Let us call "The Creator" (Allah of the muslims, holy trinity of the Christians or the holy trinity of the hindus - Brahma, Vishnu and Maheshwara or whatever he is) and have debate and understand for ourselvles how many languages he can speak!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:@ The Brain
by The Brain on Mar 12, 2008 04:06 PM Permalink
You can call the Creator by any name ... like Brahma which means the sustainer of the universe there is no harm in it, but if you say that brahma has a shape and the look and he is look like a man or have 4 head and all than it is not acceptable as God has no image.
RE:@ The Brain
by on Mar 12, 2008 04:09 PM Permalink
brain, Brahma's idol or image is just immagination.Dont worry-Noone knows his looks.Unless u immagine anything it becomes a ghost figure right?
RE:@ The Brain
by Chandra Prakash on Mar 12, 2008 04:06 PM Permalink
JGN Puttar, can you arrange a debate between Karunanidhi and Bala Thakarey ????? Subject should be regionalism Vs selfishness.
RE:RE:@ The Brain
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 04:15 PM Permalink
Sincere Citizen, the message was for The Brain(less) who claimed that God can understand all languages! I wonder why the hindus priests are praying in Sanskrit, the Azan is given in Arabic and the "Mass" in Chruches is conducted in "Latin" if the all powerful creator can understand all languages!!!! So according to logic, he is not a multi-lingist!
Intresting to see here IDOLTROUS who are living in darkness are questioning about the authenticiy of islamic religious books,,, These Idoltrous still not aware that Islam was spread by proof and evidence, in the case of those who listened to the message and responded to it. We sympathise with you for your ignorance & will wait for you to break the shackles your so called GURUS have on you. .
RE:IDOLTROUS Bazaar intensifying,,,,
by Sincere Citizen on Mar 12, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink
Calm down no one is blaming anyone, people are just tired of all these killings and hatred and so called "Iam the superior" attitude.
RE:RE:IDOLTROUS Bazaar intensifying,,,,
by The Brain on Mar 12, 2008 04:03 PM Permalink
well... JGN, why don't you put the versees before this verse and after this verse.. why are you just quoting out of context things.
RE:IDOLTROUS Bazaar intensifying,,,,
by The Brain on Mar 12, 2008 04:01 PM Permalink
hey frelancer, just watch and read what they are typing, it is a real fun to see some idotic comment on this forum.. just don't reply and read and have a good laugh on the day dreamer.
RE:IDOLTROUS Bazaar intensifying,,,,
by Sincere Citizen on Mar 12, 2008 04:06 PM Permalink
Why dont you google kaba on the net and read the wiki information on it. In fact you will get lots of links.
Are you denying that kabah contained idols of dieties ? Are you denying that the prophet destroyed those idols ? Are you denying that the prophet did not kiss the stone ? Are you denying there is no stone in kaba ?
Eve was created from Satan's tail. Since there was no sterilized operation theatre, the surgery was conducted in the open. God removed one of Adam's rib and kept it on a leaf. He went to the nearby river to wash his hands and asked Gabriel to take care of the rib. The poor fellow winked his eyes for a moment. The Satan who was standing nearby invisibly ran away with the rib. Gabriel also ran after him but Satan plunged into the hell hole. Gabriel caught hold of Satan's tail and cut that off. He then de-skinned the tail and kept in the leaf where god has kept Adam's rib to escape from the God's wrath. The unsuspecting God created Eve out of the de-skinned tail of Satan!!!!!!!!
RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by The Brain on Mar 12, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
few rediff scholars are discussing about Mecca... what comment can i put on this...
one belive that we worship mecca and other belive that there was shiv ling in it... great idology and great thinker.... no need for me to argue on this where the day dreamer are thinking about shiv ling in mecca and bla bla bla...
RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by Sincere Citizen on Mar 12, 2008 04:07 PM Permalink
If you disagree with what we say go to the wiki site and change the info. but you have to convince them that your version is the truth.
RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by Sincere Citizen on Mar 12, 2008 03:39 PM Permalink
It was originally a temple containing idols of many dieties including some Hindu dieties and planetary gods like shani etc.
That stone is supposedly a shiv linga which the prophet of islam tried to break but that resulted in terrible consequences and hence ended up worshipping it.
RE:RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by on Mar 12, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
Oh!!!really?????Om namah Siva h...har har mahadev.Thats why Lord Shiva is god of all sub gods,all living/non living beings.....
RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by Sincere Citizen on Mar 12, 2008 03:45 PM Permalink
Yes the prophet also believed that kissing and worshipping that stone gave him miraculous powers.Even today people pray to that stone but are not allowed to touch it.
RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by on Mar 12, 2008 03:48 PM Permalink
Sadly the followers of Mohammed never knew it is actually Lord Shiva's symbol.So sad.
RE:RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by on Mar 12, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink
I tell u my story- i was an athesist during my visit to Kedarnath 10 yrs back-I just went to enjoy nature with my family.When I looked at the Linga of Kedarnath,a natural formation, I felt i touch it-Believe it or not, i touched the linga with my right hand and the pain(created by horse travel in climbing from gaurikund) in it vanished.The other hand remained painful.I realised what spiritual power can do after that-I believe in Almighty.i request u to visit Kedarnath,since u have cleared my confusion on the Black stone in Mecca.
RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by on Mar 12, 2008 04:05 PM Permalink
@JGN, My belief about Almighty wont seize to exist even if I die.No need to believe atheist theory.
RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 04:18 PM Permalink
Pl don't "seize" Almighty!!!!!!!!! The correct word is "cease" . There is a vast difference in the meaning of both words. I have no quarrel with the blievers but confine that to your house or the place/s of worship. Don't bring religion and god/gods on to the streets.
RE:What is the Black stone in Mecca?
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
Pl read the book "The Secret" to understand the reason for that effect. It has nothing to do with any "god" That was the power of your mind!!!!!!
RE:Lesson to Pakistan : Never support terrorism against others
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 03:38 PM Permalink
Dear friend, all religions are hoaxes created by vested interests to befool the gullible. It is high time we all got rid of the religious dogmas.
RE:Lesson to Pakistan : Never support terrorism against others
by Sincere Citizen on Mar 12, 2008 03:42 PM Permalink
No that sounds illogical, there were good intentions behind creating all these stuff and there is good stuff in all of them. To throw away all that because we cant filter out the unwanted is sheer wastage. I would take the good things from them and throw out the rest, thats how humanity progresses. Even scientists work that way.
Though I am an atheist, I would like to mention here the ancient Indian belief for the information of the followers of semitc religions who are ignorant of the same.
The ancient sages of our country believed that the Universe originated from a single primal principle called "SAT" and in whatever form we worship, the same ultimately reaches the said prmial principle (SAT). The hindus (rather the natives of India) therefore do not have any hesitation in worshipping "Allah" or "Jesus Christ" as it is just another form of worship for them.
Moreover, the Indian gods are not jealous like the West Asian gods (As per the belief of muslims, there is no god but allah and as per Christains "thou shall not have any other god" )!! Can anybody believe that even the gods are jealous????
RE:Ancient Indian belief
by Sincere Citizen on Mar 12, 2008 03:30 PM Permalink
Most religions/faiths originated to fight against ignorance, hatred, discrimination, slavery and other such evils existing at that time in that region. As usual they were later misused by the followers to get power,wealth etc and any act done for selfish ends was justified under name of the faith. This happens even today, we have a new faith called "Secularism" which is misused for power politics.
RE:Ancient Indian belief
by Palani on Mar 12, 2008 03:33 PM Permalink
Allah is one and unique There is no might no power except with Him. Then who He has to feel jealous with?
RE:Ancient Indian belief
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
Eve was created from Satan's tail. While "God" was conducting the surgery, he hands got soiled with blood. He went to the nearby river to wash his hands and asked Gabriel to take care of the rib. The poor fellow winked his eyes for a moment. The Satan then ran away with the rib. Gabriel also ran after him but Satan plunged into the hell hole. Gabriel caught hold of Satan's tail and cut that off. He then de-skinned the tail and kept in the leaf where god has kept Adam's rib. The unsuspecting God created Eve out of the de-skinned tail of Satan!!!!!!!!
RE:Ancient Indian belief
by Sincere Citizen on Mar 12, 2008 03:35 PM Permalink
If there is only one god whats the difference between Allah and Eeshwar or parmatmaa, or ganesha....
RE:Ancient Indian belief
by on Mar 12, 2008 03:37 PM Permalink
pala, u have ur own belief-Why bother about us?Are u unsure about ur belief?Then why asking us to belive u or preach ur belief?
There are many countries on planet earth, each having different kind of rulers and rules & regulations. Similarly there could be many parts to heaven/hell. There are more than 2000 religions the world over each having their own god/gods. The gods and/or their accredited agents may be waiting at the entrance of heaven/hell (some sort of no-man's land) to catch hold of the "souls" and push them into heaven/hell as per their rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The all power and most merciful creator wants a "messenger" to convey his wishes to his creations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why he could not have revealed what ever he wants to convey to mere mortals like the "Sun light" ???????????
The Hindu gods can understand only "Sanskrit", the Muslim god (or Allah) can understand only "Arabic", the Christian god (or the holy trinity) can understand only "Latin" A Simple humanbeing like me can understand half-a-dozen languages. Our former PM, the late Shri. PVN Rao was fluent in almost a dozen languages!!!!!!!!What a pity! The All powerful "creator" can understand just one lanugage!!!!
RE:I sympathize with the gods
by The Brain on Mar 12, 2008 03:46 PM Permalink
That is your misconception..... God understand any language and he far greater than you and Late PM Mr. PVN RAO.
RE:I sympathize with the gods
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 03:49 PM Permalink
Then why are you praying in Arabic? Are you an Arabi? You belong to the Indian sub-continent.
RE:RE:I sympathize with the gods
by JGN on Mar 12, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
Let us call him for a debate and find out howmany languages he can speak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
