it is the first joke of 2008. within next 7 days TN Old man Karunanidhi who is supporting LTTE and vaikko will threaten support to UPA govt. and madam sonia will pull PM MMS's ears and he will retract from this saying that" mein ne aisa tho nahin kaha tha".MOre than any one else sonia knows the result of supporting srilanka. so let us take this as one of the jokes which our PM usually says. the earlier one was challenging karat to with draw support which he had to lump after his madam pulled him up. it is right. letthe Government clear the inside India from external terrorists and internal terrorism supporters and then get in to the neighbour's business. see the trouble bangladesh is creating now after India got into th etangle. we are now harbouring millions of bangladeshis half of them are terrorists. during 1971 war BUrma closed their border and ordered its army to shoot any one crossing the border from bangladesh. so no refugees to Burma. indians are basically fools who take others burden in to our shoulders. there are over a million refugees from Srilanka settled in tamilnadu and parts of KErala whose main business is drug trafficking to make money for LTTE> during last year several srilankan tamils were caught with crores worth of drugs in trivandrum and cochin airports. the problem is that of srilanka. jiye ya mare unka marji hai. hum ko kya. yeh sochna hai. humsn right sctivists will oppose me, but wait till some refugee blasts a cracker below the bum of any one activ
RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by SP on Jan 12, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
Rightly said. The blakmail-politics of DMK and Karunanidhi are affecting the functioning of the Central Govt and definitely they will oppose of the move to fight against LTTE.
RE:RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jan 12, 2008 12:50 PM Permalink
We can generalise Politicians as a whole a third grade lot of people not just the DMK. The Congress and the BJp does not behave any different.
RE:RE:RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by truthandonlytruth on Jan 12, 2008 12:55 PM Permalink
But the context is "Who supports the terrorist Org called LTTE in India?"
RE:RE:RE:RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jan 12, 2008 01:01 PM Permalink
There are black sheep everywhere. Next it is vote bank politics of Political organisaion to support LTTE to garner votes just as the BJP uses its hindutva politics to garner Hindu votes.Each and every move of such political party needs to be condemned...
RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by truthandonlytruth on Jan 12, 2008 12:38 PM Permalink
Thats the problem of hardcore Tamil chavunists. When it comes to India or Tamil, a chavunistic Tamil will always go towards Tamil and Ditch the mother Nation, India. Good that rest of India knows the utter stupidity and emotional uncontrol of those Chavunistic Tamils. Born in India, brought up in India, eat Indian food and support a terrorist organization just because they speak Tamil. Too much non-sense!!
RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jan 12, 2008 12:48 PM Permalink
Speaking bad about LTTE is OK but do not genearlise it on all Tamilians please. Also , before sayig anything remember the Dravidians are the original inhabitants of Sindhustan anly later did the Aryans arrived and conquered this part of Sindhu river.
RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by truthandonlytruth on Jan 12, 2008 12:53 PM Permalink
Your theory is even now disputed... For that matter what are you doing in this place? Go back to the middle east and the tribal places from where Islam came to India.
RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jan 12, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
I wil go to the midlle east if you go to the other side of Sindhu river..HA HA HA...
RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by Madurai Sundaresan SatheeshKumar on Jan 12, 2008 01:46 PM Permalink
HI friends Even Max Mueller who has propounded the theory of aryan race, has changed his stance later on, and said its not correct.
Its only our political leaders who have taken that to mobilize votes for their favour.
Its definitely unequal opportunity on part of brahmins (75 years ago)to occupy posts in goverment when others did not get that chance, but that does not mean that aryan theory has any basis.This has even been proved by genetic studies too.
So, better we dont waste time in this concept, and regarding the LTTE, if any one here in tamilnadu speaks against them, they will be categorized as anti tamil etc.
Thats why not many people (including journalists) speak openly on this.
The journalists in TN are not like their counterparts in north. They just take down notes of what the political leaders dictates to them!
RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:47 PM Permalink
It's the same with hardcors Tamil chauvinists in Sri Lanka. It's Tamil this Tamil that never SRI LANKAN. That does not endear them them to other Sri Lankans. It's this refusal to INTEGRATE.
RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by Arrow on Jan 12, 2008 12:52 PM Permalink
I see? recently in punjab i read former PM indira gandhi's assasins were declared martyrs, whats your opinion about that? they too eat indian food, but support killers of the country's ex PM!!
RE:india supporting srilsnka against LTTE
by Anup Nair on Jan 12, 2008 01:07 PM Permalink
Eat Indian food?? Born in India????you seem to speak as if Indian govt has leased the part of its land to Tamils and others.....Go get a life .Eat atamil food, and brought up in Tamilnadu.We have a political association with Indian union annd not a rental agreement with Indian landlord.
Nothing can be solved by violence.It is for both the parties srilankan Government also the LTTE.India as a nighbour can ininitiate a peace talks and not support either Srilankan Govt or LTTE.Only political solution to be possible to resolve this not by Army.Gun for Gun never ends try to solve by negotiations.
In this forum many people are writing against the tamils in Srilanka. How many of us have read the history of Srilanka written by popular historians? The facts are different, but many people knew very less about the actual facts about the ethnic tamils in srilanks. Homeland issue could have been sorted out by early governments of Srilanka which was neglected in the 1970s which had entered a crisis like this.
LTTE was formed for the cause of Tamil liberation to liberate Tamil people from the attrocities of Srilankan Govt and people. But the way it has emerged now is very different with a different ideology and the image of LTTE is spoiled now on the vision of foriegn nations. The way LTTE is following is incorrect and could not be accepted, but thereis no other way left for them in this situation. Just for this reason, the way they are following cannot be justified.
The tamils who are suffering should be taken care by the international community.
Don't have ill-feelings for Tamils.
Know the facts and talk.
When somebody talk about northindia and southindia divide, please know about the Ancient indian history and know where the northindians have come from?
Talk for unity because India is a country with diverse background, many languages, cultures and so as Indians we shouldn't have have hard feelings for any of our fellow indians.
Let us accept and help each other afterall the average age of an Indian is 65 years.....
RE:KNOW THE HISTORY AND TALK by Anil
by truthandonlytruth on Jan 12, 2008 12:34 PM Permalink
Dude!! Problem of Ethnic tamils is very genuine and the Machinations of LTTE is way too draconian and devilish. Do not try to lure people to turn into a devil's advocate like you. First get the person who washed your brain. Grow up and try to think.
RE:RE:KNOW THE HISTORY AND TALK by Anil
by Arrow on Jan 12, 2008 12:44 PM Permalink
@truth: I am not a LTTE sympathizer or supporter. Just to give an idea of why LTTE originate in the first place, was in 1983 / 1984 several tamil families were brutally killed by sinhala groups, women raped & not even children were spared. You can read the history and whole world knows it. After that tamils started taking arms in protection & naturally the group grew bigger and bigger.
That doesnt justify what all LTTE does today, but former heads of lanka, jayawardane, bandaranayake, chandrika to rajapakse - all are reasons for LTTE's current status. They have to blame themselves. Fact is bullet is no solution to this problem. They have to sit down and talk.
RE:KNOW THE HISTORY AND TALK by Anil
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:43 PM Permalink
No. The LTTE came into being because of Tamil politicians who did not want to lose their positions of power which they had during British rule. They started this mantra of "discrimination" and "separation" just before independence was granted because they knew that the oppressed Sinhala majority would be given equal rights and with 1 vote for 1 person the Sinhalese would outnumber the Tamil minority who were running an apartheid state controlling the government.
RE:KNOW THE HISTORY AND TALK by Anil
by Arrow on Jan 12, 2008 12:38 PM Permalink
My friend. LTTE earned the wrath of indian people by killing rajiv. That is one of their biggest blunders. Rajiv allegedly backstabbed prabhakaran, that is the reason given by B Raman and another critic in articles written. In one of the articles published i even read one of the army commanders in sri lanka (IPKF days) were asked to kill prabhakaran during a white flag meet. The officer being honest, didnt take the orders. India distanced itself from SL after the IPKF debacle and rajiv's assasination.
SL is being armed by Israel & US, so they have an upper hand and LTTE is now under very high pressure and lost several of their leaders in combat or airstrikes by the SL AForce.
Strange is the fact that UN doesnt care a damn about the conflict & US doesnt see any gain by intervening in this part, there is no oil in SL .. so they are okay with bloodshed.
Overall India should seize the opportunity and get in and play like a big country in the region . Foreign policy is failing here..
RE:RE:KNOW THE HISTORY AND TALK by Anil
by SINGH on Jan 12, 2008 12:57 PM Permalink
I am with you where you say that India should play bigger role....but i fail to understand that if Tamil people and politicians and India have so much sympathy for the LTTE then why can't we call them back and let them live here in India....ultimately what they are fighting for is peace of land where they can live and India being their mother country is the place where they should be invited....what are they going to get fighting.....when we have alternate options...please correct me if i am wrong
RE:KNOW THE HISTORY AND TALK by Anil
by Samosachat on Jan 12, 2008 08:19 PM Permalink
India can not do anything until LTTE drops their arms. It is true SL GOVT is very cunning and keeps breaking the promises. Both parties(SL GOVT and LTTE) have taken extreme measures. What is happening in SL is they are making it Buddhist republic as opposed to secular which is even more draconic than an islamic republic according to the colonel Athule. Imagine folks if India becomes a hindu republic and starts being draconic how will other monorities feel? Luckily India is secular . Of course the pseudo seculars go to other extreme. If any one party goes to extreme then there is problem. Ultimately we all should learn to live as one race the human race.
RE:KNOW THE HISTORY AND TALK by Anil
by SINGH on Jan 12, 2008 12:53 PM Permalink
what do you mean by this "When somebody talk about northindia and southindia divide, please know about the Ancient indian history and know where the northindians have come from? "
I have gone through whole length of history and never found any mention of this aryan dravidian theory....this was a story cooked up by britishers to keep Indian people diveided so thay can rule....but it is sad to see that people still don't realise it...
Killing of a human being- whether it is done by either Srilanka Govt or LTTE - is wrong. India can support Sri Lankan Govt in fighting LTTE terrorism, but at the same time, India can request Sri Lankan Govt to solve the issue and stop attrocities against a particular community. But it is doubtful, whether the Central Government can take any move against LTTE, because Govt itself is a puppet in the hands of M Karunanidhi, CM of TN who is openly supporting LTTE. It seems that the present statement of the Government is an attempt to divert the attention of the media and people.
RE:Govt should move cautiously
by ganesh subramanian on Jan 12, 2008 12:37 PM Permalink
India should not interfere with the internal affairs of srilanka. India can work as mediator between LTTE and Srilankan govt.Other wise we will face problem with these LTTE.As such we are having problems with Pakistanis militants.poor innocent citizens are affected. why should we put oil in fire Let us keep quite let congress not poke their nose in the affairs of srilanka.We lost a good person Mr Rajiv Gandi excellent personality and great patriot.
A socalled sinhala here mouth loads of lie after read textbooks of 'India States'. But...
Even the term Sinhala is not of sinhalese. Sinhala was tamil kingdom like chera, chola, pandiya or pallava. Ramayan/other Indian text have clear reference to it. The basic sinhala cult is from polynesia and after occuping the south-western coastline, these aliens later occupied the inland southern and central territory along with its 'identity' and people.
Futhur driving inside, the Certal Ellala Tamil kingdom was occupied by socalled sinhalese. The western was during British and the eastern region is under process of occupation by illegal sinhala settlements.
The sinhala in recent past not only harassed Tamils but Malayalis (mapillas, nairs etc) and Telugus (kamavas/naidus) whom were in laks came in during wartime or for business. Even today the significant Telugus/Malayalis enjoy freedom in eelam forces controlled territories whereas in sinhala controlled more or less have been 'converted' as sinhalas. Those whom objected this conversion had to leave the island fearing harassments. These are ground realities and can be witnessed by anyone.
Now tell will any people allow occupation to this extent and Tami Homeland has been occupied by alien cult here in Elangai.
RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:34 PM Permalink
Ilankai is the homeland of the Sinhalese people. Ilakai is just a Tamilised version of "Lanka" which the Sinhalese call their homeland alongside Simhala, Hela Diva, Lak Diva.
TAMIL NADU is the homeland of the Tamil people. And if there are any aliens in Sri Lanka, it would be the Tamils and certainly not the Sinhalese.
Punjab is the homeland of the Punjabis Gujarat is the homeland of the Gujaratis Maharashtra is the homeland of the Marathis Orissa is the homeland of the Oriyas Karnataka is the homeland of the Kannadigas Andhra PRadesh is the homeland of the Telugus Kerala is the homeland of the Malayalis
RE:RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by first last on Jan 12, 2008 12:23 PM Permalink
well said... sinhalas trying to confuse indian regarding tamils
RE:RE:RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
Speaking the truth does not mean one is "trying to confuse."
RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
I have no idea where you have learnt your history my friend. The funniest bit that I read in your presentation was "basic sinhala cult is from polynesia" - you're saying from the Pacific ocean, from Hawaii, Tahiti, Tonga? What a hilarious claim. The Sinhalese are an Indic people and their culture and religion is Indic. They claim their ancestry from India and not from Polynesia. The language they speak is an Indo-Aryan language and is a sister language of Hindi, Gujarati, Bengali, Marathi, Punjabi and Dhivehi (spoken in the Maldives).
As for the Telugus, a portion of Sinhalese have Telugu ancestry. The names Nayaka and Sekara are of Telugu origin. eg Sinhalese names Rajanayake, Rajasekara, Dissanayake are of Telugu origin (ancient Kalinga). So your claim of harassment against them is ludicrous. Even the last Sinhalese kingdom in Kandy was lead by a king with Telugu origins.
Tamils are found in the north of Sri Lanka because they are the ones that invaded Sri Lanka from Tamil Nadu - their homeland. The Sinhalese never bowed down to the Tamils and fought for their land and country. The Ramayana calls Sri Lanka the "SIMHALA" - there is no Tamil reference to the island.
RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by Sivaprasad on Jan 12, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
Your argument makes eminent sense.The chanuvinist sinhalese should be stopped from murdering Tamils.
India is going the wrong way after emboldened by the recent successes of SL army. But it will not take long for LTTE to come back and strike with force.
RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:41 PM Permalink
It's teh chauvinist Tamils who should be stopped from murdering the Sinhalese. Some sections of the Tamils want to wipe out the Sinhalese - ie genocide. The homeland of the Sinhalese is Sri Lanka and if Tamils do not enjoy living there then they should move back to Tamil Nadu.
RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by its me on Jan 12, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
///Ramayan/other Indian text have clear reference to it/// so you belive Ramayan is true tell this to your karunanidi and tell him not to distroy ramsetu. Tamil lost indian sympathy due to this.
RE:RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by Freedom on Jan 12, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
If someone dont believe Ramayan have to believe the PERIOD OF RAMAYAN DOCUMENTED by Indian scholars.
No tamil cares what karuna bluffs but also dont have other proper option to karuna.
RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by hari ray on Jan 12, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
The land of mahatma Gandhi will never support the ideology of yours.
RE:Sinhala illegal conquest over Tamil Homeland. How?
by truthandonlytruth on Jan 12, 2008 12:23 PM Permalink
all said and done but LTTE is a terrorist organization, extremely inhuman, untrustworthy and extremely intransigent.
RE:madrasis should be kicked out to srilanka..............!!!!
by Dravidian on Jan 12, 2008 12:19 PM Permalink
and north Indians should be kicked out to Pakistan.
RE:as tams are LTTEs...madrasis should support LTTE
by swaroop tagore on Jan 12, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
all tamils support ltte.no doubt they are our brethren
RE:as tams are LTTEs...madrasis should support LTTE
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:13 PM Permalink
All Tamils do not support the LTTE. That is a racist claim. For example, Sri Lanka's finest foreign minister and anti-LTTE was a Tamil gentleman - Lakshman Kadirgamar. He was assasinated by the LTTE because he did not support their terrorism. Neelan Thiruchelvam, Sarojigi Yogeswaran were other Tamil leaders who were assasinated by the LTTE because they did not support the LTTE. The LTTE has killed more democratically elected Tamil leaders in Sri Lanka than anyone else.
I don't understand why India needs to support or against some country. Why can't they be neutral to everyone. Outside asia only India has some respect and they are always treated as a seperate continent (Sub-continent), better india should try to maintain it and should avoid supporting / being against any country. I have always India spending most of his money on Army :-(.
