RE:just like USA is behind most of the terrorist attacks
by jahesh khan on Jul 12, 2008 07:36 PM Permalink
absolutely correct. I dont how these educated people still believe in incidents like sept 11, kargil , parliament attack, modi attack etc. Are these believers in these dont have brains?
RE:just like USA is behind most of the terrorist attacks
by Vivek Harry on Jul 12, 2008 07:43 PM Permalink
such a thought process is the direct result of thinking that God has chosen only us for paradise while all the others are going to hell, if you have such low opinion of others, then you are bound to believe in such conspiracy theories
RE:just like USA is behind most of the terrorist attacks
by nuke on Jul 12, 2008 07:47 PM Permalink
dont say that without getting into inner details of these theories...there is no scientific explanation to events of 9/11..the problem is that people are scared to even think that their govt could harm them in any way...and 9/11 conspiracy aint like alien stuff...CIA is involved
RE:just like USA is behind most of the terrorist attacks
by Raj Reddy on Jul 12, 2008 08:01 PM Permalink
Arey Nuke aur Jahesh Khan, you are out of your brains. Due to people like you, who put their heads in places no sun shines Jehadis are successful in what they do.
Were you sleeping when A#$fart Bin Laden was crapping his mouth that his lads (loundas) did a great job flying planes into twin towers.
You jackasses keep the f'up and go back to reading those ridiculous web sites written by your 3rd class fail mullahs.
After partition more then Pakistan India beared the csualities in terms of wars ignited by Pak military regimes under blessing of US and UK. Now after Kabul attack our policy makers should rethink their strategies,sometimes I feel Shivasena is correct regarding the stand it takes against Pakistan.As long Pak is under its military dictatorships India will suffer.The best solution is to take an aggressive posture,wipe out military rulers Of Pak,dismantle its military,bring and hang Musharraf the culprit of Kargil and make Pakistan an Indian state,definitely Pak citizens will have a peaceful life under Indian rule and they will prosper without their military rulers and military under indian constitution.Kashmir problem will also come to an end.All the peace loving citizens who wants permanent peace in this region should support this theory of eliminating Pak army,definitely our military strenght and its capablities are higher,it can wipe pak army with in a day or two,will Sonia madam and MMS ji will have a thought about this ?
RE:Pak regimes should be wiped out
by Vivek Harry on Jul 12, 2008 07:31 PM Permalink
ha ha, destroying Pak millitary will not destroy talibani mentality
RE:Pak regimes should be wiped out
by Habeebur Rahman on Jul 12, 2008 07:36 PM Permalink
Its Pak military regimes spreading Talibani mentality,taliban was created by their dictator Ziaul Haq
RE:Pak regimes should be wiped out
by Vivek Harry on Jul 12, 2008 07:38 PM Permalink
the talibani mentality created Pakistan, then came Zia, then came talibani terrorists
RE:Pak regimes should be wiped out
by Habeebur Rahman on Jul 12, 2008 07:52 PM Permalink
It was jansangh and muslimleague mentality created pakistan,please revise history,talibans were created after Soviet era
RE:Pak regimes should be wiped out
by Vivek Harry on Jul 12, 2008 08:01 PM Permalink
this is the talibani mentality in action, only the name changes, whether it is Al-Qaida or Jaish-e-Muhammad or Lashkar-e-toiba or SIMI, all are different faces of the same mentality
how stupid is that?, every kid can understand this pakis involve in all the terrorist activities, why do we need an officer to come up and talk about that.
Where were you all this days?, where you with this spineless politicians,Too late my dear officer , i cant believe your structure works very slow.
RE:paki's
by IndianMuslim on Jul 12, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
some office is required to tell this to Pakistan. Who will tell to media, so that Pak can hear and our dirty politicians can hear.
There needs a stringent policy to eliminte this terror threat in india, the mafia who where aware of the movement of comandos in orrisa which has caused severe casulalities in the form of exp commandos. the terror has caused us a huge head ache, in times INDIA acts more cautiously with neighbouring countries as said by dalai lama, we refused to send troops to srilanka when they sought support(once we send when rajiv was PM), no troops to afganistan when sought by US. securities who prevented the attack on parliament is quite pleasing. There are some instants which we need to look after safe gaurding our interest in long run, when retiered pak army admitted that there was a military secret which was let out to them in 1965 war against INDIA, which was denied by our army officials giving clear explanation, when Bush stated that india consumes more food which caused food crisis is put down by us giving explanation in a way that per human consumption of an indian is very less compared per human consumption of an american. Every thing is going fine, and it needs to, inspite of the government in power in center, companies from abroad look only for the stability not the perso who head, as last two presidents of US clinton and bush have visited india in thier venture in power, obama pledges to do the same, the potential and recognition of us is quite clear. As long as this Ugly pak is kept out of picture r given bifiting reply(not having adverse effect)vR on our way.
What's use in stating a known fact in sub-continent on official level ? What measures country can take should take no point in giving mere statments.Study what other strong countries do ACT.
Can you guys let me know what will these Indian spineless politicians do even if it is a clear cut known fact that pakistan was behind or incited every terrorist attack.....At the most a verbal warning of dire consequences. We all know even if ISI claims to have been a part of all acts of terrorism what do these dumb politicians people in power plan to do. Lets accept it we do not have the guts to attack those terrorist camps like Israelis, most of Indians are happy in there safety nest and will never have the ball to stand up and agree upon taking action against pakistan cause they fear this will jeopradize India's safety and create war like situation (read their own life and lifestyle), in short most of us dont care about the other innocents and Army personnel dying in so called disturbed areas. Only time Indians are concerned is when there are blast in their cities. First take care of terrorists like Yasin Malik, Bitta karate and other separatists roaming freely in the country and then talk about ISI and pakistan....and if you dont have the ball live with it....Pakistan wont change its time we do....Jai Hind.
At least this should be good news that Mr. Narayanan is talking about 'payback in the same coin'. Never heard statement like this from the government before. Talk talk has been going on bexause our dhotiwala politicos are too rustic and spineless to act aggressively. The British policy on subduing the NWFP tribes (Pathans, baluchis etc) was 'First give them a resounding slap and then show enough kindness'. That worked.
Everybody in the world knows that Dawood is in Pak. If pakistan can give shelter to Dawood openly, their intention is clear!! We have to attack them soooooner.
RE:Pak
by jahesh khan on Jul 12, 2008 07:38 PM Permalink
Are u sure? u know his address? if so why cant u go and meet him. Sorry attack him if u know very well where he is located. Such a pathetic utopian u r
In my opinion the only way to tackle with this terrorism is by educating muslims.....The main causes of terrorism is lack of education, poverty, boredom, hatred against the development of non-muslim nations and many more...The first thing they should be taught is to take off the difference of muslim and non-muslim..they should treat everyone equally then only can Islam prevails in the world else very soon we might see the world banning that religion...
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by jahesh khan on Jul 12, 2008 07:21 PM Permalink
ok . Do we indians or democrates have the right to tell about equality in india? Is the equality established in india right now? Only acheivers can talk about such thing. I dont think there is equality practising in india. So we dont have teh right to talk about equality of islam. bcos ISLAM IS EQUALITY to mankind. It will always remain like that. thats the truth.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 12, 2008 07:27 PM Permalink
Jahesh, yes equality as per Islam is to have different punishment to muslim and non muslim for same offence, Zazia Tax from non muslim citizen, less comensation to non muslims etc etc
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by jahesh khan on Jul 12, 2008 08:02 PM Permalink
are non-muslims forced to give zakath to islamic state in islam? no never. ZAKATH was 100% only taken frm muslims. jazia was only to non-muslims as part of nation. let me ask u one thing. R u not paying tax for india? it is same as like that,non muslims has to give tax. and muslims has to give compulsory ZAKATH which will come in every part of a muslim's income-incomes like gold, in farming, in salary , in their land .muslims have to pay zakath from all of their wealth but .non-muslims does not need to pay zakath compulsory. they were only have to pay fixed small amount as tax. so tell me who has to pay more in an islamic state.a muslim or a nonmuslim?of course a muslim needs to pay. since it is a nation as a citizen a non muslim has to pay taxes.but not zakath.Are u crying for this small amount of tax?dont compare these taxes with that our indian govt impose on us. also for that tax(jizia) complete protectiion is guaranteed for their life and wealth and each muslims r ready to die to protect non-muslims.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Rajiv on Jul 12, 2008 08:33 PM Permalink
You mean each muslim is ready to die to protect non-muslim?? lols.... let me ask u something ru drunk rite now??
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Rajiv on Jul 12, 2008 08:34 PM Permalink
You mean each muslim is ready to die to protect non-muslim?? lols.... let me ask u something ru drunk rite now??
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by jahesh khan on Jul 13, 2008 12:44 AM Permalink
yes in an islamic state they will do that. can u pls tell me how many hindus are ready to do like that in an hindu nation or RAM RAJY. R u teaching me islam now? if u know all these things u should not ask these questions bcos its the law
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by Rajiv on Jul 12, 2008 08:33 PM Permalink
You mean each muslim is ready to die to protect non-muslim?? lols.... let me ask u something ru drunk rite now??
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Vivek Harry on Jul 12, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
where is equality established in Islam, even at the time of the prophet, the Quraish were supposed to be superior to the other Arab tribes, where was equality, do not talk rubbish
RE:RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by jahesh khan on Jul 12, 2008 07:48 PM Permalink
DID U KNOW about MADINA PERIOD? DID u know about sahifa? u told about quraish. where is quraish lived? MECCA rite? What the 2 eras of prophet mohd? ans: MAKKAH era and MADINA Era. MADINA Era is the islamic nation era. See wat happened when prophet came to madina? was teh peace established inside madina or not? 100 years 2 main tribes were fighting each other? WAR was going on there. He stopped such a situation by making proper treaty in peaceful and justice manner. first read man read that is waht GOD told to mankind IQRA bismi rabik.... READ IN THE NAME OF UR GOD..
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by Rajiv on Jul 12, 2008 08:39 PM Permalink
There is nothing what quran has brought to this world...everything is copied from Jewish scripture and that is why some of the muslims actually many of the muslims wanna kill Jews..so that they become the owners of that scripture...in modern day we can simply term it as Plagiarism
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by jahesh khan on Jul 13, 2008 12:41 AM Permalink
HAVE U READ QURAN AND OLD TESTMENTS? BOTH U CAN SEE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AS ANT AND ELEPHANT. R THEY BOTH EQUAL? ITS NOT COPIES. JEWS RELIGION IS ISLAM. WHAT JESUS TAUGHT WAS ISLAM. RELIGION OF ADAM WAS ISLAM. SO ALL R ONE.SINCE EVERY THING CAME FRM ONE GOD OF MANDKIND IT WILL BE SAME. HUMAN BEINGS ARE THE ONE WHO MANIPULATES IT. First if u can read TOWARDS UNDERSTANDING ISLAM go and read it.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Sultan on Jul 12, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
Your statement gives the answer, you are telling during the time of prohphet, yes that time islam did not came to the power. but due to the beaty of Islam brotherhood and equality in all human biengs Islam spread, and became the fastest religion in the world, but you see your religion is very old, still you have many problems, you are educatiing by seeing us.
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by Rajiv on Jul 12, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
yeah atleast India is on the track of equality....If that were not the case how can a Muslim attain the most respectable position? How can an italian be given the post of the biggest party's leader position?? How can a muslim star become adorable and get to such star status?? How can a muslim lead the game which Indians are die had fans of??Agree that we might not be perfect but atleast we are on the track of becoming perfect....Can you give me any islamic nation where a non-muslim is leader??
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by jahesh khan on Jul 12, 2008 08:06 PM Permalink
is that u mean equality? wat do u mean islamic nation?
what is the crime, economic, social laws in islamic state? wat is the constitution of islamic nation? IT is quran man. constitution will be made based on quran. best example now only u can see it in IRAN. Does any of the nonmuslim agree on quran . if so they can be a part of it.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Rajiv on Jul 12, 2008 08:28 PM Permalink
oh finally you are supporting constitution of IRAN....so are you a shia muslim?? Did u know sunni's say Shia's are not muslims at all...Saddam Hussein killed scores of Shia muslims just because they are SHIAS..
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by waheed ali md on Jul 12, 2008 07:18 PM Permalink
you are a hindu fanatic that is why your are blaming religion, religion, does not say to kill innocents, in the same way as hinduism says, but RSS, Bajrang Dal involvement is much more in Indian politics. So why you are blaming muslims. Infact you need education on your religion book, religious wise muslims are the best. the one is doing sucide attacks is not a muslims at all, and the same applies to hindus fanatics also.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Vivek Harry on Jul 12, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
you do not know anything about your religion, then why does it prescribe death penalty for apostates, are apostates not innoecent, yours is the religion of murder
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 12, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
Waheed, you menatlity that MUSLIMS ARE BEST RELIGIONWISE is root cause of the problem.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Shanker Shetty on Jul 12, 2008 07:14 PM Permalink
you can take the horse to water but can not make it drink, can you????????
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 12, 2008 07:15 PM Permalink
Rajiv, do u know that all terrorists in 9/11 attack were highly educated and rich. I think u have not read Quran and Haidisa. First thing which Islam should stop preaching is that only Islam is true religion. Islam donot treat non -Islamist with eual right. It believes in MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD and not in UNIVERSAL Brotherhood. No amount of education, poverty elevation can taught them to believe in co existence.
When they were ruler of this country and were enjoying with all the resourses how they behaved with Indians.
See how RICH saudis , Irani and Malaysians are behaving even today
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by today on Jul 12, 2008 07:15 PM Permalink
Ajay@ but certainly they will not educate their children to treat a co-muslim as an untouchable or of a lower caste.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Vivek Harry on Jul 12, 2008 07:17 PM Permalink
they will educate their children to pronounce takfir on muslims who do not follow their sect and do the needful
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Sachidanand Shetty on Jul 12, 2008 07:10 PM Permalink
Kabeel Ahmed of Banglore was a B Tech, who made sucide attack on Glassgow Airport others who involved are Doctor's. Educated & uneducated both are same.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by today on Jul 12, 2008 07:13 PM Permalink
You are talking about muslims as if they are handful of pagans like you which DO NOT have any say on the world scenario.Muslims are the second largest majority of this world. There are many muslim countries which if decide can make large economies to kneel down. Education for every community is necessary not only muslims and above all there is no in-equality or untouchibility practiced by muslims as some faiths do until today.A muslim and a non-muslim can be equals in other aspects of life..but in religion it cannot be....and it is not at all strange other faiths do treat each other similarly.Islam has always prevailed muslims get educated or not is just a secondary question.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Rajiv on Jul 12, 2008 07:24 PM Permalink
Your statement of Muslim countries making the large economies to kneel down can actually be added to the list of jokes....This is why i say they need to be educated..many of you are like herd of sheep where one goes and the others follow but none of them actually try to know if the path they choose is right...You think that being a second largest majority in the world you could do anything but infact you can do nothing...you people are still living with the thought that every jew should be killed now how can that be justified?? How can killing other person be justified??
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by jahesh khan on Jul 12, 2008 07:17 PM Permalink
there is no need to teach islam about equality. but one pathetic conditions of we indians is that we never look eyes open. we always want to be a slave of others. cant v know that there is US(then that means ISRAEL) presence over in afganisthan. Cant they do this barbaric act? Why we are not think in that way also and about that possibility? US did the same on their own people on sept 11. if they can do it on their own people why not others. have a search on youtube regarding sept 11 hands of US or on google it in this matter Remember US is the only nation who put atom bomb in the world. right now as some says not even one muslim nation did like that. Tell me then who is the real terrorists in the world.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by Ajay on Jul 12, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
what do muslims get by being so religious? Koran just asks everyone to fear from allah. And people read it again and again..to end up believing things which are not real. probably they were 500 - 1000 years back. But certainly not now.
However, i know that muslims wont understand this...because there brain is cut too along with...
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by jahesh khan on Jul 12, 2008 07:41 PM Permalink
no. Quran first says to love Allah(GOD) and that makes to love the whole mankind AND esbtablishes peace in world. Read quran first. ISLAM IS THE COMPLETE WAY OF LIFE. IT GIVES COMPLETE SOLUTIONS FOR ALL MANKIND.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by bharath kumar vijayakumar on Jul 12, 2008 07:48 PM Permalink
Why not ask the ppl who take to holywar?? are they not muslims... if they do not believe in quran... how will ppl from other religion ???
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by jahesh khan on Jul 13, 2008 12:30 AM Permalink
wat is the meaning of jihad? JIHAD means struggle to establish justice and truth. for example,if a nation is invaded and injustice is applied on them and whatever struggles the muslims doing in the name of god that is wat one of the jihad. This is what muslims did against in early days of freedom fighters of indian muslims did. they did with that spirit. u can see that for 100 years muslims in kerala fought against portuguese invasion with their wealth and life.thousands of muslims died fighting for india in the name of GOD or ISLAM. Try to learn about these things wat historians have to tell about these. All these were one type of jihad. Highest level of JIHAD is STRUGGLE or Fight on himself in his life. then second most JIHAD is to TELL THE TRUTH AGAINST A BAD,ARRAGONT RULER.
RE:Only way to tackle with terrorism...
by bharath kumar vijayakumar on Jul 12, 2008 07:38 PM Permalink
@jahesh.... Man ... we are not talking about equality lets say... but the attack is clearly from Taliban who are in Pakistan... this is very clear... it could b the US like u say... but even then y not pakistan actually accept that taliban are still in north westrn pakistan ... infact some of the bombblast in Pak is also from these talibans..
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by jahesh khan on Jul 13, 2008 12:35 AM Permalink
DID TALIBAN SAY THAT? THEY DENIED IT, RITE?IF ALL OTHER ATTACKS THEY CAN ACCEPT MEANS Y NOT THIS. WHOM THEY R AFRAID OF? INDIA? THAT WIL B A BIG JOKE U KNOW. IF THEY CAN STILL FIGHT VTH US AND NO FEAR TO THEM, Y THEY NEED TO DENY THIS MAN. ANOTHER THING FIRST U LEARN ABT PAK AND AFGANISTHAN GEOGRAPHICAL NATURE.
