:48 PM Permalink
Alarming 5 fold increase in Kandhamal Christian population from six per cent in 1971 to 27 per cent in 2001 ,It began with the arrival of Christian missionaries in the area who found the remote region very conducive to conduct prosetylization amongst the poor tribals. The conversions continued unhindered until the arrival of Swami Laxmanananda who put strenuous efforts to stop conversions and help reconversion to Hinduism as well. If not for his effort Kandhamal would have been another Nagaland in the making where the separatist movement has wrecked havoc in the state.
The aggressive Christian proselytization in Orissa today pitched previously peaceful tribals into warring camps of Christians and non-Christian. This has has vitiated the peace that has existed with various communities for millenia.
Why Orissa
Orissa has been specially targeted because of a huge tribal population. This allows the missionaries to work from the scrutiny of the media and carry our their nefarious activities.
In Kandhamal district, for instance, the Christian population has increased from six per cent in 1971 to 27 per cent in 2001, despite a law enacted by the Orissa Legislature in 1967 to prevent conversion by allurement, coercion, bribery and cheating.
Re: Unfortunate findings
by Lopesh S on Sep 26, 2008 01:35 PM Permalink
Answer - The bias of the anti-Hindu electronic English media is evident in the hyper excited reporting of the church attack. The likes of Girish Karnad, U R Ananthamurthy and Mahesh Bhatt Teesta Shabana Azmi Barka Dutt Sardesai know which side of their bread is buttered. Their selective amnesia is amusing. Did these raise any voice in support of amaranth pilgrims protest or against durga pooa protest
Nobody talks about the brutal killling of Swami Laxmanananda and his 4 associates, burning of the Radhabai chawl that killled 16 people, which provoked sharp reaction from the Hindu community, Godhra train carnage and Marad killling which was buried silently by so called seculars.
They never react on lakhs of Hindus being displaced from Kashmir. These opportunists are no better than traitors of the past who are ready to sell the dignity of the country for their selfish gains.
Well ... Lemme remind you about Da vinci Code, that was released a few years ago. Did u hear any violence. The church protested , but peacefully....
If anyone has issues, with any person or organisation , there is a court of law. Taking law into your own hands makes you a criminal or a thug. Nothing more.. So stop calling any fundamentalist , whether Hindu muslim , christian , buddhist , sikh,.... and Indian. A Fundamentalist is just a CRIMINAL.
Re: STOP SUPPORTING CRIMINALS
by Vishwamithran TKB on Sep 26, 2008 01:31 PM Permalink
It seems that you are an educated and intelligent person. Can you please answer my simple question "What was the reason for this so called violence against peaceloving, service oriented (for nothing) christians in the state?"
Re: STOP SUPPORTING CRIMINALS
by Krishnan Hariharan on Sep 26, 2008 01:28 PM Permalink
how can u call the white-clad, solemn faced, missionaries who distribute Bibles and peacefully urge the hindus by denigrating their Gods and intruding into their villages as criminals? they are not fundamentalists, they have lost the fundamentals!
Re: Re: STOP SUPPORTING CRIMINALS
by America on Sep 26, 2008 01:33 PM Permalink
Tell me without conversion also hindus use to go to the church.. and still they are going to church, in mount Marry lakhs of hindu devottes pray over there.. it is a matter of belief christianity doesnt mean u can do any thing and feel that only christians can go to heaven..
Re: STOP SUPPORTING CRIMINALS
by Lopesh S on Sep 26, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
Look how congress is endorsing and legalizing forced conversions
The problem of conversion will automatically solve if the root cause is traced and the financial problems of the poor in Hindu religion are properly dealt with, said State Youth Congress President Krishna Bairegowda.
Re: STOP SUPPORTING CRIMINALS
by America on Sep 26, 2008 01:30 PM Permalink
So tell ur christan missionaries y conversion... u have seen what they have done in Nagaland ... even their christian population is 90% then y they are attacking hindus.. there y militancy (NLFT) y they demand a seperate nation, thats what ur missionaries have done in India and abroad..
Re: STOP SUPPORTING CRIMINALS
by sixsigma on Sep 26, 2008 02:13 PM Permalink
This is a big conspiracy led by so called Sonia gandhi and supported by people like Y S Rajasekhar reddy and others.
Re: STOP SUPPORTING CRIMINALS
by Blazer on Sep 26, 2008 01:32 PM Permalink
Peacefully my foot the Imax theatre was ransacked in Hyd. The film was postponed get your facts right Mr Globetrotter
Re: ban all
by Lopesh S on Sep 26, 2008 01:27 PM Permalink
The bias of the anti-Hindu electronic English media is evident in the hyper excited reporting of the church attack. The likes of Girish Karnad, U R Ananthamurthy and Mahesh Bhatt Teesta Shabana Azmi Barka Dutt Sardesai know which side of their bread is buttered. Their selective amnesia is amusing. Did these raise any voice in support of amaranth pilgrims protest or against durga pooa protest
Nobody talks about the brutal killling of Swami Laxmanananda and his 4 associates, burning of the Radhabai chawl that killled 16 people, which provoked sharp reaction from the Hindu community, Godhra train carnage and Marad killling which was buried silently by so called seculars.
They never react on lakhs of Hindus being displaced from Kashmir. These opportunists are no better than traitors of the past who are ready to sell the dignity of the country for their selfish gains.
instead of fighting among ourselves ;its better hindus ,muslims and christians live in harmony with mutual respecT and work for the betterment of the nation
Re: all r brothers and sisters
by America on Sep 26, 2008 01:24 PM Permalink
for that christians have to stop conversion... and north east region like Nagaland have to stop their cause for seperate Nation..
If anyone has issues, with any person or organisation , there is a court of law. Taking law into your own hands makes you a criminal or a thug. Nothing more.. So stop calling any fundamentalist , whether Hindu muslim , christian , buddhist , sikh,.... and Indian. A Fundamentalist is just a CRIMINAL.
