8. The broader issue of corruption: No one is a saint in politics, including Congress and BJP. I had posted a message in one of the previous forums that said that if any party wants to participate in politics, they have to follow the age old congress model of politics. No one can survive unless they follow the congress way of doing politics. Unfortunately, BJP has not only doing politics in the age old congress way, they have almost refined and perfected the technology even further! Intelligent and enlightened voters are watching this and they may vote against BJP this time around. BJP sold election tickets for large sums of money to a number of people.
RE:Karnataka-IV
by naresh kumar kaushik on Apr 30, 2008 06:30 PM Permalink
RE:Karnataka-Part I by naresh kumar kaushik on Apr 30, 2008 06:29 PM Swami Nanu Non Kanadiganalla, Nun uru Bellary, mate Mysoru, bengaluruuu,tumkuru,tipturu,shimoga, gadaga,chitraduga, etyadi uru vyaparakoskara sututiruthini. Arth Ayta !!!
6. The anger of Brahmins against in many parts of the state is another variable that may work against BJP. Overall, BJP has given just 7 tickets to chaste Brahmins this time. There is a silent anger brewing against BJP for not awarding enough number of tickets to this community. This is true in the districts of Shimoga and Uttara Kannada where Brahmins have been voting BJP all these years. Though Brahmins can't decide the results per se, a negative swing of around 15% may work against BJP.
7. The controversial mining lobby seems to be another important factor that may play a negative role in the parts of Bellary and Chitradurga. It is a well-known fact that the last coalition govt feel on its back just because of mining and real estate. Though BJP may now cry that Gowdas denied Yeddi the CM seat, the real problem was cause by the Reddy clan of Bellary. When J.Reddy alleged that Kumarasway took 150 crore bribe from mining lobby, the govt started crumbling immediately on the same day. Even during the power handing over controversy, the issue of mining and urban development ministries appeared very significantly. Now, people know why both of them wanted the same ministry (during the 20 months rule of coalition, almost 25,000 acres of land was allotted to non-agricultural purposes. All these issues and incidents are still in the memory enlightened voters across the vast land of Karnataka and they may vote against both BJP and JDS (they may skip voting or vote Congress as an alte
RE:India must have reservations till 85% of all registered marriages are inter-caste.
by P ASHOK on Apr 30, 2008 06:29 PM Permalink
r u creating castism ?
RE:India must have reservations till 85% of all registered marriages are inter-caste.
by Sandeep Mukherjee on Apr 30, 2008 10:16 PM Permalink
maybe u will suggest next that govt shud hv a quota to ensure that a person's wife is f**ked on 27% days of the year by OBCs, 15% days by SCs etc? just to ensure "social justice" and ewual opportunity for "historically deprived" sections?
5. With the entry of war horse Bangarappa, the situation is becoming dramatic in the home constituency of Yeddi. Here is a piquant situation. Of the voting population here (around 1,60,000), you can see the following caste domination:
Lingayats and Veershaivas: 55,000 Idigas: 30,000 Kurubas (Siddaramaiah's caste): 20,000 Lamabanis: 15,000 OBCs and Dalits: 30,000 Muslims, Christians and others: 10,000
Congress and JDS are not contesting and together they have about 25,000 votes.
Now, assuming that (with a voter turnout of 80%)
25% of Idigas, 75% of Veershaivas, 25% of Kurubas and Lambanis vote for Yeddi, the total votes come to around- 65,000
Likewise, Bangarappa may get 75% of Idigas, 25% of Veershaivas, 75% of Kurubas and Lambanis vote for Yeddi, the total votes come to around- almost close to 65,000
It seems that there is a tough fight for Shikaripur seat. If all Non BJP votes solidify as one, there may be a cliffhanger of a result!
It is quite interesting to read forum postings here. Non-Kannadigas and Non-state citizens of India do not understand the caste equations and ground realities of Karnataka. Here are my observations, who is a resident of Karnataka and who has voted more than 25 times (including all types of elections):
1. It seems that BJP is in a terrible hurry to grab power in Karnataka. It also seems that they do not have the kind of edge they had late last and early part of this year.
2. The perceived sympathy wave seems for the BJP to be on the wane and is fast disappearing.
3. The general perception that a particular caste of community will vote for a particular party (read Lingayat and BJP argument). In any given situations, no caste will vote en masse for a particular party. There will be at least 20-25% of vote that may go against a party.
4. This is special time for Karavali or coastal belt of Karnataka. Modi could draw just 5000 people in places like Udupi, Puttur and Karkala which have been the fort like bases for BJP. Rebels like Shakuntala Shetty has damaged the prospects of BJP to a large extent. In a district like Uttara Kannada, BJP has given tickets to many people who are new to the party. In fact, the local MP Ananta Hedge has already started working against his own party!
RE:Karnataka-Part I
by naresh kumar kaushik on Apr 30, 2008 06:29 PM Permalink
Swami Nanu Non Kanadiganalla, Nun uru Bellary, mate Mysoru, bengaluruuu,tumkuru,tipturu,shimoga, gadaga,chitraduga, etyadi uru vyaparakoskara sututiruthini. Arth Ayta !!!
RE:Gujarat Prediction
by P ASHOK on Apr 30, 2008 04:18 PM Permalink
that is only a trick nothing else,they are panicikng the people ,but people thiking what happen when power given to congress, when Krishna was CM ,there was huge malpractice and most corruption was held during this period
I had predicted too many times with sucess rate of unbelivable 100 percent as I am fallowing Politics right from Emergency. 1.I had Predicted The elections of 2004 BJP will loose - It happened 2. During that time I had even predicted Chandra babu Naidu shall loose-It did happen 3.I predicted A coalition govt by Cong and JDS during the same time- It happened 4.I predicted BJP Govt's in Both Uttaranchal & Himachal- It happened 5.I predicted a historic Win for Narendra Modi In Gujrath - It occured 6.NOW MY PREDICTION FOR THE KARNATAKA ELECTIONS ARE "BJP GOVT SHALL BE FORMED WITH A NARROW THIN MAJORITY" IN KARNATAKA. So please ask my basis of calculations, queries are welcomed by non fanatical/non-affliated persons,for individual references please mail me at kaushikkaushik99@rediff.com
RE:Hey Listen every body
by P ASHOK on Apr 30, 2008 03:55 PM Permalink
Kaushik ji aap ye Bhavishyya sachha ho jaye aur Karnataka me BJP full majority aake 5 years term pura kare aur ek baar aur in bechaini congress waalonko ,opposition baitaneki mouka mill naa chaiye , jai gurudev
Your observations on CNN/IBN are correct. They have an idiot called Yogendra Yadav who is paid to come up with doctored surveys and lies. Last Gujarat elections, CNN/IBN predicted BJP losing in Saurashtra and Mahatma Modiji meeting his waterloo. We know what happened.
Deccan Herald is anti BJP/anti Hindu.
Lingayats, Reddys and Brahmins will ensure the victory of BJP. Gowda and muslim votes will be split between JD-S and Congress. A section of educated Gowdas will vote BJP.
Interpret CNN/IBN's survey to mean that BJP will crush congress and get 150 seats.
RE:CNN IBN and NDTV - Circulator of Doctored News. They lied in Gujarat too
by Dinesh Hegde on Apr 30, 2008 02:47 PM Permalink
Sirdesai is and Yogendra are ready to wash at Soniya's house. their is no truth in this survery. CNN-IBN should be banned with immediate effect
RE:CNN IBN and NDTV - Circulator of Doctored News. They lied in Gujarat too
by jagar singh on Apr 30, 2008 05:04 PM Permalink
except gujarat,their surveyshave been nearer reality.
I wish ONE PARTY gets the majority to rule the state, instead of being forced to form a coalition govt. Look at what is going on in the Centre. Congress is being held to ransom by the anti-national communists.
RE:Which ever party it is, there should be no coalition govt
by Jitendra Kumar on Apr 30, 2008 02:26 PM Permalink
You are absolutely right sir. I wish the same.
RE:Which ever party it is, there should be no coalition govt
by bullseye on Apr 30, 2008 03:04 PM Permalink
COFFEE DAY KRISHNA -CONGRESS IRON ORE MINES KUMARASWAMY-JANADA DAL RSS YEDIYURUPPA -BJP IT LOOKS 33% UNDECIDED VOTERS WOULD CHOOSE BJP AS THEY FIND IT IS RELATIVELY LESS CORRUPT COMPARED TO CONGRESS AND JANATA DAL.BJP WILL GAIN MORE SEATS BUT GRIM CHANCES TO GET MAJORITY
RE:Which ever party it is, there should be no coalition govt
by Suresh Babu on Apr 30, 2008 03:20 PM Permalink
BJP is the most corrupt party in our country - how this Pramod Mahajan earned rupees 5000 crores.
RE:RE:Which ever party it is, there should be no coalition govt
by shiva ns on Apr 30, 2008 03:27 PM Permalink
Open your eyes dude.... Didnt Rajiv, Indira or Narasimha rao made money.... minimum 4 digit crores they have... Why only pointing at BJP. Its obvious fact that those who are in power make money. If you go by that Congress was in power for almost 4 decades compared to BJP which is by max 7-8 years. So who made lot of money. Who looted the country most? So dont point only at BJP. Be fair to everyone.
RE:Which ever party it is, there should be no coalition govt
by jagar singh on Apr 30, 2008 05:06 PM Permalink
bjp did bigger deals.congressmen are pigmies in that.
RE:RE:Which ever party it is, there should be no coalition govt
by P ASHOK on Apr 30, 2008 04:01 PM Permalink
and how ur leader Drum shing,Khorge,and great ex major irrigation minister H.K.patil how they got huge money,u r only watching BJP is corrupt why u should not look into JDS people
The power enhances the arrogance of BJP and they behave like having a clear mandate even while in a coalition of 16 parties. They all are loudmouth, away from ground realities and through an through communal. During their 6 year rule, they brought the country to the brink of collapse, wanted to be seen talking big On TV, spilt country vertically, damaged the secualr fabric of the country and make so big coruuption that a brother killed brother for the money. Let us kick BJP out of power everywhere
RE:BJP should be thrown out of Power Everywhere
by TIGER MAN on Apr 30, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
YOUR CONGRESS LOT MIGHT BE ABLE TO KICK BJP OUT OF KASHMIR OR CHRISTIAN HELD STATES OF NORTH EAST .BUT YOUR CONGRESS WILL BE WIPED OUT FROM THE WHOLE OF NORTH AND CENTRAL INDIA AND WILL ALSO LOOSE THEIR GRIP IN THE SOUTH .CONGRESS HAVE ROBBED INDIA FOR OVER 50 YEARS....PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUNG OF CONGRESS .
