Re: SHANKER SAYS - BURNING THE HOUSING & KILLING THE PEOPLE IN VARIOUS BJP RULING STATES IS WITHOUT HUMAN LOSS- GREAT ???
by Simron Shah on Sep 26, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
Ur all sick persons. Why ur putting black cloth on ur eyes ehrn hundres and thousand of hindus are driven out from Kashmir, not allowing dasara celebrations in North east. Why ur not killed by hindhus? Sick ppl, get lost from Hindhusatna.
Re: Abolish minority commission
by Rukmesh Singh on Sep 26, 2008 12:19 PM Permalink
abe SS, we are all hindus, the media, whom you are accusing are also hindus. We do not need any certificate from you guys.. saale tum log yahan se chale jaao .. society me jahal failate ho tum log.. idiots
Re: Abolish minority commission
by Simron Shah on Sep 26, 2008 12:41 PM Permalink
What is ur contribution for Hindhuism? BIG ZERO. Just because of ppl like u, these muslims and x-cians attacked India and spread their religion. Kao, pio and sojao tye ppl. If a dog is born in hindhu family it not becomes hindhu same applies to you. Just go and see what happend in Noth east, where mejority are converted to x-cians, love to be separated from India. Go and see in Kashmir, muslims are mejority, want to go away from India. Chu--ye, smajo pahele, baadh men bolo.
Re: Abolish minority commission
by globetrotter on Sep 26, 2008 12:23 PM Permalink
We certainly don't need a minority commision , the day we dont have fundamentalist . Majority Indians are not fundamentalists. Please don't play a part in creating more. We have other issues in life to handle. You think minority can convert majority by force... Ridiculous ... utterly ridiculous...
Re: Abolish minority commission
by sundar on Sep 26, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
I URGE PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN SOME DECORUM AND NOT SPREAD HATE OUT HERE.I ALSO STERNLY WARN REDIFF MODERATOR TO REIN IN AND WORK B4 THE COMMENTS GET POSTED LIKE OTHER FORUMS.
OR ELSE ILL TAKE A PRINT OUT OF THESE PAGES AND FILE A PIL IN THE SUPREME COURT..ALL FAKE IDS WILL HAVE A TOUGH TIME THEN IF THE COURT DECIDES TO TRACK THE HATE MONGERS OF WHATEVER RELIGION..
REDIFF ALREADY HAD FOUGHT A CASE RELATED TO PORNOGRAOHY..SO NO LENIENCY WILL BE OBSERVED BY THE S.C. I WARN AND I MEAN IT..BECAUSE FILING A PIL IS NOT A TOUGH JOB..ALL I NEED IS AN ENVELOPE WITH PRINT OUTS..TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY..
Re: Hindus are to be blamed for electing Congress/Secular parties
by arvi on Sep 26, 2008 12:21 PM Permalink
Well...our society on a whole is in coma state...they are least bothered about the happenings...They cry only when they get hurt..n never stand for their own people.... Pathetic Hindus...Wake up...!!
Thanks Sham sunder, nice to know that at least a few are on the track!!
Re: Hindus are to be blamed for electing Congress/Secular parties
by arunava banerjee on Sep 26, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
They r nt secular party they r minority party
Re: Hindus are to be blamed for electing Congress/Secular parties
by ajay agrawal on Sep 26, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
excellent example,send this message to sonia gandhi
India can never improve until the 70% of the people living below poverty line are raised to the mainstream and have good living standards and education. No good law can be enforced in India untill people are educated and aware of the same. Otherwise there will be severe humanitarian issues. This is one of the reason why India can't implement good laws like in US and Europe. We need to understand that the SC/ST's & OBC's constitute 80% of the poor people in India. They are getting suppressed by upper castes from thousands of years. Upper caste's doesn't like even giving some reservation to these poor people. So how can India become a developed nation. India will never improve until the upper caste feudals understands and act on this reality. Hinduism never allows the upliftment of the poor. This is the basis of people getting converted to other religions where they treat everyone as equals. Also Hinduism is not a religion by itself and its a way of life.
Re: For the future of India
by ayesha desai on Sep 26, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
GG, First of all, tell us who are upper caste people? If you say,Yadavs,Buddhists Paswans, Singhs and Sonia's etc are upper castes, I full agree with you as they have been suppressing who were is against them . Muslims and Christians had been suppressing Hindus during pre-independence days. Psuedo-secularists, have been suppressing Hindus during the post-independence days. All Muslims and Christians have been getting enormous funding by the UPA government. In Karnataka alone yearly 80 crore rupees are coleected from Hindu tempoles and this money is used for setting up madarasas and haj subsidy. This exploitation of Hindus must stop if India has to progress.
Re: For the future of India
by GG on Sep 26, 2008 12:56 PM Permalink
Hi Ayesha Desai, "Hindus are getting persecuted only by Hindus" and not by any other religion. You can have an exploration about my above statement. I too aware about the Haj subsidy by governments. You need to correct ur statements in future. You are misleaded & brainwashed by the propaganda of VHP & BAJRANGDAL. ITS THE TAX PAYERS MONEY WHICH IS USED FOR HAJ SUBSIDY AND NOT THE MONEY FROM TEMPLE. Also its a very very small amount compared to the small money collected in temples. Also you need to explore about the mass corruption in Temple Trust which is forcing the Governments to appoint Administrators for Temple. I can give u one small example Sabarimala temple in Kerala. Its one of the richest temple in India and corruption is the major issue with Sabarimala. Rest of the money is used for the salary and maintenace of other temples in the Devaswom. Money is unnecessarily wasted for Utsavs and think about what will happen if its used for the welfare of poor hindus. Same is the case with most of the temples in this country. NO CHARITY , ONLY EXPENSES AND CORRUPTION.
Re: For the future of India
by Raghavan Dharan on Sep 26, 2008 12:20 PM Permalink
Even if Hinduism is a way of life, do you agree that it should be disturbed by all means?
Re: For the future of India
by GG on Sep 26, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
Hinduism should not be disturbed. I too totally agree with u. But its high time for Hinduism to change its way of functioning. Hindus must start doing CHARITY and UPLIFTMENT OF POOR. There is nothing called Charity in Hinduism. Indai will be better nation only by the upliftment of SC?Sts and OBCs and upper caste Hindus doesn't like this. Huge amount of cash from wealthy temples like Thirupathy must be utilized for the welfare of atleast poor hindus. Casteism must be abolished and harijans have to be brought to the mainstream. 70% of Indians are SC,STs or OBCs.
Re: Re: For the future of India
by ayesha desai on Sep 26, 2008 12:39 PM Permalink
GG, You should know that all rich temples are controlled by state govts which are ruled by people belonging to OBC, SC and ST's. They are using temple money for setting up madarasa, haj subsidy etc. If you are not aware of it, give me your e-mail address, I will forward a copy of Govt. of Karnataka notification showing 90% of funds collected from Hindu temples being used for spreading of Islam and christianity by the earstwhile Congress govt when SM Krishna was the chief minister. Please do not write unless you know the facts.
Re: For the future of India
by uday on Sep 26, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
with 80% backward people and more that 90% reservation in most states what discrimination are we talking about.....most of the states are ruled by either minorities or backward caste people....who are the forward castes causing discrimination now a days.....looks like the media and people are back dated to more than half a century.....
A close study will show that the discrimination is mostly by the backward to their own community and the past is rekindled to show the forwards as scarecrows...its the paki style of outlining India in the negative....
there are so many muslim players playing for india.....there shud be least one selector who is muslim so that there is no partiality and muslims get fair chnce also there shud be fir number of muslims in the BCCI. I just want that there shud not be any room for discrimination....and things happen in secular way
Re: what else do you expect
by MOON MOON on Sep 26, 2008 12:17 PM Permalink
Well said. These so called sickular swines snort and wriggle only when the minorities are hurt. If the Hindus are hurt, then it is bad luck and these swines are in deep sleep.
Re: what else do you expect
by ram mohan on Sep 26, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
Brutal killling of Swami Laxmanananda and his 4 associates-What is opinion Orissa chief minister reagarding This?
Radhabai chawl that killled 16 people-Who is responsible for inciting communal riots by demolishing a disputed structure,which was subjudice?
Godhra Train carnage-Without going for true fact finding enquiry,why rulers gone Inciting the communal flares and Polarising the whole state?.
Marad Killing-In Kerala communal tensions happens very rarely.Most of them are political Killings?Why r u giving it a communal colour?
Re: what else do you expect
by SunriseHR on Sep 26, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
for every action ..there is a equal and opposit reaction...you must be joking....then there is a reaction pending for babri masjid demolistion...gujrat riots...killing of inocent indians in orrissa...killing of dalits....which happens almost every day accross India... the issue here is of some huligans trying to destroy indian peace ...you are happy bringing politics...you shuld b aware what is happning in Islamic nations...you wish for the same to happen to india...its not religion thats a issue here...its the politicians...BJP & CONGRESS...THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO BE IN POWER...
Minority support is going beyond the boundries these days...every issue is politicalized....
When there was bomb blast no one protested now when the christians were thought in a hard way to stop conversion...there is a protest from indo-american christians in US!!..Wow have u ever protested for anything good for the country? answer is no...but these people are well ahead to make this issue big n get sympathy.(may b they want to show there strength)...
These minorities after getting all support they dont do any thing for this country ...there heart is else where...they ll be looking to shift either to US or Gulf in case of muslims..there are exceptions but that is nill when compare to majority..
People, Please use your freedom of speech , and expression judiciously. Please don't pass comments , unless you are sure abt facts ... Please note , there are millions of people reading your comments. Regards,
Re: Appeal
by Lopesh S on Sep 26, 2008 12:13 PM Permalink
Pope has lot of Hope in Bharath
There was a major change more recently, one that became clear when Pope John Paul II unveiled the document 'Ecclesia in Asia' when he came here in 1999. The Holy Father said on that occasion, 'The peoples of Asia need Jesus Christ and his gospel. Asia is thirsting for the living water that Jesus alone can give.' Can you blame Hindus for worrying after that?
Please note that during Portuguese rule when the Catholics made converts at the point of the sword. Hindus be alert and protect your religion and children
Re: Forced conversions a boiling issue next to terrorism
by globetrotter on Sep 26, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
Religion is one of the fundamental rights everyone has. Whether for money or faith , its yours. You can believe in whatever you want .
Btw ... In case you think its money that's converting people , why don't you pay them and convert them back .
Eitherways , please get facts right . Origins of Christianity in India are over 2000 years. Please get facts right before passing comments.
Re: Forced conversions a boiling issue next to terrorism
by ram mohan on Sep 26, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
Dalits and vanvasis are unwanted people of Hindu religion.Even they are not included in the four caste accpted by Manu.Even Upper caste Hindus Consider them as liability to Hindu religion.some of them eat Beef,rat,all wild animals.So leave them,let them go to hell after comverting to christianity or any other religion of their choice.Hindu can be happy once they are out the pure Hindu religion according to Manu smiriti
