congrat men the way people of both religion are acuusing each other does defintaely make one feel the future of this beautifulcountry.
yes im a muslim never went by the Holy Quran but have heard many things written in it.
never excepted
but now i feel different i am told it is written in the Quran that the entire world will be against ISlam which i see happening.
please i is really sad seeing these things happen.
not all muslim and hindus are bad
we all have friend sfrom both religion whether u guys accept this or no.
i dont want to prove anything all i want is to say that plz stop this hatred for religions while doing this we are spreading hatred in the hearts of the next generation.
plz atleast try.
it hurts me. too seeing all this but insted of us fighting gainst ourselves why dont we fight for a good future.
lets not forget we are Indians before anything else.
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by Sonu Madhavan on Oct 29, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
Mr.sajit what are u talking u taught us Hindus haaaa u were nomodic people just wondering from here and tehre and looting and killing at that time Hindus had there own well established towns and trade system, and in science we are far better at that time our sage had even studied the space they have speical knowledge about plant and comots they had calculated the distance of various planets and in the field of medicines they can even perform surgey and u are saying that stupid nomidac people who even can grow crops made us civilised haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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by prakash on Oct 26, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
read the history, read how Islam spread in India, it will be a eye opner. the US hangs SADAmM, riots in India attacking Hindus, the danes draw mohammed cartoon, hindus get killedin India...1930, the british remove the Kahlif and remove khilafat, the muslims go and kill 30000 hindus in kerala..change your mindset , hindu had enough of it for last 1000 years, now hindus are started behaing like muslims, the results in Gujarat well known, reform yourself and STOP it,if u continue jihad ,,,the war continues..this time hindus fight...
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by JGN on Oct 26, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
Mr.Shajit Ali, the hindus have come out of 19th century. Will the muslims come out of the 7th century arabia? That is the crucial question that needs to be answered. Not mudslinging at each other.
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by Danial Fakih on Oct 28, 2007 12:54 PM Permalink
What a joke JGN...U hv not yet come out of millions yrs old myths like ramayana & maha bharat...Stupid update urself first..Muslim religion is 1400 yrs old only..hehehe
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by Shajit Ali on Oct 26, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
Prakash, Read history.When muslim came to India there was no Hindu or Hindi. There was a language they were writing or readind. then know the situation of people. There was no calander. Check the Indian Government Revenue department records they still follow muslim calander. What knowledge you have about history.
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by on Oct 26, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
are gadhe shajit . tu khali clender ke piche kyu para hi ..... tere madrasa me history kya nahi paraya . bedh and upnisadh were well before the born of ur spiritual leader. aryan culture and scientist are much earlier and developed than anything . zero is developed here by and hindu swami. watch ftv calender that is much suitable for ur culture and knowledge . dont mislead others. and dont express your low level of knowledge to the world .stop providing wrong and un authenticated information. read first then write .
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by prakash on Oct 26, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
i know history,hindis has nothig to do with hinduism first learn that. Hinduism abt free souls and free thought , not bind by some book or prophets..a free soul is a hindu.
ther is no calendar, LOL chk hindu calendar system google it out, there are several kinda o fhindu calendars , the one we use vikramsamvat.
it is you , who need to read the hisotry, who turned the great civilization in to war zone with the concept of dar-ul_hurb.
ther eis no islmc science, all the science muslims copied from greece and indians is called islamic science..LOL..
go look at ruins of Harappa or Mohanjadaro, read vedas, wihte their origins in unkonwtime..
as a muslim you are taught to believe before Islam your people were living like animlas and no civilizations, ever read abt great persia before muslim invasion..LOL now you know why enlightened Iranins hate Isalm..
Islam turns any civiliszation in to stone age, look afghanistan,pakistan,bangla,sudan,saudia...reform now or face war
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by Natwarlal on Oct 26, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
Ha ha ha ha Muslim calender?. Sale unpad gaware kanhike. All muslims are unpad gawar
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by on Oct 26, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
shajit,see the worlds knowledge about hinduism and also learn the the history .you are always a privileged part of india. enjoy the link also enjoy your privilege in india. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hinduism
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by Shajit Ali on Oct 26, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
Muslims came here and educated the people of India at that time. Can you tell when the Hindi came in. During muslim rule only
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by JGN on Oct 26, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
Mr.Shajit Ali, the calender followed in India is called Gregorian Calender and is the Christian era. Vikram Samwat is the oldest calender in India apart from Saka Varsha.
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by prakash on Oct 26, 2007 12:02 PM Permalink
same ALLH commanded to kill the non beliver (qufr) where ever they find, why allh haed idolators (hindus or pagans)
sati had its origins in ancient, it started in mass level when pious muslim attack hindu kingdoms kill all men adn take womens as sex slaves, no wonder your prophet had many wives and slaves, every pious muslim follwoing in the footsteps of prophet(Sunnah)
look i dont need lessons from quran o islamic hisotry from you, iam better read and educated then you anytime.
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by farhad modak on Oct 26, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
as for my knowledege deep abt Quran, quran does not tell to kill any innocent people it says that we can aonly preach him abt Islam and tell him wht its all abt
then its up to him to accept or no
we are never told nor is it written to kill them
But Yeah This not only goes to hindus but also to Muslims
If a person had commited a big crime in the holy book we can do three things 1. if we have the strength pick up the sword. this mean sjsut lieten carefully. any person picking up the sword the person whose commiting a sin will bow out of it so we r told to use the sword to scare him not to kill him
2. if u cant pick up the sword then stop him
3 if u cant do both then just in ur mind sya that this person is not good nd leave from that place
now this is what Quran says
people going against it well i dont know what to call them
all i sya try to understand the Quran dont follow it but dont remove wrong meanings abt it
Anyone who talks of history to justify violence now must not be covered by media or any Indian owned website from now on.
Enforce strict secularism so no one can use religion to ask for votes or make special policies on the basis or religion. Government authorities and politicians should neither be allowed in Iftar parties or make any policy which targets people because of religion.
Rioters and those who incite riots must be given the same status as terrorists.
Please understand the basic difference in hinduism and islam. Hindiusm is not a religion, it is a way of life (culture) of millions of people living in the land east to hindukush and west to Assam province, below Himalaya and up to sea coast deep in south. Hinduism never says you must have to accept the Shiva as you god. Even if anybody does not consider lard Shiva or Ram as his/her god, he/she does not not ceased to be a hindu. Hinduism allows a fair degree fo elasticity.Thats why hindus are seldom fanatic. The islam lacks this because of being a religion based on book. The second wrong thing with Sunni islam is that it destroys the local language and culture of the land and force them to adopt the Arabic culture. In Iran they adopted the Islam but never changed their great persian culture. Their name are still persian and their culture too. But in India the day you converts to islam, you will start behaving like an Arabic person without considering how great your language and old culture might be. It is not written in Quran to change you culture even if you chane your religion. But the taliban would not hesitate to destroy 2000 years of old Buddha idols in Afganistan.Actually when these barbaric arabic people could kill the daugher, son-in law and grand son of Muhammad in the name of Islam (Division of Shia and Sunni) they can do any thing. In Iran still they maintained their 5000 years old temples and did in Indonesia. I wonder why in India you people not consider the old
RE:Culture of the land and religion of the people
by Bhaumik on Oct 26, 2007 10:29 AM Permalink
Manu, you start well, but as you went on you showed your true color. You are full of hatred and venom, which according to even you, is not a sign of true Hindu. You are not a true Hindu, but sound like an RSS sympathizer or member of one of its killer outfits, i.e., a pseudo-Hindu.
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by deep dar on Oct 26, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
The facts themselves suggest that Muslims are fanatics, If you refuse to see this reality, you are a pseudo-human being!
RE:Culture of the land and religion of the people
by door drishti on Oct 26, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
where is venom and hatred in the message from Manu ..can u pls elaborate
RE:Culture of the land and religion of the people
by Sun on Oct 26, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
A jaundiced eye sees everything yellow. Forgive him for he knows not what he is writing!!
RE:Culture of the land and religion of the people
by Manu on Oct 26, 2007 11:17 AM Permalink
Dear Bhaumik, I am working out side the country in an organisation with people from across the globe. I have Iranian, Bangladeshi and Pakistani friends. The Iranian used to laugh on Bangladeshi and Pakistani because they consider them as a slave of Arabic culture. Some time they make fun of their name by asking them that donot you have any name in your Bangla language. Why did you borrow tha arabic names.We have Korean friend also. Irrespective of thir religion (Buddhist or Christian), their names are korean.But in our sub continent, if people change their religion, he first adopts the culture of another country, either european or arabic.It is not written in any holy book to change the culture by changing the religion. The killings of Paigambar Mohammad family after his death by Arabic people is a fact (Shia and Sunni divide) and it shows the basic culture of arabic people (Not islam). I never said that the Islam is a fantic religion or those believe in Islam are fanatic, but of couse I said that tha arabic people are mostly fanatic and their Islam is also fantic.The people trying to copy the arabic islam ends with the same fantic culture. The people from Indonesia, Malayasia, even some Bangladeshi and Pakistani are very friendly but they all respect their old culture also. The rest fanatic Bangladeshi and Pakistani are more arabic in culture than the people of saudi arabia.
Govt of India must take immediate action against Tehlaka for pouring fuel in Gujrat. When everything is calm, in Gujrat , what is the reason for Tehelaka people to again bring out the subject. They are( TEHELKA) the responsible for riot in India beceuse they pour fuel in fire and enjoy watching BURNING INDIA.
Then News paper media also responsible for riots in India. NOw instead of blaming TEHELKA for puoring fuel in riots in India Newpaper are glorify the news given by Tehelka. I am not RS,< BJP or SS person but I am pure Hindustani person.And what Modi did to save Hindu people is definatly creditable.Otherwise by now millions of Hindus would have massacared by Muslims. Godra kand is started by MUSLIMS and no one look after that, but they blame Modi only who try to protect the Hindu people Of Hindustan. The most horrible thing is that our Hindu Political Leaders( SO CALLED )only go against Hindu person for the sake of VOTE BANK.
SHAME ON THEM.( UNFORTUNATLY I CAN NOT SAY SHAME ON THEM, AS THEY DO NOT HAVE SHAME, THEY ARE SHAMLESS )
RE:TAHALKA VS MODI
by Bhaumik on Oct 26, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
But how much do you value human life? If you are a Hindu, how can you forget the value of human life?
RE:TAHALKA VS MODI
by door drishti on Oct 26, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
why don't u go to Kashmir and NE and teach them the value of human life ..better u go to Iraq or Pak-Afgan border ...may be they need ur teachings more
RE:TAHALKA VS MODI
by on Oct 26, 2007 11:37 AM Permalink
jamil, anything against muslims is bad but against hindu is good. it is the mentality of all politicians and muslims. why dont you admit your faults?
why dont you provide a link that authenticate that the fire is ignited by people in side the train? modi done a excellent job. modi is great.
RE:TAHALKA VS MODI
by on Oct 26, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
bhaumik what about the people burnt in the train? arent they human ? why you are not saying muslims to feel sorry for them and why you are not blaming them?
grow up brother . when your brother is burnt and sisters are raped ,you cant leave the criminals ,if you do so you are not a human.you are a "HIZRA"
I want totally new religion called - 'EARTH HUMANITY'. 1] OUR GOD - Centre of UNIVERSE. Has no name. 2] Prayer - Align your mind with the UNIVERSE CENTRE and forget yourself. Naturally and slowly there is transformation in you.
We have not yet explored UNIVERSE. Life having supernatural senses must be existing. When they come with certain names again GODS will have addition ! Be scientific. Need to change definations of GOD and so called RELIGION. Do not be blind followers of old PROPHETS and stop our progress
