Any war or bloodletting is bad. We are all born equal as human beings then why divide ourselves as taliban or pakistan and fight? It is better to live in peace and prosperity and enjoying life.
RE:war is useless
by raju on Jan 16, 2008 04:12 PM Permalink
Now what are you trying to say.,. that their is no differnce between pakistani/al-queda/Taliban ?
RE:war is useless
by Anand Shukla on Jan 16, 2008 04:31 PM Permalink
hey get rid of this pak,pakiz & pakistan issue. It's happening in pakistan ,So our media going to be full coverage of it , why they are not showing you that how much our army goan to be killed by Naxalide. My father is working in chattisgarh, lot's of my friend from chattisgarh did you how many indian TROOPs were killed in just 3months (>200).
But no media going to be cover it. B.coz we are not going to see it...
I know when the salman khan was release by his all cases, the whole day every channel gave him as full conversation with the public. But did you know on the same day 70 (YES 70) troops were killed in chattisgargh Bijapur district. But i wouldn't see any media coverage.
COVERAGE is th big think they do as a head line..
So Brthrs plz get to know what is going in our own color.
They are hearting by other country(it's ohk made by them), But we ..........JUST THINK............
if you want the naxalite menace away from jhrkhand then the govt should apoint KPS gill for the operation for 6 months he will wipe out the intire menace.. KPS gill also proposed himself to be given the land of Veerapan and said his forces will camp just outside the forests and smike veerapan out.. if he was there veerapan wud've een killed 15 yrs back.. Not my words. i am reading out from TRIBUNE..
RE:taliban
by animesh wadhera on Jan 16, 2008 04:14 PM Permalink
All those people who are congratulating Taliban must understand that a Pakistan led by General is still safe for India then a distorted Pakistan with Taliban having hold. As this will disrupt Indian economy and all of us will be under much larger threat of Terrorist activities than we are now.
naxalites have been able to do similar things in india's jharkhand. why our govt cannot take action to crush the rising power of naxalites. they will wait till they come marching to delhi. brutal indian history shows we keep sleeping till the problem is ready to eat us.
RE:also in india
by Shahana Mirza on Jan 16, 2008 04:06 PM Permalink
Rightly said, and that's the reason whay RSS goons are basking freely after openly killing innocents...
RE:also in india
by Shahana Mirza on Jan 16, 2008 04:23 PM Permalink
Every one is fully under the influence and confused. Viay's comment was not against Muslims it was against Naxalites. Broaden your mind, there are many more terrorists also in the world.
RE:also in india
by Gautam Sinha on Jan 16, 2008 06:40 PM Permalink
When people say RSS , they mean Sangh parivaar which also mean the Bajrang Dal and VHP. what these people did in Orissa has tarnished the image if Hinduism. Goons are there definitely and patriots are there but they are DIFFERENT
RE:also in india
by Prem Prakash on Jan 16, 2008 04:16 PM Permalink
I agree with you. But there is difference. In India army is never used for this type of things. Only kargil was case where our land was captured by outsider and that too was evacuated by army. I am sure you never heared about our army ran away case in any situation but occasionally we heared about Pakistani army ran away cases.
Book shines light on Pakistan military's '£10bn empire'
· Business interests range from cement to cornflakes · Little transparency into officer-led conglomerates
Declan Walsh in Islamabad Thursday May 31, 2007 The Guardian
The Pakistani military's private business empire could be worth as much as £10bn, according to a ground-breaking study. Retired and serving officers run secretive industrial conglomerates, manufacture everything from cement to cornflakes, and own 12m acres [4.8m hectares] of public land, says Dr Ayesha Siddiqa, author of Military Inc: Inside Pakistan's Military Economy.
The book tackles a previously taboo subject - the range and depth of the military's business interests - considered a major factor in the ambitions of the generals who have ruled Pakistan for more than half of its 60-year history. "It feeds directly into the military's political power; it's an expression of their personal and organisation strength," said Ms Siddiqa, a former director of research at the Pakistan navy.
RE:the army of looters !
by Sanjeev Sharma on Jan 16, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
Five giant conglomerates, known as "welfare foundations", run thousands of businesses, ranging from street corner petrol pumps to sprawling industrial plants. The main street of any Pakistani town bears testament to their economic power, with military-owned bakeries, banks, insurance companies and universities, usually fronted by civilian employees. Ms Siddiqa estimates that the military controls one-third of all heavy manufacturing and up to 7% of private assets.
Profits are supposed to be pumped back into schools, hospitals and other welfare facilities - the military claims it has 9 million beneficiaries - but there is little transparency. "There is little evidence that pensioners are benefiting from these welfare facilities," she said.
Of the 96 businesses run by the four largest foundations, only nine file public accounts. The generals spurn demands by parliament to account for public monies they spend.
RE:the army of looters !
by Sanjeev Sharma on Jan 16, 2008 03:57 PM Permalink
The military's penetration into society has accelerated under President Pervez Musharraf, who has also parachuted 1,200 officers into key positions in public organisations such as universities and training colleges. The military boasts that it can run such organisations better than incompetent and corrupt civilians.
In a 2004 speech to open a new industry owned by the Fauji ("Soldier") Foundation, General Musharraf boasted of "exceptional" military-owned banks, cement and fertiliser plants. "Why is anyone jealous if the retired military officers or the civilians with them are doing a good job contributing to the economy?" he said.
But Ms Siddiqa says the military businesses thrive, thanks to invisible state subsidies in the form of free land, the use of military assets, and loans to bail them out when they run into trouble. "There are gross inefficiencies and the military is mired in crony capitalism. The primary purpose of a trained military is war fighting. They are not designed for the corporate sector."
Her £10bn estimate of military wealth is a "rough figure", she says, split between £6bn in land and private military assets.
RE:the army of looters !
by Sanjeev Sharma on Jan 16, 2008 03:57 PM Permalink
"Military Inc." comes at a sensitive time for Gen Musharraf, who is struggling to rebuild his popularity after the botched dismissal of the chief justice, Muhammad Iftikhar Chaudhry, in March. The move sparked nationwide demonstrations that have snowballed into a powerful protest movement. The furore has offered an insight into the raw power wielded by the generals. This week, Justice Chaudhry told the supreme court how military intelligence chiefs spent hours trying to pressure him to quit on March 9, before placing him under effective house arrest.
Ms Siddiqa fears her book, which names names and pours cold water on boastful claims, may step on some powerful toes. "Over the past three years a lot of my friends have advised me not to publish this book. They think I have suicidal tendencies."
But Talat Hussain, a retired general and political analyst, said Ms Siddiqa was a "courageous" researcher. "This area has always been considered a sacred cow in our society," he said.
RE:the army of looters !
by Sanjeev Sharma on Jan 16, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
The book will be launched in Islamabad today. The main military spokesman, Major General Waheed Arshad, said he had not yet obtained a copy. "Let me read it and then I'll get back to you," he said.
Backstory
The 650,000-strong military has been at the heart of power since Pakistan was carved from northern India in 1947. Generals seized power in 1958 and have ruled intermittently since. The main intelligence service, the ISI, has consistently meddled in politics. Three-quarters of all army recruits come from Punjab, reflecting a similar imbalance in the country's power structures. The army's reputation for professionalism stretches back to colonial days, but has been eroded by business-related corruption allegations and three wars with India, including the loss of its eastern half, with the independence of Bangladesh in 1971.
RE:Attack
by Sanjeev Sharma on Jan 16, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
yep, us indians must always be ready to be killed by our brothers the Taliban. here is another Gandhian for you.
It doesnt matter who wrest control over whom.. Whatever it is.. everyone knows, its pure militancy which dictates Pakistan. Parents all over the world want their kids to be trained in some educatve system or the other but in Pakistan..a kid is automatically preached militancy or a la JEHAD.
before our own wagha border candle loonies start clamouring for 1. 'helping' pakistan. 2. shouting from top of their lungs that porkland is a victim of terrorism too, just like us. 3. start collecting money to provide medical assistance to current and future jehadis.
AND, before manmohan singh loses sleep because his fatherland is enjoying the sweet fruits of ROP.
