if we could change the word 'deal' to 'development' the possibility will become 100% from present 30% try it ! it is free advise from AN 'ADVISOR 'getting no payments from the Govt Of India as a scholar for an exploration which had great national and global importance getting dissipated in market due to innocence and out of compulsion to help the nation
This will not signal the end of the Nuclear deal - the deal will be signed.
This will however signal the beginning of the end of the Left. From 59 MPs, if elections are held today, they will be hard-pressed to even one-third. Then a year from now, they will lose both Kerala and West Bengal.
It might be the end of Prakash Karat- the man who prevented Jyothi Basu to became the first Left PM!
RE:What the End is All About
by vinnie n on Jun 26, 2008 09:01 AM
you are wrong. traitor bangalis will vote commie for $2 rice and cheap bus and train ticket. it seems they happy with these given my cmp/cpi for last 40 years. why the hell these bonga go to other states for jobs.
i wud rather welcome a n-bomb on my land than this n-deal. MMS is an example economics being misused to create more poors. Now when that bubble is about to burst, they want to prolong this injustice by opting this deal so to keep the rich richer and maintain the divide. The bad part is that they are pretending this stupid greedy n-deal to a national need. The worse part their conscience is dead and it is not safe to let them continue in power. They may sell off to usa in someother way. Slaves Slaves Slaves of dangerous american govt. If this n-deal is passed please stop giving holiday on the aug 15th.
RE:no deal..please
by JB on Jun 26, 2008 08:44 AM
You want a n-bomb ! to do what, how it's going to solve our ever growing energy crisis and keep ourself pacing with developing world..hum. Anyway for your kind info, India already has N-bombs. Now we need energy to drive our Industries and development.
What illogical things on this earth are u talking about slaves, stopping 15th August holiday ?? Do some due-diligence .
RE:no deal..please
by All Right on Jun 26, 2008 08:43 AM
That's mere BJP propaganda. The BJP was willing to sign an agreement even on worse terms. This is the best terms India can get. Even the Chinese had to agree on a similar deal, but with worse terms.
The Manmohan Singh government took advantage of a beleaguered Bush Administration - who in all fronts had been a disaster. The Bush Administration desperate for a singular success gave us the best terms - terms which are considered a sellout of US interests in their own country.
If we have to control inflation and power crisis, then this agreement is crucial.
RE:no deal..please
by All Right on Jun 26, 2008 11:47 AM
My clone:
Calm down.... if these are the best terms India can get, then I don't suppose US should be knocking anxiously on India's doors wondering whether the deal is going to go through...
Beleaguered Bush administration my foot.... it is a beleaguered UPA governement, as the whole world is seeing....
If we have to control inflation, proper economic measures need to be in place.. If we need to overcome power crisis, we need to plan well in advance... If you and Congress is planning to solve the power shortage being faced TODAY, this deal obviously is not the answer..
RE:no deal..please
by Manoj K on Jun 26, 2008 09:35 AM
Good you want n-bomb on your land.BTW what is your land and where it is? I believe you are referring to WB , hence it is not a bad idea to have n-bomb on ur land so that communist island can be wiped out. US will be very happy to do that.
Atlast i see some hope for india. They r putting country before their political careers. Well for Commies(Chinese spies)... what to tell of them, let them burn in hell....l
RE:Atlast they r putting country before their politics
by Abhi Bhat on Jun 26, 2008 08:46 AM
deshdrohi is your full name desi. you might have dollars in bank and want them to increase in value as dollar value will increase after this deal. For once stop being a slave and think of poor people back in here. Greedy people like you should be given a free tour inside the slums the villages in real bharat. Then you might know what sch-ii-t you have been doing all your enslaved life. Some people like you are burden of bharat. A living curse of a country.
RE:Atlast they r putting country before their politics
by All Right on Jun 26, 2008 08:55 AM
Yes the Left opposed TVs as elitist. It took them 30 years to appreciate TVs educational potential that their Kerala government today acknowledges.
They opposed economic liberalization - that today made India an economic power.
They sided with China in 1962.
And this is the short list.
As for the BJP - they wanted to send Indian troops to Iraq & Afghanistan to be cannon fodder for the US. The NDA allies put a stop to their intention.
It was BJP that coined India Shining - forgetting that there are still alot of poor who need alleviation - which can be brought about by only more growth
They opposed Pokhran II - that gave us the respect as a major military power.
RE:Atlast they r putting country before their politics
by Lakshmanan on Jun 26, 2008 09:16 AM
Marxist even opposed computer!!!!!!!!!!. They are here to oppose each and every developments.
"they have lot of apprehensions and we should also give them the space" U people in congress done away with the system of coming before the people with the good and bad of any deal that involves the largest national interest. In such a situation th left of this country is playing a desired role.
RE:Congress leader Veerappa Moily
by All Right on Jun 26, 2008 08:16 AM
The Left and BJP oppose a major deal not in national interest but on the fear it will hurt Muslim sentimentS
RE:Congress leader Veerappa Moily
by Serious on Jun 26, 2008 08:26 AM
The Left is always playing a dragging role. They shouted slogans against computerization of the Railway and other industries in 1980s, do you remember that? They even opposed introduction of tractors for cultivation! These boneless chicken oppose everything that is some way related to US, irrespective of our national interest.
The question is whether India will be a stooge or remain independent. If it signs the deal, it will become a stooge to the United States, if it doesnt it will remain independent. Note: The question is NOT whether we are a stooge to China via the Left. If India signs the nuclear deal, all we can do is flaunt this new found strategic importance, courtesy Big Brother United States, to China. Is this necessary or even desirable? It is akin to selling out your soul for material/hollow progress. Arent we doing well enough right now? Better than what we were 10 years ago. Manmohan Singh-ji, it is not all about numbers and economics. We need to stand tall, not bend over. Put the numbers aside and look into your heart. Do you want our future generations to NOT live with self respect? We should not become another Pakistan!
RE:what is the question
by A Sriv on Jun 26, 2008 08:25 AM
You gotyour facts wrong Arjun. There are so many countries in the nuclear club. Friendly countries like Russia cannot help us without this agreement. This deal is good for india, stop seeing this from US /india picture. And let me ask you what has anti US stand for last 50 yrs got us...nothing. China has a nuclear deal with us...is it a US stooge?
RE:what is the question
by desi on Jun 26, 2008 08:11 AM
If india doesnt sign this deal... this growth will not be there, cause of higher cost of fuel and engery. A starving person will think of surviving not self respect... if not will end up dying( in chinese hand)
RE:what is the question
by Prakash Asrani on Jun 26, 2008 08:28 AM
Dear Arjun, You would rather make India follow Red line and in fact become stooge of China. Right?
RE:what is the question
by JB on Jun 26, 2008 08:13 AM
Yes, we are doing better than stone-age, but that's not just sufficient to keep up with today's demanding pace. In order to stand tall (making us independent) we need to invest and do a lot of R&D for a very long time. And how come signing nuke-deal relates us becoming another Pak ?
RE:what is the question
by All Right on Jun 26, 2008 08:22 AM
That's mere BJP propaganda. The BJP was willing to sign an agreement even on worse terms. This is the best terms India can get. Even the Chinese had to agree on a similar deal, but with worse terms.
The Manmohan Singh government took advantage of a beleaguered Bush Administration - who in all fronts had been a disaster. The Bush Administration desperate for a singular success gave us the best terms - terms which are considered a sellout of US interests in their own country.
If we have to control inflation and power crisis, then this agreement is crucial.
I have a feeling that MMS/Sonia know that Indian economy is in dire straits because Indian banks have hundreds of billions of subprime loans hidden in their balance sheet. The banks were forced to buy this loan from American companies by Sonia/MMS/Montek Singh Ahluwalia, the world bank fellow.
Sensing that things are going to get worse from here on, MMS is creating a constitutional crisis and wants to bail himself out. The responsibilty of fall in economy than can be passed on to the party which comes to power or even communists that they did not support the nuclear deal.
Otherwise, why would MMS change his position after saying that 'nulcear deal is not the end of the world' just a few weeks back. Now he wants it any cost?
RE:Speculation- why MMS/Sonia would like the government to fall
by Sameer on Jun 26, 2008 07:56 AM
The word is that MMS has already resigned and Sonia is looking for puppet no. 2.
RE:Speculation- why MMS/Sonia would like the government to fall
by All Right on Jun 26, 2008 08:23 AM
Whose word? Yours? Don't think all are imbecile as you are
RE:Speculation- why MMS/Sonia would like the government to fall
by JB on Jun 26, 2008 08:15 AM
This can be explained by "Everything is fair in Indian politics & politicians can do/say anything for it ".
RE:wow
by All Right on Jun 26, 2008 08:28 AM
Puppet? He has proved himself no puppet by standing up to the Left, even if it meant that his government fall.
Manmohan Singh is no puppet. He went on taking hard steps while liberalizing the economy attracting similiar criticisms like being a US stooge. He catapulted India an economic power. Not like Yashwant Sinha - rolling back policy initiatives.
Not like Advani who was made to strip of his presidentship of the BJP. Advani then had to put on his khaki knickers and prostrate himself to his RSS masters. Once he did that, the RSS permitted him as a PM candidate
