For all those who are opposing, those who ensured that the truth is covered, those who are writing shit are basically trying to cover up their guilt of carrying Ravana's (Demon) ideology Showcasing Rama's gesture.
RE:Friends, do not hate Muslims!
by Seeker on Oct 25, 2007 03:56 PM Permalink
thaks for loving ur Mr Ashok 1. we do not protest.. the didots among us are driven to protest by their political masters just the same as the idiots among u are driven to protest when someone paints ur goddesses nude 2. as far as i know no one has attacked the woman in this country. some maulvis have been making some noise but they themselves do not have the guts to do anything. just the same as ur mahants scream when something happens to ur religion. 3. we do not demand subsidies. its ur people who want to show that they are secular. we are content to finance all our travels on our own. we are not asking for alms.. ur people are forcing us to accpet it for our votes. 4. we do not demand reservations. we want equality. i guess there is reservation for almost 50% seats in all the technical/medical education. how much of it is for muslims? we do not want reservations. we want equality and the opportunity. its ur people who want us to beg just to show their superiority. 5. family planning is against our religion. why meddle in ours when we dont point out the faults of ur religion? cant u live and let live? can u show any facts that the population growth cannot be sustained? can u say that the grain storages in india are empty becoz of the population? fact is that grains are rotting even when farmers have to commit suicide... 6. For ur Kafir is a term for very non muslim. its not derogatory. we dont refer to u in a derogatory manner as u do to us.
RE:RE:Friends, do not hate Muslims!
by Seeker on Oct 25, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
7. We are not only pointing out to gurjat riots. we want justice for all. 1984 sikhs, 1992 mumbai, 1993 bomb blasts.. every1.. why only selective justice? we want justice not appeasement. if it were possible we wud give u babar now. just tell us how. if u cant then dont be stupid and show ur ignorance. 8. what major share in what national resources? didnt get ur point on this topic. 9. this point was a joke... what do u mean by expecting non-muslims to live like muslims? we ourselves dont live like muslims forget abt forcing others. a true muslim is duty bound to move away anything from a street which causes problems to any traveller. have u seen any muslim do it? 10. ya we are muslims first. but even before that we are human beings. our religion teaches us to respect others. we want to live in harmony but idiots from both religions want us to fight for their own political ends. u want to fall in that trap and want us to fall in it too. think abt it.
RE:RE:RE:Friends, do not hate Muslims!
by sahil gohil on Oct 25, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
it right seeker all muslims r not wrong or terrorist but why all bad people or terrorist r muslims. thats true u also cannot deny that because everyone knowns that. ur community people not all but few of them r supporting them in the name of religion is that right. talking about population it is hamperring the nation because u all produce in dozen without ever thinging of the nation.that's true
RE:Friends, do not hate Muslims!
by Dhongi Sadhu on Oct 25, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
my dear Ashok love do...! how r u..? how is ur family(she) member..? i found Modi was wandering around ur home and asking ur home address..i dont know why he was searching ur house. please ring ur father and give him message to stay in home, u keep busy urself here and spread hate. jay hind
RE:Friends, do not hate Muslims!
by on Oct 25, 2007 03:49 PM Permalink
Dear friend.., although you have gracefully handpicked few aspects, the overall thought that's depicted from your message is that of hatred towards minority and believe me people like you hardly count when the country as a whole matters.., we are not as min minded as you seem to be..
RE:Friends, do not hate Muslims!
by bency gopalakrishnan on Oct 25, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
Your points are true except some. 7th point- Gujrath riot was a sin.It was done by some devils of Hindu community.It happened 4 years ago. Baber & co.lived hundreds of years ago.u cannot justify the Gujrath massacre with old Mugal ruler's things. Admit that Gujrath was a mistake and a sin.
I think u r from North India.That why u feel like these all. I am from Kerala where people are more educated.Here the most things u say about Muslims are wrong.There is good secular atmosphere here.
RE:Friends, do not hate Muslims!
by LaX Ray on Oct 25, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
Hey man... You want to pull mughal rulers now and compare? world has changed and no one can think of such comparison. Babar or be it any ruler at that age did not come to power by winning elections. So do not compare their rule with our elected representative's responsibilities.
RE:Say no to Muslims
by raj singh on Oct 25, 2007 03:51 PM Permalink
i somewhat support you, after we have been ruled for 500 years by muslims and now suddenly they have lost all the powers.
Have been reading some of the posts on this issue, and yet again the strong religious sentiments do come to the fore!!
I mean, we really do have serious religious issue which is to be sorted out but it kind of simmers withing everyone! Sentiments run strong, but thankfully our democratic structure allows us to voice some of it and get away with some of it!!
I would like everyone to lay down some fundamentals, if they love their country. I am not a Hindu/Muslim/Christian/Parsi/Jain etc, I AM A INDIAN first!!! Once that is established, everything else comes second!
Not against Muslims or Hindus, but lets put some points across which is our current world situation: 1. Dubai: Moderate muslim dominated (rather Arab dominated) country, with a cosmo flavour, but come fasting for Ramadan, NO ONE should be found eating or drinking water while the fasting period is on! Does it happen in India, I mean, people can choose what they can do! Then why say, religous sentiments are curtailed? 2. While Saudi welcome global cutting-edge executive presence in the country, but everyone knows that if they are found not conforming to the Islamic laws of the land, they could be proscecuted and like how! Left for the dead, whomsoever they are! Women of other communities are to keep a low profile, have to be covered whatever they standing in soc is? Does that happen here?
Then why do certain communities feel its is Hindu dominated and hence they do not have a voice?
RE:check out what people say
by Joy Das on Oct 25, 2007 03:53 PM Permalink
I also agree with them. They are Right. Any person who just pops up in every discussion and try to promote some site has to have multiple fathers. And, as u also agree with those people, so now the issue is settled once and for all. Better spend the time in trying to find out who your real father is...
Anyone who talks of history to justify violence now must not be covered by media or any Indian owned website from now on.
Enforce strict secularism so no one can use religion to ask for votes or make special policies on the basis or religion. Government authorities and politicians should neither be allowed in Iftar parties or make any policy which targets people because of religion.
Rioters and those who incite riots must be given the same status as terrorists.
RE:Hindu- Muslim unity is the need of the hour
by heaven on Oct 25, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
Got it...that sounds fair...lets ask the Saudi and UAE governments??!!
RE:Hindu- Muslim unity is the need of the hour
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 25, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
Why the F3k should I bother about Saudis and UAE ? I have absolutely no beef for those camel lovers....
RE:Hindu- Muslim unity is the need of the hour
by bhanu gotluru on Oct 25, 2007 03:49 PM Permalink
"no special policies on basis of relgion" -- Does it mean Uniform Civil Code? Beware, you might be characterized as a Fundamentalist for saying the above :-)
RE:Hindu- Muslim unity is the need of the hour
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 25, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
Absolutely - similar laws for all citizens of India.
RE:Hindu- Muslim unity is the need of the hour
by mohd abdurraseed on Oct 25, 2007 04:05 PM Permalink
will a dalit be allowed to enter the temple? or be a priest?
RE:Hindu- Muslim unity is the need of the hour
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 25, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
They are already entering temples. No one asks for caste certificate at the entrance of any temple as most Indians look alike. Yes - people who are filthy and dirty will not be allowed anywhere and that applies to anyone of any caste. Priests have traditionally been brahmins but now people from other castes are being trained to become priests.
kudos for govt of mahashtra for taking leaf from bengal govt for implementation of reports which benefits minorities,No doubt bengal is called garden of India for its pro people policies also mahastra govt should be strict while punishing ppeopel implicated in report ,They should immulate communist states of India who had guts to punish the guilty farmers who were opposing nandigram which would have benefitted lot of poor peaseants.Communist states like Bengal and Kerla are glowing examples for other Indian states though the govts follow strict Chinese code of conduct they are gracious ebnough to praise lesser indian states
RE:wise decision
by sameer on Oct 25, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
yeah u pseudo secular bas...tards keep on barking abt pseudosecularism till some one who is a near and dear to u dies in a terrorsit balst.. by looking at the current rate of bomb explosion it can happen soo.. then u will stop
RE:RE:wise decision
by bahmophet on Oct 25, 2007 03:49 PM Permalink
KAUSHIK BASU, BENGAL HAS LOT OF GOOD THINGS TOO. LIKE THE BENGALIS AS A RACE ARE QUITE OKAY. ONLY THEIR POLITICS REEKS.
RE:wise decision
by Kaushik Basu on Oct 25, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
buddy..i am a bengali myself :) ..and i was commenting abt the communist rule...not the ppl of bengal...this RED govt is a perfect example of how to take a state back into the dark ages.
RE:wise decision
by kesto on Oct 25, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
Pl also ask the glowing states under left rule to implement the supreme court ruling making mariage registration compulsory for all religions ( not only hindus)
RE:RE:wise decision
by bahmophet on Oct 25, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
also common civil code can be thought of? let the loonies put pressure on the cong govt to so so! instead of barking up the nuclear deal?
RE:wise decision
by vargies on Oct 25, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
What a wonderful example 'Bengal the garden of India'. we seen Flowers in the garden was crushed out by CPM gundas and CPM police in Nadigram. Teenage girls and mothers are raped and get killed for nothing and CPM gundas using guns to kill people including minorities who opposes commies plan to evacuate them from home. Begladeshi terrorist getting ration card and citisenship if they vote for CPM, later move other parts of country and bombing. People rioting for ration supply.
Kerala CPM secretory facing CBI enquiry looting state fund 425 crore, Other CPM leaders taking bribe crores from tax cheaters and publics deposit cheaters. CPM and CPI bulids hotels in govt lands in Munnar and rented for laks of rupees. Killing opposition politicians including minority community. CPM Leaders attacking christian methrans with abusive words.
What a wonderful chinies model Sahadevan! You are great man.
RE:wise decision
by bahmophet on Oct 25, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
so u have met abdul naseer madani? how is he? keeping fine with help from acchu man? or pinaryi? pro people eh? kerala and west bengal? now u have become normal sahadevan.
RE:wise decision
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 25, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
People like you Sahadevan are real nuisance - if the commies treat all religions equally - then there would be no need for BJP/Bajrang Dal etc. True secularism is needed not pseudo secularism.
RE:wise decision
by Ashok S on Oct 25, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
kudos for Sahadevan for the enlightenment!
Communist states like Bengal and Kerla are glowing examples for other Indian states to become aware that communists from these states are eating into your jobs.
Hyderabad,Bangalore and other cities are examples of how these pests have come for getting jobs.
RE:wise decision
by SP on Oct 25, 2007 03:53 PM Permalink
Yes communists governments in bengal and kerala are 'glowing". Killing poor farmers in Bengal, taking crores of rupees as bribes from criminals in kerala, CM and State Secretary doesnt even look each other even by mistake,. Mr. shut up your bloody mouth. The two worst governments are that of BEngal and Kerala. Now a days, the Kerala is compared to even Bihar. Credit goes to CPM
Have been reading some of the posts on this issue, and yet again the strong religious sentiments do come to the fore!!
I mean, we really do have serious religious issue which is to be sorted out but it kind of simmers withing everyone! Sentiments run strong, but thankfully our democratic structure allows us to voice some of it and get away with some of it!!
I would like everyone to lay down some fundamentals, if they love their country. I am not a Hindu/Muslim/Christian/Parsi/Jain etc, I AM A INDIAN first!!! Once that is established, everything else comes second!
Not against Muslims or Hindus, but lets put some points across which is our current world situation: 1. Dubai: Moderate muslim dominated (rather Arab dominated) country, with a cosmo flavour, but come fasting for Ramadan, NO ONE should be found eating or drinking water while the fasting period is on! Does it happen in India, I mean, people can choose what they can do! Then why say, religous sentiments are curtailed? 2. While Saudi welcome global cutting-edge executive presence in the country, but everyone knows that if they are found not conforming to the Islamic laws of the land, they could be proscecuted and like how! Left for the dead, whomsoever they are! Women of other communities are to keep a low profile, have to be covered whatever they standing in soc is? Does that happen here?
Then why do certain communities feel its is Hindu dominated and hence they do not have a voice?
RE:Secular man!
by Akram on Oct 25, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
the indians in those countries are expatriates and will return to their homeland in a day or other. it is only a destination in search of livelihood or luxury for many.
the denial of rights can be spoken only in our motherland and INDIA is motherland for all indians either he is a muslim,christian,hindu etc.
if you are hurt or disklike the laws or freedom provided in UAE,SAUDI dont go for jobs in that countries rather than talking rubbish and no sense arguments
RE:Secular man!
by heaven on Oct 25, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
as usual, try an 'Akram' to come out with points which are way off the target...Dear Aky baby, you have not yet got the point....
To make it clear to you sir (which will take quite some time, I can see), my point is with the subject while you have missed it completely!! I just said, why do certain communities feel they are not getting their lot while it is quite the opposite! There is no embargo on voicing ones own opinion, like you have, no one can stop you and YOU do have a voice, dont you? Thats the point! So instead of crying 'minority minority', do something worthwhile ( apart from producing kids like litter) and get your own space: I can site names of people who have made a name for themselves APJ Kalam, Shahrukh Khan, J Akhtar...I can go on and on...thats not the point; point is its those losers who are a drain on society who cry for 'equality' status, achievers do not bawl...get it dude?
RE:Secular man!
by Akram on Oct 25, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
heavan stupid,
i understand you and your points. you are just trying bring the fact that muslims should leave the term "Minority" and join the main stream. for that why you bring the case of UAE or SAUDI and asking that hindus in these places are denied certain facilities.
if an UAE citizen is born non-muslim and if he denied the fundamendal rights ,then what you tell is right OK.
YOU ARE REALLY A EDUCATED STUPID dont compare INDIA with those monarchies
RE:Secular man!
by Rash on Oct 25, 2007 03:50 PM Permalink
Why do u go over there to search for your livelyhood go to western countries they will allow you to do whatever u like instead of criticizing their systems
RE:Secular man!
by heaven on Oct 25, 2007 03:53 PM Permalink
exactly Rash....its all about freedom...and you get it here, so no need to cry anyone!! Period!!
RE:Superstious Beliefs!
by Dhongi Sadhu on Oct 25, 2007 03:33 PM Permalink
balakumaran.. pl dont abuse anybody's faith.. God can leave wherever he wish, so pl pl pls.
RE:RE:Superstious Beliefs!
by Dhongi Sadhu on Oct 25, 2007 03:36 PM Permalink
sorry balakumaran... i read lot of messages here who abuses others. please carry on..
RE:Superstious Beliefs!
by simple on Oct 25, 2007 03:33 PM Permalink
one person can marry 4 wives. can divorce a wife at will just by saying 'Talak talak talak' attack an inncoent harmless women. brothers can marry sisters. it happens only in Islam.
RE:Superstious Beliefs!
by kiran Tippur on Oct 25, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
hi boss why dont you comment on other religions and their funny believes,you are free to comment on hinduism its because we are peace loving.do these things about others they will come and chop you off.say thanks because you are living among peaceful people who worship monkeys and dogs.get
RE:Superstious Beliefs!
by Madhu Kaushik on Oct 25, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
Ok, you tell me what to worship and give me concrete evidence of why I have to worship that. What is wrong with people worshipping milestones, rat, cows, donkeys etc. Do you feel that God exists only in temples or mosques or churches? Widows being burnt is only superstition - it is a social evil. You seem to be one who belong to the clan that shows practices of one community to be poor (howver miniscule that percentage might be) for the sake of conversion.
I am not supporter or bjp or shivsena..or congress but I do believe that what happened that time was just a reaction...such reaction was needed.. muslims in our country r always agressive..when hindus show agression it becomes news.
RE:just a reaction..
by Akram on Oct 25, 2007 03:34 PM Permalink
since you are talking about reaction. Just think about this after Gujarat riots 2002.
"Reacting to the riots a blacklash was seen at UAE which is home to around a million indians and considerable no of hindus doing business and jobs. A mob attacked and burned the business establishments owned by hindus and involved in killing and burning of people. the Govt was under severe crticism from various corners for its inactiveness.
RE:just a reaction..
by Akram on Oct 25, 2007 03:43 PM Permalink
what about the domination of gujarathis in jewellery business or those marwaris. Shetty who has big business establishments in UAE.Khimji ramdass in OMAN ETC.
Dubai is cosmopolitan and with people from allw walks of life not only KERALITES.
RE:just a reaction..
by bahmophet on Oct 25, 2007 03:51 PM Permalink
the arabs dont consider indian muslims as their equal friend akram. u are called ajlaf or wretches by these blue blooded arabs. got it u converted muslim.
RE:just a reaction..
by Utkal Mohanty on Oct 25, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
It is a toatl falsehod that Hindus are not agressive. Take the Sikha carnage. Take the Mumbai riots. Take the Gujarat riots. It's the Hindus who act violently in mobs. There moght be individual mUslim terorists, but it is the Hindus who teerorse the muslims as a part of mobs, with active connivance of the giovernments in power. If India is to be a civil society this has to change. Punishing the rioteers in the last three big riots woukd be the first step in that direction.
RE:just a reaction..
by suhail alikhan on Oct 25, 2007 03:56 PM Permalink
why u are making fool of u I think all Indians are bhai bhai abay sambhal jao warna me danda kardunga subke
RE:RE:just a reaction..
by suhail alikhan on Oct 25, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
We are are right and innocent plz try to avoid listening politicians whether they are shiv sanik or congress or BjP
